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  • 20-10-2004 10:34pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 62 ✭✭


    Hi my name is John Barrett, I'm 33 years of age, married and have two children and for the best part of 20 years I have lived in the U.K. Why I'm writing this is because I have a need a desire to move home to Ireland with my family. Since my Mother moved to England in 1981, All I have ever wanted is to go home, as I got older I did come back to Ireland to see family, but always returned to England. I needed a chance to get my foot in the door but that chance never came my way, I ended up getting married in England and having two daughters. My wife suffered a mental breakdown soon after our second child was born in 2000 and haven't worked since, because I'm a full time carer.

    So as time goes on and there is still this disire to move home, I do wonder if it will ever happen. I have never felt settled in England and never felt I can move on with my life, I just want to come home and bring up my young family in Ireland.

    But as I'm not even a working man, and having to live off the state (which I don't like doing, but got no choice in the matter), I can't even own my own home, my own car, and money is not great. Just living in a tiny 2 bedroom home with no garden this is what life has to offer?

    I'm asking for help from any one who could help us move home to Ireland, I'm asking my own country to help me and my family to move back, It's no joke this matter is real and if I have to write an e-mail to any one I will have to do that, please if any one can help it will be very grateful, thank you!

    John Barrett


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,811 ✭✭✭✭billy the squid


    I will copy this to personal issues john as there maybe someone moe qualified to help you there.

    billy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,415 ✭✭✭Optikus


    Move to athlone..i was born in ireland but lived in uk nearly all my life, blah blah to cut a long story short i moved to athlone in westmeath. TBH the place has kinda grown on me.. any how pm me if u need any advice on making the move.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,316 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    The best advice I can give you, is to look up borthers/sisters/relatives/etc in Ireland. They may be able to give you some support, or tell you where you can stay.
    Also talk to your local Welfare Advice Buauru [spelling?] to see if you can collect your welfare checks in Ireland.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,415 ✭✭✭Optikus


    the_syco wrote:
    The best advice I can give you, is to look up borthers/sisters/relatives/etc in Ireland. They may be able to give you some support, or tell you where you can stay.
    Also talk to your local Welfare Advice Buauru [spelling?] to see if you can collect your welfare checks in Ireland.

    if that dont work out give me a bell.. i will try me best to help ya.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,441 ✭✭✭✭jesus_thats_gre


    Stick to the East Cost.. TRUST ME!!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,793 ✭✭✭✭Hagar


    Optikus wrote:
    Move to athlone..

    Don't do it FFS !!! No offence but I am moving out of Athlone because I have never been in such a clannish, unwelcoming place. It's a cold, mean kip. I've given it five years and I'm getting out this month. I can't wait.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 492 ✭✭climaxer


    Sorry to hear about your wife's illness - it must be very hard for you raising two kids and trying to be the main carer to them and your wife. Fair play to you.

    To find out what you may be entitled to ie. Carer's Allowance, Unemloyment benefit, etc. check this link:

    http://welfare.ie/ - this will give you a rough idea what you could be entitled to living here.

    With regards getting a council house - it is very very hard to get one. You will probably have to rent for quite a while. But if you're not working I believe you will be entitled to rent allowance. In the meantime get your name on housings lists immediately i.e. the local City Council, Respond, Focus and any other housing authorities in the area you move to.

    I live in Waterford and love living here but some people hate living here so its really a personal choice where you'd settle. As someone already mentioned maybe look up some cousins and move near them for some initial support.

    I have never lived in the UK so can't compare the quality of living, prices etc. but I think it is very expensive to live in Ireland at the moment and its getting worse. I have a fairly good income and still struggle some weeks. To give you an idea its €4.75 apx for a pint of lager, €4.50 to put your bin out every three weeks and €1.50 every other week plus you have to pay €80 yearly too, nappies are €10.15, 20 cigarettes are around €6, esb, gas and phone bills are quite high too. But the good side is I love living here and the area I live in and the school my daughter attends I'm really happy with.

    I guess the first step would be to figure out what you would be entitled to ie. social welfare benefits and see what they amount to.

    If you have any questions just ask..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,089 ✭✭✭D!ve^Bomb!


    trust me, dont come back or you'll regret it...this place is a **** hole


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 417 ✭✭MistressPandora


    There's no point in trying to put him off, if he wants to move back here deep in his heart, then fair enough.
    I mean, there's an awful lot of people who never felt comfortable here in Ireland, and who have moved to England. My brother for example, left Ireland in 1988, moved to London and never been happier. Sure, I miss him, but I'd prefer if he stayed where he was most happy.
    John, I haven't got much advice I'm sorry to say, but I wish you the best of luck for you and your family. I hope everything goes well for you. My only advice is don't raise your children in Dublin.
    Best of luck,
    Pandora


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,811 ✭✭✭✭billy the squid


    I hope you don't mind me bringingthis thread back up but John is currently on 95fm (http://live95fm.ie) telling his story on Limerick today.

    He posted im the limerick city forum, so I kind of feel a little responsible so if anyone wants to send a mail to the station with advice i would be greatful

    limericktoday@live95fm.ie

    thanks

    If you miss the programme its repeated again at midnight

    forgot to mention that there is a webstream if you want to hear the repeat tonight.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,890 ✭✭✭embee


    newband wrote:
    trust me, dont come back or you'll regret it...this place is a **** hole

    Helpful as ever, newband.

    Ireland is not a ****hole. The original poster wants to return here and has an overwhelming desire to come back, so you telling him its a hole or whatever is in no way helpful to him.

    To the original poster - you want to return to Ireland with your wife and kids and it is definitely within your power. Do you have relatives or friends in Ireland who could provide a support system while you got yourself set up?

    With regards to being a full time carer for your wife - if you do move back here, your local health authority will assess you and your means etc and you could possibly receive palliative care and respite and Carers Allowances etc as an Irish citizen. Make sure and do your research into what your entitlements are if you do come back. I worked for the North Eastern Health Board, and we used to do a lot of assessments on people in a similar position to your own.

    Also, choose wisely where you are going to come back to when you do return to Ireland. From your own point of view, where you say money is tight, I really would recommend you choose somewhere other than Dublin to live. It is just too expensive to live in the capital or anywhere near it.

    Good luck though, and I do hope that you can find a way to get back here and find that new start for you and your family.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,099 ✭✭✭✭WhiteWashMan


    maxtrax wrote:
    Hi my name is John Barrett, I'm 33 years of age, married and have two children and for the best part of 20 years I have lived in the U.K. Why I'm writing this is because I have a need a desire to move home to Ireland with my family. Since my Mother moved to England in 1981, All I have ever wanted is to go home, as I got older I did come back to Ireland to see family, but always returned to England. I needed a chance to get my foot in the door but that chance never came my way, I ended up getting married in England and having two daughters. My wife suffered a mental breakdown soon after our second child was born in 2000 and haven't worked since, because I'm a full time carer.

    So as time goes on and there is still this disire to move home, I do wonder if it will ever happen. I have never felt settled in England and never felt I can move on with my life, I just want to come home and bring up my young family in Ireland.

    But as I'm not even a working man, and having to live off the state (which I don't like doing, but got no choice in the matter), I can't even own my own home, my own car, and money is not great. Just living in a tiny 2 bedroom home with no garden this is what life has to offer?

    I'm asking for help from any one who could help us move home to Ireland, I'm asking my own country to help me and my family to move back, It's no joke this matter is real and if I have to write an e-mail to any one I will have to do that, please if any one can help it will be very grateful, thank you!

    John Barrett

    John,

    What makes you think that moving to ireland will solve your problems?

    I can understand that you are unhappy in your present situation, but i find it a little strange that someone would think of upping sticks and moving somewhere completely new to them witha family in tow.

    sure, you moved to the Uk at a young age, and have a desire, but what fuels this desire? is it just being fed up with your current circumstances, or is it really just a focus for your unhappiness in your life at the moment?

    most people emigrate with a plan in mind.
    what yours?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,305 ✭✭✭The Clown Man


    People do feel bonds with where they believe they belong you know.

    There are people who will not be moved from their homes just because it is the wise thing to do. Ask a catholic in Belfast to move down south because then all their problems will be sorted and see what type of a response you get.

    John obviously feels drawn towards where he feels his home is. It's human nature. And human nature usually tends to ignore rationale or "plans".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,811 ✭✭✭✭billy the squid


    John,

    What makes you think that moving to ireland will solve your problems?

    I can understand that you are unhappy in your present situation, but i find it a little strange that someone would think of upping sticks and moving somewhere completely new to them witha family in tow.

    sure, you moved to the Uk at a young age, and have a desire, but what fuels this desire? is it just being fed up with your current circumstances, or is it really just a focus for your unhappiness in your life at the moment?

    most people emigrate with a plan in mind.
    what yours?

    Ireland isnt exactly "something completely new" he was born and raised herefrom what I can gather. and lived in the UK, raised a family, and 20 years later he wants to come home.

    I personally annot see anything lwrong with that. People went to england to find work during the latter half of the last century it was not really something they wanted to do, I'm sure the majority of them would have prefered to work in Ireland where they were born.

    WWM i suggest you listen to the interview he gave 95fm there is more information on that than there was in his post. I havent got the ability to record it where I am but it starts at midnight and the interview is a little bit away into the program.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,099 ✭✭✭✭WhiteWashMan


    People do feel bonds with where they believe they belong you know.

    i didnt say they didnt
    There are people who will not be moved from their homes just because it is the wise thing to do. Ask a catholic in Belfast to move down south because then all their problems will be sorted and see what type of a response you get.

    nope, i dont think i argued against that either
    John obviously feels drawn towards where he feels his home is. It's human nature. And human nature usually tends to ignore rationale or "plans".

    you know, i dont think i went against that either.

    what was your point?
    Ireland isnt exactly "something completely new" he was born and raised herefrom what I can gather. and lived in the UK, raised a family, and 20 years later he wants to come home.

    sorry, i think that moving country is something completely new.
    I havent lived in australia for over 20 years. i think it would be something completely new if i were to move there right now.

    I personally annot see anything lwrong with that. People went to england to find work during the latter half of the last century it was not really something they wanted to do, I'm sure the majority of them would have prefered to work in Ireland where they were born.
    .

    i didnt say i saw anything wrong with it. in fact, i dont think i posted anywhere that he should go for it. i said i found it strange that someone would move their entire family to another country because they were unhappy in their present situation, and didnt seem to have any sort of rhyme or reason, except that he lived here 20 years ago.

    WWM i suggest you listen to the interview he gave 95fm there is more information on that than there was in his post. I havent got the ability to record it where I am but it starts at midnight and the interview is a little bit away into the program.
    .


    billy, i will go on what is posted on this thread. this is the information presented. i only posted up a few questions.
    with regards to listening to 95fm, i dont live in ireland.


    you people should learn to read better...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,811 ✭✭✭✭billy the squid


    WWM i didnt mean to upset you, I merely suggested you listen to the program because the presenter asked the questions that you asked. 95fm have a web stream so you dont have to live in the country.


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