What is emulation software??

flyinfishmonkey

I posted an other thread here but now it seems that not only can I play a game on the internet in multiplayer mode but I can't even get it to run in normal single player mode... It keeps giving me this message while trying to load the cd :-

Cannot locate the CD-ROM

CD/DVD emulation software has been detected. Please disable all CD/DVD emulation software and re-start the game

Any ideas cos its driving me mad at the minute.. It was working fine up to yesterday and the only things I have installed since are CloneCD and DVD Decrypter. Help appreciated!!

p.s. It runs music cd's fine though and data cd's/dvd's..

secret_squirrel

TBH it would have helped us if you had told us the name of the game your are talking about.

Fortunately its obvious its refering to clonecd - which is specifically used for pirating games and CD's and not a lot else afaik.

I assume you are using a legit copy of whatever game your talking about?

Handy hint - check whats last installed if you suddenly get problems you didnt have before.

flyinfishmonkey

Well tbh if you had read my thread and noticed that I said I posted another one then you would have read:

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Cannot locate the CD-ROM
(CD/DVD emulation software has been detected. Please disable all CD/DVD emulation software and re-start the game.)

I keep getting this message when trying to run Splinter Cell in multiplayer mode yet the drive starts running and then after a few seconds this comes up... Any ideas as to what's doing it guys??

Perplexed

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In this i explain that it was Splinter Cell that I was trying to run.. And no it isn't an illegal copy. I pay full price for what I buy cos PIRACY SUCKS !!!Anyway I guess I'll just have to remove CloneCD and see if that works but the reason I posted this thread was to see if someone else had this problem and solved it without having to totally remove useful software. And yes I paid for CloneCD also to use it for running games through my LAN with my kids if you must know...

Ciaran500

No need to be so aggressive over it. You pointlessly started a new thread, you should of at least provided a link to the old thread.

Do you have the newest version of clone cd? They normally fixes black list problems that you are having.

aidan_walsh

flyinfishmonkey wrote:

Well tbh if you had read my thread and noticed that I said I posted another one...

Well tbh it would have been nice if you had linked to the original thread, rather than expecting us to go looking for it...

secret_squirrel

flyinfishmonkey wrote:

And yes I paid for CloneCD also to use it for running games through my LAN with my kids if you must know...

At the risk of starting a flame war ....copying a cd so you can play across a lan is still piracy - albeit one most of us can live with.

You're welcome for my answer btw

heggie

anyway to actually help out... same prob happened me, you need to search the registry for alcohol and clonecd, remove any mention of them, then it'll work fine. If you need more help there are forums at ubisoft where this is a well documented problem.
Best of luck.

aidan_walsh

Somehow, as this appears to be an anti-piracy move, I don't think the word "problem" is approporiate...

flyinfishmonkey

Yeah yea okay. Hands up I should have posted a link to my previous thread but as for getting aggressive I didn't like the aspertions that were being cast in my direction about piracy!! Take my point?? Anyway, I have the latest version yes and I am currently putting ElbyCHK.exe in a zip file cos I think thats whats doing it. That is the application that handles the Virtual Drive that CloneCD creates. If it works I will return to confirm. Thank you.

heggie

I think it is a problem, how dare another software company tell me what software I can or cannot have on my pc for whatever reason I use it for, be it legal/illegal whatever.

flyinfishmonkey

Thanx Heggie!! That was all I was hoping to get. A friendly answer from a fellow board member but it seems alot of people got out the wrong side of bed today and like posting unhelpful threads that don't give a solution but just pry into why somone would have to copy a cd.

Thanks again my friend!

secret_squirrel

How dare a company insist I need a windows OS to play game X
How dare a company insist I need DirectX 10,000 to play game X
How dare a company insist I need a 3d Acelerator with T&L to play game X.

Life's tough sometimes. Learn to live with it.

Bout the only thing that should be done is put a warning on the box.

Apart from copying your own and others data cd's when there are far easier and cheaper programs that do it out there - what legit uses does clonecd have? And yes last time I used clonecd it was to create a copy of a game for a lan session. That makes me a pirate in the eyes of the law - so be it. I've learnt to live with it - so should anyone else.

secret_squirrel

secret_squirrel wrote:

Fortunately its obvious its refering to clonecd

Problem identified in half a sentence - how was this not helpful?

Syth

secret_squirrel wrote:

How dare a company insist I need a windows OS to play game X
How dare a company insist I need DirectX 10,000 to play game X
How dare a company insist I need a 3d Acelerator with T&L to play game X.

Life's tough sometimes. Learn to live with it.

I would see a big difference between needing certain software/hardware to run a game and secretly installing some other software that removes some of the functionality of your computer.

I always think it'll be funny when game developers start to take Linux seriously as a gaming platform (Allways the optimist, me). They would not be able to remove the programme for making a cd image appear as a normal cd, because well, it's the same programme for accessing your hard drive, your actual cd, your floppies. So it can't be removed. I can see it now: "To play this game, please remove your hard drive, then restart the game"

secret_squirrel

Syth wrote:

I would see a big difference between needing certain software/hardware to run a game and secretly installing some other software that removes some of the functionality of your computer.

thinking about it a bit more I tend to agree with you - and as i said previously there should atleast be a disclaimer and seperate license agreement involved.

However in the specific case of clonecd which as far as I am aware has very little legitimate use I can understand why a software company would do it - although I dont particualrly condone it. But if you really dont like it - dont buy the game - or get around it by updating clonecd. Personally I got rid of it coz it messed up a few things on my PC.

Fenster

Well to give my own two cents on the matter, I can live with a piece of software telling me I need xyz other program (hey, use Linux for a while ) to run it, but I draw the line when a game tells me its perfectly capable of running, but won't becasue I've abc program installed.

As I see it, once I purchase a game or other bit of software, its mine to do with as a please. I had this problem myself with Splinter Cell, but I just cracked it and ran the game anyways.

secret_squirrel

Exactly so. Im a supporter of the principle of 'fair use' even though that has absolutely basis in irish law thus technically making us all pirates wether we run clonecd or copy a cd to mp3.

flyinfishmonkey

Fenster wrote:

I had this problem myself with Splinter Cell, but I just cracked it and ran the game anyways.

Sorry Fenster but can you elaborate on what you did to crack it please so I can continue to keep CloneCD on my drive and it not interfere with Splinter C.
PM me the details if you don't want to print them here. Thanking you in anticipation...

Giblet

Cracks are illegal.

Remove CloneCD or don't play the game.

Syth

Giblet wrote:

Cracks are illegal.

Actually I don't think that's true. Copying a game (or other copyrighted work) is illegal, yes, but AFAIK ireland doesn't yet have anykind of DMCA-like law (yet), so circumventing copy control might not be illegal.

fenster wrote:

I draw the line when a game tells me its perfectly capable of running, but won't becasue I've abc program installed.

Here, here. It's not like a game needs OpenGL 1000 for technical resaons in order to run, it's merely refusing to run because of other installed software, which doesn't affect the game itself in any way. Which is funny because I'm pretty sure it's possible to copy the game without running or even installing the game, so if you plan to copy it, then this copy hindering method is useless. (Notice I said copy hindering, as I'd bet money that one could get a unautherized copy of this game, so it doesn't prevent copying).

RE*AC*TOR

Clonecd can be used to make legal backups of your own games ffs. I didn't really expect this totalitarian horse manure here. I understand that boards doesn't want to be sent nasty letters from big companies about warez, but this is stupid. He asked a question about a game - didn't require a lecture. Ubisoft screwed up big time with their anti-piracy software - I read a letter in PCZONE or PCGAMER a while back, the software also kicks in on older cd-roms and won't allow the game to play. If I were you, I'd either return the game and get a refund (I doubt there's any mention on the box about what software you're required not to have), or donwload a crack.

Ciaran500

You sure your using Clonecd v5.0.2.1?

According to the website it has "- New: Workaround for SafeDisc 3 blacklisting"

Its not just ubisoft that has fooked up on the copy protection, every safedisc v3 protected has these problems.

flyinfishmonkey

Thanx REACTOR. I was beggining to think it was just me... Looking through the thread again I think I can firmly state that only a few people helped or informed me in a way that I could use and yes I read in another thread that the Boards were for helping people and not putting others own non related opinions across or deviating from the original question asked. As for a Moderator now hopping in and telling me what is and isn't legal makes me wonder whether or not these boards are worth the time. I have not printed many posts on here but those I have, have mostly been questions that have been very forthcomingly answered but I personally seemed to grasp the notion that unless "someone" has something helpful to say, "don't bother typing it"!!

If I have missed the point I apologise to all concerned but I feel that if someone makes a suggestion to the postee then it should be up to them whether or not to have the common sense or integrity to take that information and use it to the best of its intentions! I think some people on here should chill out a bit and get a life cos it strikes me that some of them are power happy and are flying off the handle when they are in no way relating to the question asked. Thank you to all who helped me with my simple question though. I remain a happy punter.

_CreeD_

flyinfishmonkey wrote:

but I personally seemed to grasp the notion that unless "someone" has something helpful to say, "don't bother typing it"!!

Welcome to internet forums. Every one of them has a vast number of bored trolls who will glady use any post they happen to click on to enlightem us all on their god like views of anything remotely related to the original question.
But then I kinda did that now by typing this :eek:

Fenster

Giblet, the whole legality of it is moot as far as I'm concerned. As I said above, once I purchase software, I see it as mine to do with as I please. But this really isn't a line of argument for this board. If anyone wants to continue it further, PM me.

ingrid

secret_squirrel wrote:

TBH it would have helped us if you had told us the name of the game your are talking about.

Fortunately its obvious its refering to clonecd - which is specifically used for pirating games and CD's and not a lot else afaik.

I assume you are using a legit copy of whatever game your talking about?

Handy hint - check whats last installed if you suddenly get problems you didnt have before.

how do you check what you have installed

Ciaran500

The easiest way is to go to control panel, then "Add/remove programs". Look for Clonecd, Alcohol 120%, Game Jack, Daemon Tools, Blindwrite or anything similar to that.

Unless someone else is using your PC it unlikely you would have any of these programs without knowing it.

calhob_ie

To throw my two cents into this, Remember back in the 16bit days when all the instruction manuals for Amiga, St games told you to:

"Make a backup copy of these disks and store the originals somewhere safe"

were perfectly entitled to make backup copies of software we've legally purchased for our own use and by putting copy protection like this onto discs games developers are preventing us from doing this. What happens when one of these discs get scratched or warped or whatever. No doubt the company will tell you to send them 20quid, wait six months and sacrfice your first born on the off chance they might send you a replacement.

Gits

Chris

secret_squirrel

calhob_ie wrote:

were perfectly entitled to make backup copies of software we've legally purchased for our own use and by putting copy protection like this onto discs games developers are preventing us from doing this.

I think you'll find that backup copy arguement is only valid in the US - Irish copyright law makes no provision for copying a cd for backup purposes.

Syth

secret_squirrel wrote:

I think you'll find that backup copy arguement is only valid in the US - Irish copyright law makes no provision for copying a cd for backup purposes.

I think this may be true. AFAIK in the UK at least the concept of 'fair use' doesn't really exist, at least not as mucha s in the US. In the UK media shifting is illegal AFAIR. Don't really knwo what the irish situation is. Wouldn't be suprised if it was the same.