New UCD Site...

antrophe

Just to let ye UCD heads know that theres a new UCD SU site over at http://www.ucdsu.net, its got its own dedicated boards, you can post your own news and more. Check it out, join up and let us know what ye think.

OfflerCrocGod

It looks OK, but in the end if I want to know something about UCD I'll post it in here

DadaKopf

Looks like Indymedia.ie.

Syth

DadaKopf wrote:

Looks like Indymedia.ie.

A socialist SU produces an Indymedia like website?!

Shock Horror!

antrophe

Co god forbid a union would have a website that encourages open debate among its membership, god forbid members can post and reply to articles, check union minutes and directly get involved in campaigns. Shock horror....

I for one am disgusted........

Syth

antrophe wrote:

Co god forbid a union would have a website that encourages open debate among its membership, god forbid members can post and reply to articles, check union minutes and directly get involved in campaigns. Shock horror....

I for one am disgusted........

I for one am disgusted that the union will not tolerate any opposition to itself. One of the rules is "Commentary on UCDSU editorial policy on the newswire will be removed". That is quoted verbatim from http://www.ucdsu.net/editorial.php. What hypocracy. Why doesn't the union want people to question it? What's wrong with opposition?

antrophe

'Why doesn't the union want people to question it? What's wrong with opposition?'

Itd be useful for a start if you could distinguish between EDITORIAL and UNION policy.

As it stands, by having a site where anyone can post: opposition is in fact encouraged to union policy. When was the last time a UCD SU facilitated such things?

Hypocrisy? Well, for one the newswire is a newswire. If a nazi post is deleted, then why would we allow a nazi to waste peoples time by allowing them to clog up the newswire with complaints about their deletion?

If people have problems they are best raised in the http://www.ucdsu.net/forum/viewforum.php?f=26 site related section of the message boards or send in directly. Rather than posting them on the NEWS WIRE which is for news, hence why its called the newswire.

Alternatively, they can post complaints to the editorial email list which they can join here http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ucdsuedit/join and also view all editorial actions.

Syth

What if there was censorship in the newswire that someone objected to, and they wanted to raise that awareness of what they saw as wrong, so they wrote an article along the lines of "UCD SU newswire clamps down on tin-foil hat wears!", by the rules, that would not be allowed. However I think that is wrong. After all the actions of those who control the news are newsworthy. Do you not think so?

On a side note, if you want to make it a truly accessable site, why not turn into it a wiki? Now that would be good.

DeVore

Thats why we have a Mod-Free feedback forum for people to complain about the moderatorship and other policies of Boards for example. I also think that very topic is why a lot of students prefer to post here....


DeV.

antrophe

UCDSU.net also have a forum for discussion of matters pertaining to the site. We also actively invoted people to become moderators and editors of the site through an open email list where they can comment on editorial policy and get involved in doing features and so on.

Yes of course, if someone wrote a detailed article on outlining opposition to censorship on the site and editorial policy, that'd be fine as that is an article not a comment posted as an article. When that happens we post the comment underneath a relevant article, or post it to a section on the message baords.

Chinafoot

well i had a look and joined up but to be honest......i think i'll stay here.

Syth

peachypants wrote:

well i had a look and joined up but to be honest......i think i'll stay here.

Me too. G'wan boards.ie!

DadaKopf

Atrophe, all I said was it looked like Indymedia.ie because it's using the SAME PROGRAM developed for Indymedia. To be honest, I don't know why all the time was wasted replacing this heap with previous version that someone obviously put a lot of time into and was actually more user-friendly, even if it did need tweaking.

I said nothing about freedom of speech or anything of the sort. I still commend the SU on (after so many years) managing to get a site like this up and running. But it still looks and feels poxy.

It's a credit to the 'loony left (TM)' SU this year that the site is so open. I dread to think how it would have been if run by the likes of Richard Waghorne. As an avowed libertarian, his mates over at the Freedom Institute run a tighter ship than the fascists at www.stormfront.org. That says a lot.

Syth

Dont to start a total flame war, but I've always found the right wing people more open to free speech that the left wing. For example most of teh right wing people are involved in some of the big debating societies like the L&H and Lawsoc, and when they hold a debate, it's an actual debate. They get people with different viewpoints (sometimes very different viewpoints),a nd have a debate. There actually are various different opinions. Which is good and shows actually caring for different opinions.

lib

http://www.freedominst.org/freespeech.pdf