questionning the past

jinxycat

ok this is gonna be weird but i recently went to a fortune teller for the laugh with a few mates, unfortunatly he told me something that i never knew about the past that happened, he was right about everything else that happened and now that he said this i'm having second thoughts about this particular subject.
i now want to question this person but am afraid of the answer they'll give, also i'll be digging upthe past, i'l admit it was never sorted and wish it was ,but it might make things worse or it might make things easier, i dunno what to do.
also i don't want this person to think i don't trust them coz i do, but it's hard now coz all these yrs i thought it was one person's fault but now it looks like it was both peoples fault. ah why did this fortune teller have to tell me this, he just knew everythiing even things about me that only my closest friends know and that he couldn't possible know.

feylya

Personally I don't believe in fortune tellers. I think that you find truth in what they say, no matter how crap it may be. The question is, are you happy with how the past has been dealt with and how ****ed up could things get if you go poking around?

sci0x

I dont believe in fortune tellers either. There are two choices you can make.

1.Leave the past as it is and leave this problem unsorted (coz if you decide to solve the unsolved problem it will more than likely lead to new problems and therefore no good can come of it)

2. This unsolved problem will eat away at you every day for the rest of your life as you wish you could have it solved for good.

Maybe you should return, hear what the fortune teller has to say, and then decide what to do from there, leave it or take it further from there.

Esel

Most fortune tellers are expert in psychological tricks. They can read your answers to innocent questions and statements and modify their technique accordingly. They can read your body language, they know all the tell-tale signs. ".....I see a person who died recently...they loved you very much....your mother?" "No, my Gran" Change tack. "Ah yes, she is very young looking..." etc etc.

Do not be taken in. I am not talking about the money. If you make life decisions based on this, next thing you will be reading your horoscope in a magazine or paper and believing it.

Sarky

esel wrote:

Do not be taken in. I am not talking about the money. If you make life decisions based on this, next thing you will be reading your horoscope in a magazine or paper and believing it.

So I don't have a secret admirer in the office?

Damn you Cosmo!

Emboss

I was the biggest sceptic of them aswell, I was down south a few weeks ago and decided not to just go to one, but to test them.

I explained I wasn't going to answer any questions not even yes or no.

I wanted clear dates names etc or I wasn't going to pay.

she agreed to this and went on to tell me very specific things about my past not generic bull**** that i was expecting.

she was able to tell me about very specific incidents that happened in my past she got the years and months correct,

talked about my current job which is not a very common job and named names.

very very very very scary how right she was without any prompting from me.

i kept a poker face for the whole time and didn't open my mouth once, not even a nod to agree.

i still now try and figure out ways she could have done this but i'm at a loss i have no answers, i live on the other side of the country i'd never visited this place before, i had no intention of going to her untill 30 seconds after i came across her.

scary!

Sleepy

They can be scary alright but you should try and keep Derren Browne in mind. He can do all that scary **** but admits it's all done throught trickery

MistressPandora

Jinxy babe, all I can suggest is weigh the pros and cons of what you want to ask carefully.
Maybe this fortune teller was telling the truth or playing tricks on you, but sorry to say, you'll never know. Although, in all fairness, I've scared myself even just using tarot cards. For example, 4 years ago, I read in my cards that one of my closet friends was going to get married (she received 2 lover cards, which in itself is a strong indictation) and I'm now proud to say that she's engaged and I get to be maid of honour in about 2 years. And she forgot about the cards until she told me the good news.
Maybe it's not all trickery, or maybe it is, but it's supposed to make you think about your life and what *you* want to do with it. Good luck babe

jinxycat

thanks for all the replies guys, yeah i went in not saying anything and he just knew everything , it stunned me tbh, how he could know these things. even some of my friends don't know about half of the stuff he told me that were true.

like he knew my friend was pregnent and she only knew herself (she was one of the peeps that went with me) yeah i know what your gonna say well ya'd notice a bump but tbh she has none yet, she's as falt as anything :P

Emboss

Sleepy wrote:

They can be scary alright but you should try and keep Derren Browne in mind. He can do all that scary **** but admits it's all done throught trickery

he hasn't done it to me or anyone i know so untill he does in my eyes he can't

most of the time you interact with darren

and alot of the time he's not very specific.

someone who has never met me, and those exact names and dates of things in my past without any information from me

how is that a trick ?

darren _always_ makes the other person interact in some way or another.

i had none with this woman. none at all. apart from the word go she knew i was a tight ****.

hungryhippo

Don't know if it'sagainst forum rules or not but can anyone say what/where fortune teller they went to and how much it cost? Would like to try this myself.

Johnny Versace

Come on, it's a know fact that fortune teller use every trick in the book to make you believe what they are saying, whether it be psychological/body language/hypnotism.

Forget what this person said and live your life how you choose, not what some con man said.

He is very obviously taking advantage of you. You should be angry, not amazed.

Beruthiel

Johnny Versace wrote:

Forget what this person said and live your life how you choose, not what some con man said.

couldn't agree more
live your life how you want to and don't have it limited in any way by what someone else says

Emboss

Beruthiel wrote:

couldn't agree more
live your life how you want to and don't have it limited in any way by what someone else says

Is telling this person to ignore an incident that has now crossed her path in life limiting them anyway ?

Everyones life is limited/enhanced/guided by others like it or not.

Typedef

jinxycat wrote:

ok this is gonna be weird but i recently went to a fortune teller for the laugh with a few mates, unfortunatly he told me something that i never knew about the past that happened.

Ok, stop right there.

Fortune tellers are con men, plain and simple. Observe while I tell you your fortune.

"I see a pain of some sort in your recent past"
"A failed love"
"Ah... and now I see you meeting a rich footballer and living happily ever after"

"That'll be five quid please"

"Also... I'm doing a special on 'mushroom crystals' ... helps keep away nymphs and gets your soul from purgatory into heaven... just five quid".


No imperical evidence, in fact, quite a bit of evidence to suggest fortune tellers are simply a different stripe of mystic quack (sort of like priests), leads to ... nay... demands you don't waste any of your life even entertaining the idea, that there's truth buried in this mumbo-jumbo somewhere.

e-gad.

Emboss

Typedef has spoken,

You may go in peace my child.

:rolleyes:

Zombrex

Emboss wrote:

someone who has never met me, and those exact names and dates of things in my past without any information from me

Read a Sherlock Homes book or any book about con men. If the person is good they can tell all sorts of stuff from just looking at you. Con men can tell if you are married, divorced, gay, hate your boss, pregnent etc from how you move, act, walk. The fact that you didn't do anything just made it easier for them. They told you stuff that they could tell from observing you, how you acted. If you asked them something, like what did I do last year in Spain, they would probably be completely stumpted (especially if you weren't actually in Spain).

As a "fortune teller" who now tells people how it is done once said "if we could actually read the future do you think we would be working out of smelly tents in fair shows reading oridinary people's fortune"

jinxycat

ok maybe it'll help if i explained the situation, see my folks split when i was 13, it was very hard on the family and alot of mixed emotions arose.
i always belieced that it was because my mum had an affair with another man which did happen.
this was the first thing the fortune teller told me "that you've been hurt in the past because of betrayel in your family, but love it wasn't just your mum, it was your dad too long before your mum, your mum was just found out about he wasn't (now he did say that the marriage was long dead b4 i was born) this really shocked me as i mentioned nothing about mu folks and he told me this. when i was small i found out my mum was pregnant on my bro b4 they were married and always wondered were they forced to marry because of this but never said anymore but now i'm beginning to really think this is true.

all these years i believe my family broke up because my mum had an afffair and i hated her for it, i even stopped writing to her because of it and shut her out of my life completely, this was very hard to do as you can imagine and caused alot of mixed emotions. but now it seems to have been both parties, i miss my mum and wanna get in contact with her but i dunno how to now, i shut her out and dunno if she'll forgive me for it.


thanks for listening guys

Emboss

Wicknight wrote:

Read a Sherlock Homes book or any book about con men. If the person is good they can tell all sorts of stuff from just looking at you. Con men can tell if you are married, divorced, gay, hate your boss, pregnent etc from how you move, act, walk. The fact that you didn't do anything just made it easier for them. They told you stuff that they could tell from observing you, how you acted. If you asked them something, like what did I do last year in Spain, they would probably be completely stumpted (especially if you weren't actually in Spain).

As a "fortune teller" who now tells people how it is done once said "if we could actually read the future do you think we would be working out of smelly tents in fair shows reading oridinary people's fortune"

You obviosuly forgot to read the post.

from the time I sat down I said _nothing_ if I had of interacted with her then maybe some of the stuff might just might have made sense.

she named names. how the f*ck can you know if someone has a daughter and their name by looking at them ? was i wearing it on my t-shirt ?

Did I have one of my best friends died when he was 17 and the month/year it happened in and how it happened tatooted on my forehead ?

I was as sceptical as anyone here is before this. read the post carefully.

I sat in the chair, looked them in eye, and said nothing.....no nods no yes no no's i didn't ask any questions at all.....

they just talked.....

I might just add to this I'm a 26yr old grown man, this happened very recently, I'm not a child, I don't need to read homes to know about con men, where i'm from i grew up with enough of them.

elivsvonchiaing

jinxycat wrote:

all these years i believe my family broke up because my mum had an afffair and i hated her for it, i even stopped writing to her because of it and shut her out of my life completely, this was very hard to do as you can imagine and caused alot of mixed emotions. but now it seems to have been both parties, i miss my mum and wanna get in contact with her but i dunno how to now, i shut her out and dunno if she'll forgive me for it.

My belief is that you always had your doubts it was solely your mum's fault - and the "psychic" read this through body language etc... e.g. statement 1 - observe subject - decide statement 2 - statement 2 - observe subject...

I can see phoning her could be difficult even if you have the number. I would suggest getting some "important" mail addressed to you at her address sent to her address. (Only if you once lived there). And showing up (maybe two weeks later) on the pretext that "I believe something was accidently addressed here..." and go from there.

Failing that, pour your heart out in a letter and send it!

If you don't have her address - you will get it through perserverance.

You know your mum better than I do so - think a lot about this and you will come up with the perfect answer - not one that is easy to implement - but from what you said - you probably need to reconcile with your mum.

Calibos

I went to a car dealer with the intention of ordering a new car and trading in my old one. I then went to another car dealer and he qouted me a cost to change figure of slightly less then the first dealer which worked out as a saving of €5 a month on my repayments. I figured well seeing as they both came up with virtually the same figures that they must be correct and Audi's must not be discounted much, so I didn't haggle and signed the deal there and then with the second, slightly cheaper dealer.

Twas only a few days later that a realised I had the first dealers quotes on a sheet of paper in the door pocket......and the second dealer must have seen this when he took my old car for a test drive.....and knew exactly how much to undercut the first guy to make the deal.

There was a point in their somewhere!! :D

Even conmen have good days. Eventually they are bound to get a 'hit' If they 'read' 100 people a week for example. You may have 70 of those people walk out saying, "what a load of bollix". 29 walk out saying, "well he got most things wrong but he was right on one or two things, I wonder is there anything in this fortune telling lark, I reserve judgement". Then you have one person walking out saying, "Oh my god how did he know all that". Then that one person tells their story to friends who tell their friends and.........you have another 100 people queuing at the fortune tellers door next week. :rolleyes:

fightin irish

Calibos wrote:

I went to a car dealer with the intention of ordering a new car and trading in my old one. I then went to another car dealer and he qouted me a cost to change figure of slightly less then the first dealer which worked out as a saving of €5 a month on my repayments. I figured well seeing as they both came up with virtually the same figures that they must be correct and Audi's must not be discounted much, so I didn't haggle and signed the deal there and then with the second, slightly cheaper dealer.

Twas only a few days later that a realised I had the first dealers quotes on a sheet of paper in the door pocket......and the second dealer must have seen this when he took my old car for a test drive.....and knew exactly how much to undercut the first guy to make the deal.

There was a point in their somewhere!! :D

Even conmen have good days. Eventually they are bound to get a 'hit' If they 'read' 100 people a week for example. You may have 70 of those people walk out saying, "what a load of bollix". 29 walk out saying, "well he got most things wrong but he was right on one or two things, I wonder is there anything in this fortune telling lark, I reserve judgement". Then you have one person walking out saying, "Oh my god how did he know all that". Then that one person tells their story to friends who tell their friends and.........you have another 100 people queuing at the fortune tellers door next week. :rolleyes:

Ithink you jusst hit the nail on the head there!!!!!

swiss

http://maddox.xmission.com/c.cgi?u=astrology

Sums it up really.

Johnny Versace

Look, the questions these con people ask, anyone can relate to them.

Everyone of us has huge regrets from the past/misses someone dearly/knows someone who died/etc/etc/etc.

The classic is... there is a man in your life - he is very important to you, or used to be very important to you... the first letter in his name begins with a "J"... he is suffering a lot at the moment and needs your guidance.

Ego rub followed by the obvious "John"...

BLah.