Price this computer?

dlane99

hey,

Ive been gathering pieces together for a computer over the last few weeks,
Im not sure if i will sell it or keep it,
i dont even know if it would pay me to sell it.

I was hoping ye might tell me what ye think its worth?
maybe an at least and an at most guess?

Thermaltake Xaser Tsunami Case (w. window)
Athlon XP 3200 (400 fsb)
1GB RAM
Asus A7N8X-E Deluxe motherboard (usb 2.0 and firewire)
MSI DVD +/- RW
Sapphire Radeon 9600 Atlantis 256MB DDR AGP
19" CRT monitor
200GB H.D.
500W PSU
XP home OEM
Usual lighting and stuff

Thanks for any help

dlane99

Also,
I was wondering what i could expect to get if i sold my current comp?
its a dell 2400

p4 2.8
512 ram
dvd+rw
80 gb HD

(without selling the monitor)
i got it last sept.
perfect condition.

Batbat

perhaps 400 Euro if your lucky, for the P4 and stuff whats the GFX card?

Batbat

dlane99 wrote:

hey,

Ive been gathering pieces together for a computer over the last few weeks,
Im not sure if i will sell it or keep it,
i dont even know if it would pay me to sell it.

I was hoping ye might tell me what ye think its worth?
maybe an at least and an at most guess?

Thermaltake Xaser Tsunami Case (w. window)
Athlon XP 3200 (400 fsb)
1GB RAM
Asus A7N8X-E Deluxe motherboard (usb 2.0 and firewire)
MSI DVD +/- RW
Sapphire Radeon 9600 Atlantis 256MB DDR AGP
19" CRT monitor
200GB H.D.
500W PSU
XP home OEM
Usual lighting and stuff

Thanks for any help

750 Euro, the GFX card alone is worth 200 second hand

dlane99

Batbat wrote:

750 Euro, the GFX card alone is worth 200 second hand

Are you serious?!

the stuff ive listed to put into the comp im building cost over a grand!

savemejebus

welcome to boards, the internet and life in general.

things you should remember,
1)the minute you bought that stuff it was out of date
2)the minute you bought it it became 2nd hand goods
3)people here know exactly how much this sort of stuff costs, what it's flaws are and most importantly where to get it cheap.
4) noone here will pay top price for out of date & second hand computer parts

keeping that in mind if you want to make money, or what you spent back selling this machine you should probably try buy and sell.

dlane99

second hand means its been previously used,
assembly of parts dosent make them second hand.

its a pretty stupid stupid thing to say that the moment i buy something it is out of date,
the moment i bought my athlon xp 3200+ amd released the 3400? think not.

would you like to try to assemble that ammount of stuff for less than a grand?
be my guest.

Mutant_Fruit

I can assemble a similar spec system for just over 1000euro i believe.

Anyway, just a few questions. Why bother with the lighting? Most joe soaps (the people who would be the best customers) don't really care about fancy schamncy lighting. Anyone who does would more than likely be well able to build their own computer. So ditch lighting, and get a cheaper case. This looks nice to me.

Athlon XP 3200: Why not get a 2500+ and overclock it. You'll save about 80-120 on the price of the 3200, and you can afford to buy a great cooler, and still save money. If at all possible, get the 2500+ M (mobile version). That overclocks easier than a hot knife going through butter.

Sapphire Radeon 9600 Atlantis 256MB DDR AGP

Not really, i picked up my 9600Pro (which performs better i believe) for less than 140euro from komplett. In fact, komplett retail that exact card he specified for only 100euro ish. the xt is far superior to the one mentioned above.

750 Euro, the GFX card alone is worth 200 second hand

Already mentioned about the graphics card, but my estimate would be (if you were selling to a joe soap) 200 more than what it costs you to build it, depending on your salesmanship. You could try selling it at 300 or 350 more than it costs, and lower the price to convince a sale

Mac daddy

Batbat wrote:

750 Euro, the GFX card alone is worth 200 second hand

haha newb not

have a look for the "Product AID: 13895 256MB Sapphire Radeon 9600 Lite-Retail" this one is just over 100 euro's

Or you can get 256MB Sapphire 9600 XT Lite-Retail for 159 euro's

Mac daddy

I would give you about 600-675 for the whole lot if i was buying it- why second hand and pc parts do not hold the value - Buy and sell its the way for you to go if your trying to sell it

Mutant_Fruit

Mac daddy wrote:

I would give you about 600-675 for the whole lot if i was buying it- why second hand and pc parts do not hold the value - Buy and sell its the way for you to go if your trying to sell it

He's buying the parts brand new selling it on as "pre-built" for people unable or unwilling to build their own. Tis not second hand (as far as i know).

savemejebus

second hand means its been previously used,

no, second hand means previously owned, it has nothing to do with usage.

its a pretty stupid stupid thing to say that the moment i buy something it is out of date,

not when you're dealing with computer parts, the speed with which computer parts go out of date is amazing, just look at graphics cards, a few months ago the 9800 was the leading edge, now there is the x800 and 6800's, which i'm sure will be surpassed in a few months. Now i don't claim to know loads about computers but the example you gave above was the athlon xp3200+. Now i could be wrong but I'd imagine that this was surpassed by the AMD Athlon 64 3200+ (in that category).

In any case the point i was trying to make, and which has been repeated a couple of times in this thread is that in order for you to make your money back and make a profit you will probably need to sell your computer somewhere other than boards, probably in buy and sell, cos here it is unlikely that you will get the price you want.

dlane99

I wasnt planning on selling it on the boards,
i didnt say i was going to,
i just asked what price people thought i could get for it.

id consider the athlon xp 3200 and the 64 3200 2 different catagories,
given that one is a 64 bit proccessor and the other isnt.

so second hand means ownership?
so when dell "owned" all the parts of my computer, i was buying it off them "second hand", again, i dont think so.

as Mutant_Fruit said, puying the parts to sell a pre built computer system is not second hand.

(That would make Kompletts pre-built systems second hand also)

thanks for your posts guys,
will post again if i sell it.

Thanks.

savemejebus

so second hand means ownership?
so when dell "owned" all the parts of my computer, i was buying it off them "second hand", again, i dont think so.
(That would make Kompletts pre-built systems second hand also)

Oops my mistake I didn't realise I was talking to a company in the league of Dell or even Komplett. Silly me :rolleyes:

Mutant_Fruit

savemejebus wrote:

Oops my mistake I didn't realise I was talking to a company in the league of Dell or even Komplett. Silly me :rolleyes:

Its quite simple. He's wondering what markup he can get if he built a computer for someone. He's not buying parts, using them for a few weeks/months then selling em second hand. If ya know what i mean.

id consider the athlon xp 3200 and the 64 3200 2 different catagories,
given that one is a 64 bit proccessor and the other isnt.

The AMD 64 3200+ is also a kickass 32bit chip, and outperforms the xp 3200. Thats what i'd recommend getting, if you want very good performance.

Slutmonkey57b

Athlon 3200 is more expensive than the A64 2800+ which outperforms it. That's what we mean by "depreciation". If you don't understand the principle of depreciation you're not going to starting a business selling computers. You should be able to get €1000/1100 in buy & sell for it but there's no point asking about self-build resell value on a place like this. The posters here don't buy it. Look at what dubdvd's selling on the For Sale board and you'll get an idea how pointless it is.

savemejebus

I realise this, the whole point of my original reply was trying to explain the reason someone suggested he'd get €750 (on boards)for the setup he had spent more than 1000 on and also to suggest that he would get more money for it on buy and sell, thats all.

damn slutmonkey beat me to it

dlane99

Slutmonkey57b wrote:

If you don't understand the principle of depreciation you're not going to starting a business selling computers.

Never mentiond anything about starting a business.

and i got the athlon xp 3200 for 100 so the 64 isnt really cheaper in my situation.

i was using dell and komplett as examples to disprove your theory, never even said i was a company.

jesus, what is with all the ignorant reaponses.

i put up a simple post asking you guys, who are supposedly "in the know", what ye thought it would be worth if i was going to sell.

i never had any intention of selling it on the boards so why assume i did?

all you had to say is "1200 on buy and sell" or something constructive,

god, what a waste of time, talk about being unhelpful.

better thing to do with my time.

later.

jor el

You have to understand though that you did ask what people thought the PC was worth, not what you'd get for it by selling it on buy and sell or somewhere else. If you ask here, it's reasonable to assume that you intend to sell it here unless you state otherwise, which you didn't.

As for new Vs 2nd hand, as you said yourself, your not a retailer but the PC is assembled from new components. However, as you probably wont be offering any warrenty, appart from the components warrenty from the original supplier, it is essentially a 2nd hand machine. Why would someone pay large amounts of money to you when they could pay the same to PC World or Dell and get full support from them. I know, your PC is a better spec than anything from Dell at the same price [biased opinoin, I hate Dell] but will whomever buys the PC know this, or even care?

Custom building PCs for people is expensive ans can be un-profitable, which is why I'd only do this if someone asked me, I wouldn't build and then hope to sell it. Of course, you could always keep and for yourself as it'd make quite a good games machine.