Back to Eire blues,debts and wanting to get out !

I am MAN

Anyone else experiencing this right now?

I have just been to travelling around Thailand and ive got a fair amount of debts to pay back and I really want to get out of this country after experiencing a different culture and a less expensive way of living. I dont want to get into the habit of settlement here again and I REALLY dont want to lose my determination of moving away even for a year for self discovery, interest and any job just to get by for a while before I get serious on education.


Im 19 btw.

Is anyone aching with this type of pain?

Gav99

I always feel the same when coming home from Thailand. More so than any other destination actually. There is no worse feeling. However, give it 2 weeks and it usually goes away.

colincarnate

you're the dumbass to have debts at 19

Beruthiel

this is not a personal issue
I am moving it to Travel/Holidays
B

I am MAN

I dont want it to go away I just dont like this country, and the last comment I have chosen to ignore Mr.Perfect.

Captain Trips

I am MAN wrote:

I dont want it to go away I just dont like this country, and the last comment I have chosen to ignore Mr.Perfect.

SO just do it. You're realistic options are US, UK, Australia or Canada as english speaking countries unless you speak some central european language.

The US green card lottery comes up in November and you can apply online. THe UK is easy to get to and you don't need a visa (ever). Plenty of people go to Australia these days.

There's plenty bad with this country. Personally, it's the lack of sun. I'd rather come home from work and be on the beach and earn a 1/3rd of the money than live here with a strong euro which ironically has given us all the opportunity to see how the rest of the world is. We'd be happier poorer.

AT 19 being able to feck off to Thailand is great, but disheartening!

impr0v

This isn't aimed at I Am Man in particular, but it seems to me everyone has reasons to be unhappy with their lot these days, but they also have the magic silver bullet to kill this unhappiness. The magic bullet is some variation of 'travel away to alternate land where the weather is great and the living is easy'. Go then, multiply and be happy.

Bringing the theoretical back down to cold sober reality, it also seems to me that these same people are those who have wandered through the country of their dreams with a large wad of borrowed money in their pockets. Man those days were good, I'd like some more. Of course you do, we'd all like to wander through, or even live in a Gauguin-esque paradise, free of such mundane obligations as working to earn a living, but one needs currency to build such a palace of dreams upon.

The palm trees are always greener on the next island and debt is an unpleasant side effect of tropical disease shots.

Work in this unbearable country until you have you debts paid off. Build up some savings, then go back to la-la land and I think you'll find it's a different prospect living and working in the country, without the support network you have left here. It's doable of course, but just expect it to be the breezy utopian existence it is when you're passing through as a guest of the Bank of Ireland.

I have two or three friends that are just back from something similar and are moaning about what a dump this place is. As a member of the under-privileged few who work, live and aspire to doing the same for the forseeable future, right here, i take it as an insult. I also see it as naiivete on their behalf, and a reluctance to knuckle down and deal with the mundane necessities of life.

A friend of mine was explaining to his father why he doesn't like his job, the main reason between a lack of job satisfaction. 'Job satisfaction, what the hell is that?' His father was making a point that not so long ago this was not something you considered, you became whatever there was an opportunity to become; builder, baker, candlestick maker. Things have moved on and luckily, most of us do not get some choice, and can look for job satisfaction among the options open to us. But some people wish to take this concept too far and want to exist in some kind of trouble free vaccuum, where they don't have to suffer anything they find even mildly annoying. It dosen't exist.

/rant.

Redleslie2

Ah stfu you bitter little bloody square. When you grow up a bit someday you might realise you've wasted the best years of your life. In rain soaked rip off Ireland of all places.

_CreeD_

He's a 'bitter little bloody square' because he's realistic? LMAO. It's a very simple and very true point, holidaying in another country is very different from living there. Ireland is far from perfect but is a lot better than most. It's no reason not to try and better your situation by moving to a country that agrees with you more, but make sure you have an accurate idea of what REAL life there would be like.

impr0v

Redleslie2 wrote:

Ah stfu you bitter little bloody square. When you grow up a bit someday you might realise you've wasted the best years of your life. In rain soaked rip off Ireland of all places.

You're posting from your tent in Barbados, right?

I am MAN

Im of that opinion also, Im not going to waste my youth in Ireland im going to travel some more and ive already began making plans with my girlfriend.

neXus9

impr0v wrote:

I have two or three friends that are just back from something similar and are moaning about what a dump this place is. As a member of the under-privileged few who work, live and aspire to doing the same for the forseeable future, right here, i take it as an insult. I also see it as naiivete on their behalf, and a reluctance to knuckle down and deal with the mundane necessities of life.

I understand what your saying, people thinking that they can live in a paradise stlye country like Thailand forever and not have to worry over the fact that the minimum wage is horrendously low (having said that, usit do a TEFL (teaching enlglish) scheme in Korea which gives good money considering the low cost of living), but a lot of people are just fed up with the low wages (the IT industry is a joke. A degree and 2/3 years experience:23k??? WTF?) and high prices in this country and decide to move over permanently.

A lot of people now that are doing apprentices as electricians, carpenters, and cabinet makers are deciding to go over to Australia for a year. If they like it, chances are they'll probably stay.

Mayshine

impr0v wrote:

You're posting from your tent in Barbados, right?

Not a tent in Barbados I suppose, but a serviced apartment on Orchard Road, Singapore. Came home from work, swam eighty lengths in my pool, went to the driving range hit 180 ball, cost me €5, taxi there and back (15 minutes each way) cost me €10, dinner a nice indian feast (€2.50)

I' 26 in IT and 3 years out of college

My 2 cents

I guess I am in a slightly priviledged position of actually working longish-term aboroad, currently in Singapore. Lets just get the facts straight. Your life and each day of it are what you make of it.

If Ireland isn't appealing go somewhere else or how about trying to work for an irish company that affords you travel. That is what I do

Having said that if I had to choose between living in the country I was born a raised in or staying where I am, I would find it very difficult to go back and enjoy spending time there. As far as I can see in most respects Singapore is a better place to live and spend time that Dublin and about half the price also. I have also learned that people do thing differently in different place and generally there is somewhere that does things better than Ireland. Ireland is not at the top of any list for effeciency, service, standard of living, cleanlyness or cost of living.

If more people travelled and saw how things are done abroad, came back home and rather than complaining tryed to impart the wisdom that they have seen abroad on Ireland, I am sure that I would be a better place

However if Ireland is the place that you live you should try to make the most of it. There are still plenty of way in which to enjoy yourself there

Loco

ive been in thailand 2 and a half months now, 2 weeks to go, i dont want to leave