Advertisement
If you have a new account but are having problems posting or verifying your account, please email us on hello@boards.ie for help. Thanks :)
Hello all! Please ensure that you are posting a new thread or question in the appropriate forum. The Feedback forum is overwhelmed with questions that are having to be moved elsewhere. If you need help to verify your account contact hello@boards.ie
Hi there,
There is an issue with role permissions that is being worked on at the moment.
If you are having trouble with access or permissions on regional forums please post here to get access: https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058365403/you-do-not-have-permission-for-that#latest
There is an issue with role permissions that is being worked on at the moment.
If you are having trouble with access or permissions on regional forums please post here to get access: https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058365403/you-do-not-have-permission-for-that#latest
Ju-Jitsu for beginners
-
26-06-2001 8:22am#1When I was about 15-17 I was in a band, Me and some of the boys in the band joined a Ju-Jitsu club a few years ago. Our Sensei, the velly honallable...Peter was astounded at how quickly we worked our way through the belts. The truth was that we played some pretty rough venues at the weekends and often ended up tussling in the car park after gigs - spilt beer, looking at someone's woman, you know.
Anyway by the time Tuesday night came around we were very much 'up for it'. When we earned our brown belts we were allowed to attend "special" classes where 5th dan black belts would teach us moves that were NOT part of the normal belt syllabus because they were offensive rather than defensive in nature.
One of these 5th dan black belts was the velly, velly honallable...Bob. He was one posing, big headed, antisocial *******! I'd never been face to face with Bob but I'd seen how he publicly belittled the other students and took pleasure from hurting them. They had a balcony where the public could watch and if Bob knew your girlfriend was there he'd make a point of making you look a twat.
After watching Bob feed his considallable ego by making one of my friends actually cry with pain (while his girlfriend was watching) it was suddenly MY TURN - and my girlfriend was watching too!
As I faced him and bowed a thousand scenarios went through my mind. I wasn't the strongest student in the class but knew I was faster than my Sensei and Bob didn't know I was left handed. So I took a right handed stance hoping to surprise him.
He went to give me a playful slap on the face and I blocked it! He did it again only harder and I blocked it again!! He started hurling abuse. I felt such euphoria. I could stop this man. If I could do that then I maybe I could drop him! He came in with a kick. I blocked it again!! I'm thinking; when I go on the offensive I'm going to tear his fcuking head off!
Then I made the decision to go at him. As I went forward I pictured all my friends carrying me aloft chanting my name in adoration and appreciation. I'd be their hero for years to come. They'd tell stories of how Hugo took this obnoxious little bstard down - Bob would retire from the sport because of the shame and probably die a lonely, bitter alcoholic in some doss house! I saw it all so clearly.
My 'lightning fast', two finger jab was heading straight for Bob's right eyeball. IT DIDN'T EVEN GET CLOSE! The next thing I knew my feet were overtaking my head in mid air, then I made serious, SERIOUS contact with the mat - face down. A moments deathly silence followed then the most excruciating pain as his knee made contact with the small of my back. Then a loud, dull thud. Everything went white for a split second then nothing.
The next thing I knew they were bringing me round. Bob had followed up his move by punching a bunch of nerves in my neck - knocking me out cold. The first thing my eyes focused on was Bob laughing and calling me an idiot.
I learned some important lessons that day. There's absolutely no room in this world for self-delusion. There is ALWAYS someone better than you and if I ever take on Bob again I'll make sure that I have a gun and he doesn't!
0
Comments
-
-
-
-
Never, ever confuse sparring with fighting
I remember showing my Aikido instructor my double jointed wrists - he spent the next 10 minutes smacking my face off the ground, each time locking my wrist up.
Then my Matsumuro Seito instructor was told I was resistant to pressure points - when I came round...
And I got the dubious honour of holding a shield for my TKD instructor a few times.
(Scutchy goes flying across the dojang - wheeee!)0 -
Nothing like getting kicked from one side of the room to the other by your Sensei . Caught my Sensei with a front snap kick one day and before my foot had landed he'd kicked me all the way over the other side of the room. The lesson there was to snap my kicks .
For some reason senior grades don't like it when lower grades catch them..
Must get back into training some day soon.
Ro0 -
Advertisement
-
-
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Lord Khan:
any Suggestions ... pro's and con's of each that is?</font>
It depends on what you actually want from the class. Like is it to
a) get fit
b) you want to compete in a new sport
c) To improve yourself mentally as well as physically through the discipline of a martial art form
d) just to be able to beat the crap out of someone?
I've done AIMAA Tae-kwon-do and that was pretty good for a and c but really expensive to compete at and borderline usless in the case of C.
I'm now learning Shaolin. A form of Kung-Fu. I am fitter now than before but not as fit as when I did the TKD. Its not really a sport as far as I am aware. C - There is a load of meditation and philosophy originating from the Shaolin monks. D -
If the bottom falls out of your world, drink Andrews and the world will fall out of your bottom!!
games?0 -
-
-
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Ronin:
Caught my Sensei with a front snap kick one day and before my foot had landed he'd kicked me all the way over the other side of the room. The lesson there was to snap my kicks.
</font>
I remember learning not to turn my back in sparring. The instructor kicked me in the head every time I did it for about 5 minutes. That lesson stuck 0 -
Advertisement
-
-
-
-
AGH! Kids - I hate 'em!
we should form some sort of club ;-)
one of the little ****ers lands me an unmerciful kick in the balls - I couldn't move for an hour!
I remember bowing to an 8 year old who took the opportunity to run in and punch me in the whotsits - he had the right attitude
Anyway, it's not good! Always try and get someone your own size to spar with.
Nah - spar against 6 foot 6 power lifters, then against short, mean, viscious fe**ers. Muggers don't go on a height quota!
0 -
-
-
Tae Kwondo is too much about high kicks and long distance strikes in general in my opinion. I m not saying it s not effective but in certain situations, you wouldn t be able to use your techniques.
I'd like to try something realistic. I heard that Krav Maga was good, and I just discovered a club of Brazilian Jiu Jitsu in Dublin, so I ll have a look soon
0 -
-
lmao
Firstly, its Jui-Jitsu(shows how much you disrespected the martial Art and therefore deserved to end up on the ground that night) I believe I know who This a$$hole is as he left me with a Cracked rib before and never even Appoligised!
(This guy is not the owner of the dojo but second in line, the head Sheehan is actually a really sound bloke)
Tuesday Night eh don't suppose it was down in Sandycove was it?
If your looking to do a martial Art Jui-Jistu is without a doubt the most efficient and Devastating of them all(its straight to the point no beating round the bush).
If you want to learn fancy kicks go do kick boxing, fact is if you tried to kick someone who had any experience in Jui-Jitsu you would end up flat on your face and with somthing broken in your back, you are taught how to fall correctly in Jui-Jitsu.
Jui-Jitsu was the art of the Samauri they were generally very big men.
The Essence of Jui-Jitsu is using the force or your opponent against him, the Samauri ruled Japan for thousands of years.
(The actual movements take close to no effort once they are executed properly, it is all relative to circles)
It is also the art of the deconstruction of the body in a very devastating way.
Fidelis pm me if you want details to join this club, it will get you very fit and teach you defend yourself, it saved me from many a pickle.0 -
-
Advertisement
-
-
-
-
The side kick in the knee causes a lot of damage indeed. However, as I said, you need the proper distance to deliver.
If you re being attacked in a lift ( I am not paranoid but anything can happened after all
) you won't use your side kick, and you won't use many of the impressive techniques you've learned.
The prb with Jui Jitsu (and some other martial arts) is that it teaches you what to do when your opponent attacks you in a certain way ... ex: if someone gives you a kick, grab him like this, and throw him away like that etc ..
It looks efficient cause it s done with a lot of energy but ..
Real situation is all about improvisation and very good fitness.
TD was talking about boxers. Well, to their credit I'd say that they re tought real life stuff : timing, reflex, movment, real punch (not karate like punches) and finally they insist a lot on fitness.
In other word, you may find out that your opponent was a boxer ... too late
Talking about different styles :
I remember watching UFC #2 (imported, no sensorship). I was hugely disappointed at the time to see the 7 times `world champ thai boxer destroyed by ... a judoka !
Typically, he was the best in his art, but he was facing something else.0 -
-
Originally posted by ZeFrog
TD was talking about boxers. Well, to their credit I'd say that they re tought real life stuff : timing, reflex, movment, real punch (not karate like punches) and finally they insist a lot on fitness.
In other word, you may find out that your opponent was a boxer ... too late
Don't get me wrong boxers are great fighters, more tactically then anything else I'd say though.
I think every form of fighting has something to offer and if you are good then you are good, there are universal rules I think most people (who have sparred) would agree. Arguably some arts focus more on sparring then others, but that makes the practicioners more experienced, it does not necessarily make way of art (x) better then way of art (y), if you catch my drift.
Still I would like to do Jiu Jitsu for real, but again, I think that free sparring is an important part of Martial Arts, so that you can put your techniques to practice in real situations, ad hoc, until you find out what works and what doesn't work.
If anyone knows of a Jiu Jitsu Dojo that still does free sparring I'd be interested. Maybe Judo would be a better idea. Shurg.0 -
Im gonna agree to disagree logic.
Some of your points i take and others i dont such as Break falls, Jui-Jitsu was the only one i actually learnt how to break fall.
The prb with Jui Jitsu (and some other martial arts) is that it teaches you what to do when your opponent attacks you in a certain way ... ex: if someone gives you a kick, grab him like this, and throw him away like that etc ..
It looks efficient cause it s done with a lot of energy but ..
Yup you are right, these are text book self defence techniques which are taught for the purpose of actually understanding the movement involved, for each of these techniques there is a Combat technique which allows you to adapt to almost every situation, there are only so many ways which a kick or punch can be thrown. As they say, the best method of defence can often be to attack.
Any situation i have been confronted with i have used techniques which i was taught without a problem.
Typdef, they do full contact sparing which is pretty heavy going, everything is allowed, throws, locks, puches, kicks(although as you are students a certain degree of control is required, there has been an abundance of injuries in the club but no action ever taken).
It certainly is not for the light hearted, you will learn how to destruct the human body.
Jui-Jitsu Ireland...... they have Dojos in Dublin south, Ashbourne and many places other places all over Ireland.
They are more geared towards teaching you real life situations which happen on the streets everyday rather than teaching you techniques which were used for combat for x or y reasons which only applied to x amount of years ago.
You must be 18 or over to join and you are required to have a license.
Judo comes from Jui-Jitsu and if you want to learn how to defend yourself and leave it at that its perfect for you.
Jui-Jistu will teach you how to defend yourself and then leave your attacker motionless.
Pm me if you want a phone no. and address typdef, they do not advertise as they are a profit free Organisation.(unlike many other clubs which are just in it for the money).
I think its 50 Eur for the years insurance and 4Eur per Class0 -
-
-
Advertisement
-
-
Advertisement