How can a guy get AIDS/HIV?

LegacyUser

Can you get AIDS/HIV from receiving oral sex?

and how does it work vaginally? blood or whatever goes through the head of the penis? so if while one is "unshielded" she neither bleeds nor cums its no risk?

Sleepy

Secretions from the body can transfer the virus. Whilst it's rare for a guy to catch the virus through receiving oral sex it can happen through things such as mouth ulcers/miniscule cuts etc.

Sex with someone who is HIV+/AIDS is always a massive risk, shielded or not. Condoms can rip. They're the best protection against picking up the virus but that's all they are, there's no guarantee that if you wear one you'll be fine.

Why do you ask?

Zulu

question wrote:

Can you get AIDS/HIV from receiving oral sex?

and how does it work vaginally? blood or whatever goes through the head of the penis? so if while one is "unshielded" she neither bleeds nor cums its no risk?

The head of the penis isn't covered with a thin membrain, not skin as thick as the rest of your body, same as the vaginal walls. You mightn't notice small ruptures - and can easliy contract the virus.

That being said - I'm educated in maths. I'm NOT a doctor or a biologist, so I could be VERY wrong. Please correct me people if I am.

AngryBadger

I'm pretty sure even putting this thread up violates the, this is not a medical board rule but anyway.

You can catch HIV through oral sex, yes. I am educated in biology, so take what I'm saying as gospel.

Exchange of bodily fluids is enough to transmit the virus, usually blood/genital secretions are the main carriers, there is a question mark over whether it can be transmitted through saliva or not.

As both sleepy, and Zulu have pointed out there's no way of knowing if you've picked up virus cells from sexual contact with someone, until you develop symptoms, and trademark HIV symptoms won't appear for years, the worst you'll get in the immediate future is comparable to a really bad flu, but is in fact a viral explosion.

If you've had sexual contact, get yourself checked now, there are retroviral treatments that might wipe out the virus before it takes hold, but again there's question marks all over that.

Get yourself checked. Sorry I don't have better advice, or news

Beruthiel

question wrote:

Can you get AIDS/HIV from receiving oral sex?

there is a thread stickyfied at the top of this forum of all the places you can go to get checked out, if you think you have come in contact with an STD, get checked asap - nobody in here can tell you if you have it or not!
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nads

I am too curious about this topic, i tried to broach the subject with my Biology teacher in 6th year but hesitated as i would have been taken up wrong and barracked for the rest of the year by snivelling classmates.

My query leads from the scenario:

If i transplant a dudes hand onto my handless wrist and take no anti-rejection 'pills', my body will reject the foreign hand/tissue/whatever.

If a man ejaculates in a woman's vagina/fallopian tubes/whatever, i account the absorption and non-rejection of the foreign fluids as being whatever, meiosis has to take place etc etc

If a man ejaculates in a man's anus/rectum, and presuming there's no cuts or any craic like that, how can absorption take place? How can the virus be delievered?

Chucky the tree

nads wrote:

I am too curious about this topic, i tried to broach the subject with my Biology teacher in 6th year but hesitated as i would have been taken up wrong and barracked for the rest of the year by snivelling classmates.

My query leads from the scenario:

If i transplant a dudes hand onto my handless wrist and take no anti-rejection 'pills', my body will reject the foreign hand/tissue/whatever.

If a man ejaculates in a woman's vagina/fallopian tubes/whatever, i account the absorption and non-rejection of the foreign fluids as being whatever, meiosis has to take place etc etc

If a man ejaculates in a man's anus/rectum, and presuming there's no cuts or any craic like that, how can absorption take place? How can the virus be delievered?

best bet it to ask this is the medical forum

Zulu

nads wrote:

If a man ejaculates in a man's anus/rectum, and presuming there's no cuts or any craic like that, how can absorption take place? How can the virus be delievered?

Well that assumption can't be made.
The anal walls are very thin, and rupture VERY easily.

Also - osmosis?

Victor

Can you get AIDS/HIV from receiving oral sex?

Yes, it works both (or all four) ways.

and how does it work vaginally? blood or whatever goes through the head of the penis? so if while one is "unshielded" she neither bleeds nor cums its no risk?

Semen carries HIV. Throughout sex, a man is constantly releasing small amounts of semen, so right from the get go there is a risk. The wall of the man's glan (the head of the penis) and a woman's penis are quite thin so no actual bleeding need occur.

HIV has passed mouth-mouth in at least one documented case (and presumebaly other undocumented cases), although it did involve severe gum disease.

As best I know, HIV levels in semen is higher than in blood and saliva, so ejaculating in someone's mouth is a complete no-no (it can be fairly rude aswell). You invariably have a cut somewhere in your mouth from your teeth, sharp food (e.g. bread crust), toothbrush, etc.

If you are giving someone oral sex, which usually lasts at least a few minutes, there is prolonged contract between body fluids.

nads wrote:

If a man ejaculates in a man's anus/rectum, and presuming there's no cuts or any craic like that, how can absorption take place? How can the virus be delievered?

The likelyhood of having *no* cuts after anal sex is negligible. Many people get piles (varicose veins in the rectum) which bleed very easily.

Anyway, the linings of the diegtive tract are quite porous, although I'm not sure how porous they are at anus / rectum / colon stage.

AngryBadger

nads wrote:

If a man ejaculates in a woman's vagina/fallopian tubes/whatever, i account the absorption and non-rejection of the foreign fluids as being whatever, meiosis has to take place etc etc

The HIV virus is not human tissue, the human tissue/fluid simply acts as a carrier for the virus. Further to which, the cells which would normally be involved in foreign tissue rejection, are the cells which are specifically targeted by the HIV virus. In other words, the macrophage cells which wouldnormally attack, ingest, and destroy invading pathogens, are in fact themselves infacted by the virus, then as these move back into the lymph system they permit further invasion of the lymph tissue by the virus.

Gordon

Actually i think this is more of a biological question.

Moved from PI.

GuanYin

Basically there are three types of cells that the HIV virus may infect through. CD4+ T-cells, macrophages and Langerhan's cells. In terms of sexual encounters (oral, anal and vaginal) its the antigen presenting cells (cells that sample antigens to provoke immune responses) known as Langerhan's that are the main route of infection (for men and women, although the other cells are present and at risk too). These exist in abundance in the male forskin (which is why circumcized men are statistically less likely to be infected (but still at VERY high risk through unprotected sex).

These cells exist epidermal and mucosal epithelial surfaces (skin, mucous membranes).

Its worth noting, that as these cells are on the external membrane, no cuts or tears are required, they may enter directly from secretions.

If cuts or tears are present then the chances of infection are significantly increased.

Capt'n Midnight

BTW re: adsorption/rejection etc. Most foreign viruses are recognised by the immune system by their coatings which can generate an immune response. In the case of HIV the outer coating changes do the immune response may not be targeted accuratley and the virus also hides inside the cells of the immune system.

I've heard that you can't pick up AIDS off a toilet seat
but you can pick up hepatitus. Is this true ?

spiritalien

question wrote:

Can you get AIDS/HIV from receiving oral sex?

Well, I got it from sex!

I was pretty wild back then