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Alternative to Dell?

  • 11-08-2004 11:49am
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,478 ✭✭✭


    I have been charged with selecting a PC for a friend.

    €1200, 17 inch TFT, games, web design etc)

    Building it myself for them is not an option as his parents would prefer to buy prebuilt from a known retailer (I know, I know :rolleyes: )

    Problem is where to buy...

    Dell are a rip off, period (+€400 for 17 inch flat panel upgrade, no firewire as standard, crap gfx card etc).

    Jes computer is not so bad but have a limited range and no customisation (not essential if the PC is right).

    Any suggestions?

    tribble


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,161 ✭✭✭steve-hosting36




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,161 ✭✭✭steve-hosting36




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,478 ✭✭✭tribble


    Thank you for visiting The Computer City web site. We are a trade PC builder located in Dublin, Ireland. This web site is now updated every day. As we are a trade supplier we only supply to computer companies who are selling onwards and have their own in-house technical support
    ,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,111 ✭✭✭tba


    set up your own company then order from yourself.

    http://www.tribblecomputers.ie


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,584 ✭✭✭✭Creamy Goodness


    you're gonna find it hard to get a prebuilt machine with a 17inch tft with low response times enough for games and to top it off the budget doesn't help


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,688 ✭✭✭grimloch


    thing is from my experience the places that build them for you ie. jes.de arent really ''known retailers'' all the package computer companies have simliar prices but have you tried TINY?

    i saw an ad of theirs in the paper a while ago and it was a good package computer SATA, a good gfx one of those pentiums with a 1mb cache and screen etc. i believe it fell in with that 1200 price limit too

    cant hurt to look dunno know the site though


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,942 ✭✭✭Mac daddy


    see here It is full of suppliers- check out jaguar! link is in there somewere ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,478 ✭✭✭tribble


    Mac daddy wrote:
    see here It is full of suppliers- check out jaguar! link is in there somewere ;)
    yeah - i've been looking all morning, including that thread.

    I know the budget is a bit tight.

    TBH - I have a 17inch samsng 24ms and it's fine for games and movies.

    Checking out Tiny as we, eh, speak..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,225 ✭✭✭Ciaran500


    Stay away from Tiny. I have NEVER heard a remotly good story about their pc's. They use the cheapest parts they can get and give no after market sales!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,161 ✭✭✭steve-hosting36


    How about:

    P4 3.0
    120GB
    17"LCD (http://www.aoc-europe.com/monitors_lm729.html)
    52x
    SC
    256MB
    XP Home


    Built by ccity for €999.95 inc vat./


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,713 ✭✭✭✭jor el


    tribble wrote:
    I have been charged with selecting a PC for a friend.

    €1200, 17 inch TFT, games, web design etc)

    Building it myself for them is not an option as his parents would prefer to buy prebuilt from a known retailer (I know, I know :rolleyes: )
    tribble
    Impress upon them how much of a waste of money it is to buy from the big retailers like Dell/PC World etc and tell them the only real alternative is to custom build. If not, you can't help them. It's funny, someone comes to you for advice on computers because you know a lot about that sort of stuff but then won't take you advice because they prefer to buy from a known ripoff merchant :rolleyes:
    You could look at www.marx-computers.com They'll do custom build on decent games PCs at good prices. Is TFT a requirement or do they just want to keep up with the Jonses? I'd say buy a 19" or 21" CRT would be a better spend of money.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,219 ✭✭✭Redrocket


    stay away from jaguar, they are handy if you live beside them but are expensive and dont give any specifics on their parts


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,299 ✭✭✭✭BloodBath


    Here's a great system for 1100.

    http://www.jes-computer.de/product_info.php?pID=17364

    The OS will be in german though and the keyboard will have a german layout but it's easy to get used to. The keyboard that is. They have another one with 2 x 200gb hd's for 1200.

    You would still have to get a monitor though but that system is top notch.


    BloodBath


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,264 ✭✭✭RicardoSmith


    How about Alienware? Some of the UK makers like Eversham Vale, Mesh will deliver to Ireland. Generally they have better spec than a Dell, HP or Siemens. If you want the least amount of hassle, adn its not your money, just order the Dell.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,478 ✭✭✭tribble


    Where's my post gone?

    Yeah, I'm meeting him today.
    Basically I'll tell him the truth.

    You can't get a decent system with a 17inch TFT for 1200.
    (unless you build it youself)

    A 15inch TFT or a 17/19 ich CRT will have to do.

    Thanks Lads.

    tribblr


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,161 ✭✭✭steve-hosting36


    What about the ccity one? A 3Ghz HT P4 with a 17" tft for a grand?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,956 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    Buy an issue of Computer Buyer or PC Pro and look at the different suppliers.
    There are some great deals to be found in the Labs sections as the manufacturers often supply below cost machines to attract business.
    Have a look at
    Mesh (Delivery to Ireland is very high though)
    www.nethighstreet.com
    or www.savastore.com


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 3,816 Mod ✭✭✭✭LFCFan


    I've had a few people asking me advice about getting a new PC and when I suggest building it for them they say they want if from the likes of Dell etc. Why bother asking then :mad:


  • Moderators Posts: 5,580 ✭✭✭Azza


    Lol when will parents learn. For that I would buy them a Dell but I would stick a Linux Distrabution on it instead of windows :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,264 ✭✭✭RicardoSmith


    Let them buy a Dell and stick the tech support number in big numbers on the computer somewhere. Save you 2 years of stupid questions.


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