My call

cormie

What do you guys think of when I said I saw the card dealt to the guy to my right? I did it out of fairness and honesty. I would have had the advantage. I said it the minute I saw it and I didn't see my cards. It would have been a crazy hand and could have changed the game around a bit. AA QQ and AK were dealt. I felt kinda bad but felt it was the right thing to do.

I'm still peed off I peed off to pee and missed my bullets.

MrPudding

Personally I feel it is right and proper to speak up if you see a card. You did the right thing. I would and have done the same thing. I have a real issue with cheating, seeing someones card and not mentioning it is like cheating IMO.

I do not understand the last line of your post.

MrP

Marq

Cormie, you were dead right to announce it. What happened next was really unfortunate. I said "you'll have to give it back" and someone threw over their cards in disgust (not just one person, but three). thing was, i only wanted the exposed card, as any card that is exposed on the second round of dealing can be replaced by either the third card from the bottom or the first burn card. I was deliberating in my head over what to do, as I was considering taking off the flop, turn and river, and the burn cards, and then reshuffling the whole deck with the exposed card in it. Dealing one card to the player and then putting the flop turn and river back on top to deal em out. Unfortunately, people are very eager to throw in their cards. It's the dealers fault if a card is exposed, but as with many situations I've encountered, unpatient players compound the problem. I felt very sorry for brendan, who had the pair of ones and would have been almost guaranteed a near triple through, what with the queens and AK in play. That's poker though.

Krusty_Clown

It was a good honest call. I'm glad it happened (being the recipient of the AK ) but fair dues to you for calling it..

About those bullets during your toilet trip (?), maybe you shouldn't drink as much water.. :cool:

Congrats on the money btw..

MrPudding

Marq wrote:

I was deliberating in my head over what to do, as I was considering taking off the flop, turn and river, and the burn cards, and then reshuffling the whole deck with the exposed card in it. Dealing one card to the player and then putting the flop turn and river back on top to deal em out.

No offense meant, but I don't think that is your call to make. If there is any confusion or potential for agro you should call for a ruling. I am not calling into question your ability or knowledge, but issues like that should be dealt with by the tournie director. Exposed cards are easy, there is a set procedure. But if you are thinking about lifting cards off the table and reshuffling them you need to seek a ruling. I think.

MrP

careca

Who won the event ? Well organised again lads. Good turnout. I got about 5 good hands all night and each time amp had five better hands. :mad: Demoralised, I reraised all in with A10 (bad play but I just didn't give a **** at that stage) and walked into pocket rockets.

kipple

There was a deal made between the final four. I was chip leader and got 700.

T.

careca

Nice one Kipple. Who were the other three ??

Krusty_Clown

I came second (made it to the final table two months running!)..
Cormie shared 3rd with someone else..

BTW Kipple, how many chips did you finish up with? Oh, and congrats on the win, it was tough going towards the end..

careca

Well done K_C. Glad for Cormie, his €8 bank balance has been adjusted so !!!
Just rewards for not selling his Fitz €270 ticket.

Marq

MrP, you're dead right. I most likely would have called for a ruling in that situation, but there was no opportunity to even get that far as people had tossed or exposed their hands before there was a chance.

DeVore

If people tossed their hands over:
a. They dont know poker or are quite dumb.
b. They caused the problem, not the exposed card or Cormie.

Two nights ago at the final table of the 20-in I saw one of Vivians cards and mucked my hand (K10, UTG) and told them. They all seemed to think it was ok for me to say nothing and continue on.... personally I consider it cheating to continue to play the hand if you have glanced at your opponents cards but I understand that others dont. That time was a bit harsh as it was just the way Viv was holding his cards that showed them to me. Personally, I'll always call it.

DeV.

kipple

I think I had over 50K in Chips at the end.

The play between the last 4 was very good and I didnt see very many mistakes been made. The chip leader changed a couple of times. Overall it was very enjoyable, well done to the organisers.

I was getting very tired and so was the first one to call for a deal.


T.

Krusty_Clown

Devore: They all seemed to think it was ok for me to say nothing and continue on.... personally I consider it cheating to continue to play the hand if you have glanced at your opponents cards

I was on the wrong side of a similar situation recently.. In this instance I played on, but regretted it immediately afterwards.. I got caught up in the heat of the moment and played on... Was it wrong? Absolutely. Was it cheating? Yes... Would I be as honest as Cormie and yourself if it happened again? I'd certainly like to think so..

Lafortezza

cormie wrote:

What do you guys think of when I said I saw the card dealt to the guy to my right?

Was it the dealers fault that the card flipped up? If so then it should have been replaced by the 3rd card from the bottom and fair play to you for being honest and announcing it.

But if it was the players own fault that you saw by not protecting his hand then thats tough. You're under no obligation to say you saw one of his cards. You could tell him after the hand to guard his cards more carefully but its his own fault really.

Marq

Cormie caught a glance of the card as it was being dealt. Card was not exposed to everyone at the table, just Cormie. Dealer's fault.

Iago

I was the other player, wanted to play on but had to be up at 5.45 for work so thought it best to accept and negoitiate a deal...

it was a good night and the play got progessively tighter at the final table, probably would have went on for another couple of hours if we hadn't stopped when we did.

Cormie made the right call, particularily considering that it was like playing in a mate's house rather than a fitz free for all

Davey Devil

I'd also like to add my thanks for last night's tourney, well done to all involved in the organisation. Eh don't mean to be a minger but someone owes me €20 for my Aces full of Jacks, do you remember that hand Tom

cormie

Yeah, thanks for the game guys. Probably one of the best nights of poker that wasn't a home game. The last 4. I would have loved to have played on. Two more would have had to be knocked out for me to get more than what we dealed on, and with me being 2nd lowest in chips and the blinds getting quite high and to a dominatory stage, with the bonus of being up at 7 the next morning (7.44 I woke up sh!tttt) haha, I thought a deal would be ok.

Krusty, I lifted my head in angst and sighed a quiet angry "fu*k" about 5 times today thinking about your K5 bluff on me. Nice. I folded that way too quickly. I didn't even look at you, I didn't do anything to try and give me a read on you, I just folded. Stupid! If I had called that, which I probably would have if I waited a few more seconds for thoughts, I would have been in a much better position. So peed off with myself for folding. Well done to Iago, yourself and Kipple though.

Krusty_Clown

I figured an all-in call would put you off your hand.
I was getting tired of your 10k thievery , so I figured I'd put you to the test, and see if you'd risk all your chips for your middling hand.

Yeah, you would have been in a very strong position if you'd called.
Should'a, would'a, could'a.

cormie

Thievery? When? That's really going to haunt me for a while. The more I think about it, the more I should have called. You got me though. Good one.

kipple

The last 4. I would have loved to have played on.

I could tell that you wanted to keep playing but I was tired and happy to go home to bed and it could have gone on for another hour. I did enjoy the play on the last table a lot.

Krusty, I lifted my head in angst and sighed a quiet angry "fu*k" about 5 times today thinking about your K5 bluff on me.

It was a nice move. I was surprised you folded as IIRC the pot was large before the all in.

T.

Marq

What was Krusty holding when he bluffed you off the pot?

Krusty_Clown

K5s, with no matches on the flop.
Cormie had just raised 10k post-flop.

So, go-on, what'd you have? :eek:

cormie

All I was thinking at the time was if I call I could get knocked out and only get €200. Pot size didn't really matter to me as I had enough left to keep playing.

Unfortunately my initial thoughts made my decision but if I had thought about it more I probably would have made a lovely call. I was ahead, but not by much.

cormie

just out of curiousity, who gave me a bad reputation point for this post and why?

MrPudding

All I can say is it was not me. Off the top of my head though I could give you maby 12 suspects

DeVore

It should tell you in your UserCp.

DeV.

Davey Devil

You must have a super User CP DeV. Us mere mortals can only see what thread the possitve or negitive points came from and a comment if they choose to leave one. Don't think you can find out who did it unless they leave their name name in the comment.

gerire

Whats this reputation points stuff anyway, and who pays attention to it or who cares about it?

kencleary

gerire wrote:

Whats this reputation points stuff anyway, and who pays attention to it or who cares about it?

Well you're getting -1 reputation point for that post anyway

TwoShedsJackson

Davey Devil wrote:

You must have a super User CP DeV. Us mere mortals can only see what thread the possitve or negitive points came from and a comment if they choose to leave one. Don't think you can find out who did it unless they leave their name name in the comment.

Never heard of this until now, ahh someone gave me a plus point fo rmy oh so helpful cut and paste of someone else's tweaks for Doom 3 And a neutral one for explaining where my nick came from :eek:

DeVore

I must have a different one alright, I can see the names of the people who assign reputation to me. (**FEAR**)

I dunno why everyone cares about this at all, you can opt out of the system if you want to (but then you cant assign reputation points yourself).

See my sig for details on my views of currying favour with others

DeV.

Iago

-1 for you Dev, just so you don't think I'm currying favour

cormie

I'd just like to know really. It's interesting. I'm +15 anyway so it's not all that bad. But whoever gave me a knock for this thread. Please explain why.

Hyzepher

'Life' and 'Get a' spring to mind

hyzepher

DeVore

yeah I wouldnt be particularly concerned. The way it works is that you have to have reputation to be able to give +/- points. If someone with very high reputation (say me) gives someone with no reputation (say Iago) a bad rep it sends them spiralling to negative reputation. Whereas if Iago gives me negative points, its like a fly smashing into a truck doing 60. Kinda like his poker play too...

Its handy for sales forums. Otherwise I'd just ignore it.

DeV.

cormie

Hyzepher wrote:

'Life' and 'Get a' spring to mind

hyzepher

I could suggest the same to you making such an extraneous reply conveying the impression you have nothing better to do. Why bother?

Yes, it would be handy for sales forums. But it's nice to know either way.

Hyzepher

cormie wrote:

I could suggest the same to you making such an extraneous reply conveying the impression you have nothing better to do. Why bother?

Maybe your 'own' reputation has gone to your head if you assume that my comment was directed at you.

Hyzepher

DapperGent

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to cormie again.

Rats.

Marq

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to cormie again.

I'm trying, I'm trying...

Hyzepher

Locked due to major off-topic ramblings

Hyzepher