Bittorrent

L5

Getting very very slow torrent speeds, am i doing this right?
bittorrent uses ports 6881-6999 as default, so i have forwarded these ports in my router configuration. I have entered my ipaddress in the port forwarding section as 192.168.1.33 Is this the correct address to enter? Thats all ive done, am i missing doing anything?

Thanks a lot

Redrocket

go to start -> run -> type cmd, in the command prompt type ipconfig
make sure your forwarding to your own address in router

aidan_walsh

Are you the only machine connected to the router? If so, change the IP to 192.168.1.1.

There are many things that BT takes into consideration when speeds are worked on. First of all, it depends on the number of peers you are able to connect to. These are the machines that you are downloading the files off of. Unlike P2P, BT connects to a number of machines at the same time, the more machines with different parts of the file available, the faster the download.

Secondly, a network connection is only as fast as its slowest link. If you have any background processes down or uploading while running, this is going to take from your speed. Also, this might not be your fault, as any point in the connection between you and your peers is suseptable to lag. Once again, the more peers, the better.

Finally, BT is designed to ensure that users don't get greedy. In order to achieve a good download rating, you also have to be uploading or hosting files. After you get BT initially, you are going to have poor speeds, but the more you download, the more you can upload, and therefore get a higher download rating, thus higher priority on the tracker software. More can be found out about this at the BitTorrent homepage

jesus_thats_gre

I am connected to something like 100 peers out of 27000 and am only downloading at an average of 6 kb/sec.. It does up to 20kb odd every now and again but always drops down after a while... Tis sucks...

RobertFoster

L5 wrote:

Getting very very slow torrent speeds, am i doing this right?
bittorrent uses ports 6881-6999 as default, so i have forwarded these ports in my router configuration. I have entered my ipaddress in the port forwarding section as 192.168.1.33 Is this the correct address to enter? Thats all ive done, am i missing doing anything?

Thanks a lot

you seem to be trying to do the same thing as me - where is the port forwarding in the configuration? I went advanced > NAT > sua only > edit details...?

Robbo

Perhaps this problem is now deserving of a sticky, since it seems to crop up a couple of times every week these days?

Stephen

Sounds like you're downloading Doom3. tut tut!

Think about it 100 seeds, and 27000 peers - i.e. 27000 people trying to download from 100 - its going to be slow until you get a better ratio of seeds to peers.

jesus_thats_gre

Anyone got a guide for D-Link routers?

RobertFoster

jesus_thats_gre wrote:

Anyone got a guide for D-Link routers?

This page has a few walkthroughs.

RobertFoster wrote:

advanced > NAT > sua only > edit details

Just to point out, I did that and am now getting a green smilie with Azureus.

Giblet

Stephen wrote:

Sounds like you're downloading Doom3. tut tut!

Think about it 100 seeds, and 27000 peers - i.e. 27000 people trying to download from 100 - its going to be slow until you get a better ratio of seeds to peers.

BT doesn't work like that, it's a hierarchy, you'd be downloading off someone with more that you and not the seeder.

Warez are bad mmmkay, I'm sure he is using it for downloading the latest linux binaries AM I RIGHT

Mutant_Fruit

Stephen wrote:

Think about it 100 seeds, and 27000 peers - i.e. 27000 people trying to download from 100 - its going to be slow until you get a better ratio of seeds to peers.

No, don't think of it like that.

Think of it like there are 27100 people out there that you can connect to, but that amount of people are killing the server, thus connections are probably being handed out very slowly.

With Bitorrent, the more people the better, 100 seeds is more than enough to pass around the file. Hell, if they are all have 128k upload, they can upload 1.71gb's in about 33 mins. Thats 2 whole copies uploaded every hour. So within two hours, there would be well over 200 distributed copies i'd say...

My advice is just stick with it, the server is just overloaded.

jesus_thats_gre

Giblet wrote:

BT doesn't work like that, it's a hierarchy, you'd be downloading off someone with more that you and not the seeder.

Warez are bad mmmkay, I'm sure he is using it for downloading the latest linux binaries AM I RIGHT

Not gonna lie about it... I am downloading porn :eek:

I checked Azeurus and its says the total speed on the torrent is 4.7mb/s if that means anything.....

Clover

jesus_thats_gre wrote:

Not gonna lie about it... I am downloading porn :eek:

sure what else would you use BT for ?

jesus_thats_gre

Ok have two torrents open. As below

Torrent 1 - Seeds: 33(2382) Peers: 239(26617)
Torrent 2 - Seeds: 59(1890) Peers: 174(12666)

I am downloading at an average of 5kb/sec on both.. Both torrents have the green icon saying both are connected properly.. I should be getting more surely. They spike to 20kb/sec for short periods also.

Chalk

hes connected to 100 peers in a swarm of 27000
how many seeds have you got in your swarm and whats the distribution of the torrent?
check what percentage the other seeds have, you may be at the limit of distribution in your swarm.
also if you have a yellow light your NAT isnt configured as your nopt acepting incoming connections.
this in turn lead to you being snubbed as you ignore other users requests for pieces.

www.portforward.com is what you might ned to look at

Chalk

seen your new post there.

think about it 33seeds distributing to 239 peers in your swarm, theres not much to go round, as you make connections with other peers it will build up as they offer you pieces in return for pieces you give to them

Mutant_Fruit

think about it 33seeds distributing to 239 peers in your swarm, theres not much to go round, as you make

Thats loads to go around.

If each of the 33 seeds sends pieces 1-33 to 33 other people, that means instantly there are 33 people with bits you don't have, and 33 people with the whole file. Repeat again, and you have 66 people with bits you don't have, and the origional 33 (of got chunks 1-33) will have moved those on to 33 others, so there would be in total over 99 people with chunks. Then 10 minutes later, each seed will have uploaded at least 10 chunks, meaning there are over 1000 chunks lying around between all 270 people... thats loads...

I assume the server is just maxing out, and is passing on BT information very slowly to clients/seeders.

jesus_thats_gre

Mutant_Fruit wrote:

I assume the server is just maxing out, and is passing on BT information very slowly to clients/seeders.

Any ideas how to get around that.. I am stressed like

Mutant_Fruit

jesus_thats_gre wrote:

Any ideas how to get around that.. I am stressed like

Buy them a bigger badder server Other than that, try and find the file on a different tracker, which is less overburdened.

Or go to bed, and it'll be done by morning

jesus_thats_gre

Mutant_Fruit wrote:

Or go to bed, and it'll be done by morning

Plan was to get it tonight and not go to bed

Mutant_Fruit

jesus_thats_gre wrote:

Plan was to get it tonight and not go to bed

same here, but thats not going to happen. Only 30% done on my file, after about 10 hours

Exterminator

im uploading 3 times as much as im downloading (which is funny cos ive nothing in my shared folder). where do I change my settings, what do I change them to? Should i be doing anything to be getting the most out of broadband? Sometimes im uploading 10kb and downloading 0kb!?

jesus_thats_gre

Exterminator wrote:

im uploading 3 times as much as im downloading (which is funny cos ive nothing in my shared folder). where do I change my settings, what do I change them to? Should i be doing anything to be getting the most out of broadband? Sometimes im uploading 10kb and downloading 0kb!?

Limit the upload using an NetLimiter

Mutant_Fruit

Exterminator wrote:

im uploading 3 times as much as im downloading (which is funny cos ive nothing in my shared folder). where do I change my settings, what do I change them to? Should i be doing anything to be getting the most out of broadband? Sometimes im uploading 10kb and downloading 0kb!?

For best results you should limit your upload to 60-70% of your max upload. Bittorrent works by rewarding people who upload by ghiving them more download connections. If you don't upload, people will "snub" you, meaning they won't give you connections, meaning you will get a really slow download.

Alteratively, if you are uploading at 95% of your max upload, you will saturate your connection, and you won't be able to download that fast, as you are uploading too fast.

Each file in a torrent is seperated into little sections by the program as it uploads. As each section is downloaded, it becomes "shared". This means everyone gets faster downloads.

Person A seeds a brand new file. 100 people want it. Person A sends piece 1 to person B and piece 2 to person C. Then, person A sends two different pieces to two different people, while person A and B send the first two pieces to other people, etc etc. This means that by the time Person A sends each chunk out once, EVERYONE has at least 98% of the file. Thats the beauty of uploading the pieces as you recieve them.

davil

Still getting between 2+4k/sec download while uploading constantly around 10
I am on 512/128 with Esat/IOLBB

Questions -
1. I have set up my NAT to port forward (6881-6999) to my static ip address on my nic of 192.168.1.2 - is this correct or should I set it to IP address given to me by my ISP??
2. Do you need more peers to get a higher download rate, ie. if there's loads of seeds and no peers do I get anything?
3. if my upload rate should be between 60+70%, is that divided by the number of max uploads or something.... I can't set max uploads any lower than 4 - I can presumably only upload a max of 32KB/sec so I should get 70% of that and divide it by 4??????

Nobody seems to be able to help me on this problem.. what the hell am I doing wrong??????




as you can see I'm using the BitTornado client and I've set up the command line parameters to my current ISP-assigned IP address.....I'm about to go mental

Syth

davil I think it may be a port forwarding/NAT problem. For the pic you posted, you can see that all the other people you're connected to have L's beside them. I had a similar problem, and was getting tiny speeds. If everything is hooked up right there should be some R's in there too.

davil wrote:

1. I have set up my NAT to port forward (6881-6999) to my static ip address on my nic of 192.168.1.2 - is this correct or should I set it to IP address given to me by my ISP??

No, 192.168.1.2 is correct.

suppafly

i use bit tornado too and i always have that yellow light. i never goes green. I'm using the netopia cayman router that come with eircom. can anybody tell me whats the ip address that u need to use to go and use the online configuration tool cuz i can't remember it. any other help is also appreciated

Syth

suppafly wrote:

i use bit tornado too and i always have that yellow light. i never goes green. I'm using the netopia cayman router that come with eircom. can anybody tell me whats the ip address that u need to use to go and use the online configuration tool cuz i can't remember it. any other help is also appreciated

I'm an IOL customer, so I can't tell you exactly, but it's probably somehting like 192.168.1.1, or 198.168.1.2, or 192.168.1.3 etc.

You could try traceing the route to some website (boards for example), and see what the first entry is. Tracerouting just gets you computer to print out the path from computer to computer the route over the internet to a certain machine. The first thing it must go through is your router, so that'll be the first entry.
Mine looks like this:

[~]$ traceroute boards.ie
traceroute to boards.ie (82.195.131.128), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets
 1  192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1)  9.595 ms  4.392 ms  0.788 ms

So that means the IP of my router is 192.168.1.1.

I'm using GNU/Linux, so the programme traceroute is supplied by default. If you're using Windows you'd probably have to download it or something.

OfflerCrocGod

The new versions of bittornado have changed ports to 10000 to 15000 or some such numbers hit advanced or options and change the ports to 6 whatever to 7000, is the light green or yellow? It will be green if it is working properly.

Tusky

I couldnt get bittorrent working for a long long time , I had tried forwarding many ports etc.

I got it working recently when I forwarded ports 10,000 - 60,000 which is the new default in bit tornado!!!

Tusky

davil wrote:

Still getting between 2+4k/sec download while uploading constantly around 10
I am on 512/128 with Esat/IOLBB

Questions -
1. I have set up my NAT to port forward (6881-6999) to my static ip address on my nic of 192.168.1.2 - is this correct or should I set it to IP address given to me by my ISP??
2. Do you need more peers to get a higher download rate, ie. if there's loads of seeds and no peers do I get anything?
3. if my upload rate should be between 60+70%, is that divided by the number of max uploads or something.... I can't set max uploads any lower than 4 - I can presumably only upload a max of 32KB/sec so I should get 70% of that and divide it by 4??????

Nobody seems to be able to help me on this problem.. what the hell am I doing wrong??????




as you can see I'm using the BitTornado client and I've set up the command line parameters to my current ISP-assigned IP address.....I'm about to go mental

AFAIK Bittornado uses ports 10,000-60,000....

davil

That sounds like a lot of ports but I'll give it a try thanks lads.

jonnycage

I am a complete novice to BT, and need some help please. I have a zyxlem router and desperately want to start downloading from torrent bits. Just wondering is there anywhere I can get a simple step-by-step guide. I have downloaded azureus and cannot download. I know what port to download from 6969 but still when trying to configure azureus i get error. "Testing port 6969...... Unable to test because listening port is allready in use. Please stop all active torrents and reload.........". Any Advice...........????? :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

Giblet

6969 is the port the tracker uses, not what BT downloads on.

Krusty_Clown

suppafly wrote:

i use bit tornado too and i always have that yellow light. i never goes green. I'm using the netopia cayman router that come with eircom. can anybody tell me whats the ip address that u need to use to go and use the online configuration tool cuz i can't remember it. any other help is also appreciated

Make sure you're permitting the port through your firewall and your router's NAT adressing. So the three things you need to check are:
1) In your Bit Torrent client check which ports you have enabled the client to use (BitTornado - Check the [Advanced] dialog box) - Limit this to a couple of ports to save you hassle in the next two steps - don't use ports that are typically allocated to other applications
2) On your router, make sure that these ports are forwarded to your local IP address.
3) Make sure in your firewall software that these ports are forwarded to your IP address.

If you don't know how to do these tasks, read the Bit Torrent FAQs:
http://dessent.net/btfaq
http://www.portforward.com

kmb

Total novice here..but i have a question on bitorrent.

Where is the upload taking info from if i am just stared using it?

Does it scan my computer and upload what people want?How secure is my info?

i have downloaded 45mbs but uploaded 98mbs!!!!

help!!


regds kieran

aidan_walsh

If you started downloading, its only uploading what ou've already downloaded.
If you're hosting a file or directory, its only uploading whats in that directory, or that file. It can't break that scope.

kmb

Great,thanks for the prompt reply.Getting nervous there.So i would have to create a folder and upload it otherwise i am secure.

Thanks again,
kieran

aidan_walsh

Only if you want to host files of your own, otherwise download away, and remember to leave the torrent open when the download is complete.

degsie

I've just discovered this thing called uPNP which some bittorrent clients support and the Xyplex router from esatbt also supports. Basically it automaticly configures your router to forward ports specified in your bt client so there is nothing to touch on your router (apart from enabling upnp). This worked a treat for me when I encountered problems with the azurus(?) client. Now it's green smilies and fast g=downloads all the way

eirebhoy

I was originally forwarding ports 6881-6889 and I had 192.168.1.33 (my IP address) as the IP address. I was only getting speeds of around 6kbps. The other day I changed it to 6881-6999 and changed the IP address to 192.168.1.1 and now I'm getting average speeds of 40-50.

Matt Simis

degsie wrote:

I've just discovered this thing called uPNP which some bittorrent clients support and the Xyplex router from esatbt also supports. Basically it automaticly configures your router to forward ports specified in your bt client so there is nothing to touch on your router (apart from enabling upnp). This worked a treat for me when I encountered problems with the azurus(?) client. Now it's green smilies and fast g=downloads all the way

Oddly enabling uPNP on my Router and Azurus stops it transferring anything, despite all the "port open successful" messages. Still trying to get more speed out of this..



Matt