Thinking about starting Judo, any advice?

Syth

Hi all. I'm thinking of starting Judo. I did Aikido in college for a few months. I found it interesting and I'll probably keep it up. But it takes a while before you can use it. (Though honest to god, I've used ukemi after falling a few times.) The reason I'm thinking judo is beacuse it's kinda like aikido (right?), I'm not a great fan of the punching and kicking martial arts, not really for me. Any advice on clubs? I live in south dublin (as far south as you can get).

paddyc

Syth

judo is excellent, I took it up a few years ago before thai boxing came to Dublin, it gives you a great base for MA. Theres no **** with it and you get to fight lots which is important if thats what you are into.

I was at Ciaran Foleys in Coolmines sports centre and he was 40 and was the Masters Judo champion. I have also heard many people recommend him since that, in fact i might actually start back with him soon as well.

I know coolmine is far for you but you have to travel to get good clubs, cos the one on your door step might be run by a cowboy

any ways give it a lash

paddy

Esel

Can't believe this thread has the only mention of Aikido on entire Boards site!
IMHO it is excellent - 'Use the attacker's force against themselves'.

Just for the record, I must warn you that I know Aikido, Judo, Jujitsu, Karate, Kendo, Kenpo, Ninjitsu and a few other Japanese words.

I also have a black belt on Origami, and frquently perform Cha No Oyu (just about to do this now, actually).

Naos

Cha No Oyu - tea pouring ceremony ? Not near anybooks and cant remmeber.. tis my only guess.

PaddyC where do you do your Thai boxing? Be interested in that. I do JiuJitsu down at coolmine, that and the Judo club usually do very well in comps..

Runfree

Hmmmm Origami aint that the folder paper thingy.
But staying on topic I don't know much about Judo but as mentioned aswell Aikido does use the attackers force against himself. It can have great effect when I was studying Kenpo-jujitsu. Got throw over 10 feet at one occasion(although I do have to admit it hurt quite a bit but it was worth it. Looked like one of the Steven Seagal movies where he hurdles the guy through the air).
Well have to get into the MA again.

Naos

Runfree wrote:

Hmmmm Origami aint that the folder paper thingy.
But staying on topic I don't know much about Judo but as mentioned aswell Aikido does use the attackers force against himself. It can have great effect when I was studying Kenpo-jujitsu. Got throw over 10 feet at one occasion(although I do have to admit it hurt quite a bit but it was worth it. Looked like one of the Steven Seagal movies where he hurdles the guy through the air).
Well have to get into the MA again.

yeh origami is the paper folding thing. But still an art. And if you master an art, then that is the essence of kung fu. There is an aincent story about it, dunno should i bother write it up lol, prob if i get bored ..

anyway, 10 feet in the air.. what type of throw was this exactly. And 10 ft in the air is differnt than being thrown and rolling ten feet, or stumbling ten feet, so please explain more..

paddyc

Mear I helped start the bridgestone gym

www.bridgestonemuaythai.com


moved back to Belfast and moving back now to fight again out of it. I was training in the judo cos it easy to learn theres no real techniques, that suit my learning, cos i aint too good with sequential learning patterns, so I liked it but thai will always be no 1 for me.

the gym is good very good in fact, tha main man is Paul Kelly, theres a fight night on the 21 aug so you will get a better ides then whats happening.


post any questions and I try to reply.

paddy

Naos

erm, yeh i've a question. How come u never answered my previous question of this 10ft throw? And Im planning on heading down to the Fight night, so i'll be checking that scene out..

columok

Mear:

Having studied Aikido for years, and left for MMA since youll find lots of people that believe that they were thrown "10 ft." or more. The reality is that they cooperated and threw themselves but made themselves believe what they wanted to believe. You dont find this in Alive arts.

Also I have found on this forum, when you try to challenge people on things that they have said they dont repost and disappear for a while. Ah well!

Runfree

Mear wrote:

yeh origami is the paper folding thing. But still an art. And if you master an art, then that is the essence of kung fu. There is an aincent story about it, dunno should i bother write it up lol, prob if i get bored ..

anyway, 10 feet in the air.. what type of throw was this exactly. And 10 ft in the air is differnt than being thrown and rolling ten feet, or stumbling ten feet, so please explain more..

Ah no it was a throw and roll as part of the breakfall. Can't remember what the name of the throw is as I haven't been practising for about 6 months now

But I suppose it felt much bigger then it really was as columok points out aswel. However if I remember what it was then I will tell you.

columok

Can't remember what the name of the throw is as I haven't been practising for about 6 months now

Perhaps:

Kokyu-Nage
Irimi-Nage
Tenchi-Nage

wouldnt imagine it would be any others.

Esel

Probably the reason it seemed like 10' was because you 'go with the throw' - to ease the pain of the lock or whatever in real life!

I must warn you that I know Aikido, Judo, Jujitsu, Karate, Kendo, Kenpo, Ninjitsu and a few other Japanese words.

Naos

Runfree wrote:

Ah no it was a throw and roll as part of the breakfall. Can't remember what the name of the throw is as I haven't been practising for about 6 months now

But I suppose it felt much bigger then it really was as columok points out aswel. However if I remember what it was then I will tell you.

hehee.. i laughed as i read that, thinking bout the roll and breakfall. ahh.

yeh well at least u replyed man. Im trying to think what move we'd(JiuJitsu) do that would make u go that far.. hmm, cant think of the name, but prob one of those kick to stomach fall back and kick off type things.

Estelindis

columok wrote:

Having studied Aikido for years, and left for MMA since youll find lots of people that believe that they were thrown "10 ft." or more. The reality is that they cooperated and threw themselves but made themselves believe what they wanted to believe. You dont find this in Alive arts.

With someone who knows what they're doing, it rarely matters if uke cooperates. If uke resists, tori will just carry on (or maybe use a different technique, adapting to whatever form of resistance uke employs).

When one is training with beginners, it becomes necessary to follow the technique (but in a natural rather than an artificial way), as they'll never learn anything if you don't allow them to do anything.

Of course, under certain circumstances, it's necessary to follow the techniques of a high-grade practitioner, simply in order not to get injured. No point in resisting if the only thing that will be accomplished is getting hurt, is there? That would be an example of bad ukemi if ever there was one.

vasch_ro

depending where u are on the lovely south side
you may wish to check out Dave Jones club in Loughlinstown Leisure Centre
its not Judo but a ju Jitsu club , so its similar ish but much more emphaisis on groundwork but its good fun and excercise and u mentioned no striking so it might just suit
also there is a judo club in UCD and ju jitsu club also
and in tallaght there is www.twokingsmma.net
if u want futher info pm me

Unpossible

it's kinda like aikido (right?),

No, judo is a form of wrestling it involves resistance grappling on the ground/standing, throws, chokes, elbow locks and bruises ( maybe not always bruises)

Try it its fun

sound_wave

i jjust started 3 weeks ago and i find it excellent! lots of contact, lots of grappeling and lots of fun! hope you take it up as i find myself getting excited when it comes training day!

Good luck with the judo!!