New Anti-Smoking Ad

Töpher

Did a search, but nothing came back.

Has anyone seen this yet? The one with the old man who's talking by covering the hole in his throat and has lung cancer too? It's really upsetting, and he says in it he's looking forward to seeing his daughter in 3 weeks, but at the end it says he died 10 days after filming and never got to see her again. Really emotional ad I think. What sickens me is when someone can see that and light up almost immediately after! :mad: Is it real? Or was it just acted?

Mossy Monk

Einst&#252 wrote: »

What sickens me is when someone can see that and light up almost immediately after! :mad:

why would that sicken you

Töpher

I just find it hard after seeing an ad which clearly demonstrates the harm of smoking, in a very vivid manner, to watch someone I care about spark up! Knowing what they're doing to themselves. Anywho, I didn't mean for this to go down the 'whats wrong with smoking route', I was mainly just wondering is it real about him being that ill and dying, or was it all acted?

ChipZilla

Einst&#252 wrote: »

What sickens me is when someone can see that and light up almost immediately after! :mad:

Big deal. Last time I looked people were entitled to smoke themselves to death if they so wished. Maybe this should be in 'Personal Issues' or 'After Hours'. We'll have the whole anti-smoking hit squad in here in a minute.

There were similar ads on British telly with 'real' people, so maybe the guy wasn't an actor?

Exit

I saw it on Sky News just before it was released to television and it's a real person in the ad.

Stark

I don't think people would light up IMMEDIATELY after. Though there is a little thing called addiction which might make people keep smoking depsite awareness of the effects. Nicotine is in competition with heroin in the addictive substances league after all (Alcohol reigns top).

JBoyle4eva

The NHs did another anti-smoking ad a few years back with an old lady sitting by her cofffee table, wearing a wooly hat(probably covering her baldness from kimothearpy) telling the camera that doctors were only giving her a month to live.

The it says "This woman died 10 days after this ad was made!" I know this is the same ending for the ad above, but I don't smoke and wonder why the smoker's don't actually get up off their arses and actually try and QUIT smoking instead of saying they tried and failed!

Because

You can do it!

byte

To avoid flamewar, I shall be keeping close eye on this thread. Discussion on the advert itself allowed but if you want to discuss the morals and downfalls of smoking, etc, take it to Personal Issues or After Hours, as mentioned above.;)

Cabaal

I believe graffic adverts like this need to be aired, its much the same as the drink-driving adverts that are now aired
You would have never seen them years ago, yes they may horrify you but if the get 1 person to stop then atleast they've done there job with it.

flogen

pretty hard hitting ad, alright... his insistance that he will see his daughter when she comes to England, and then the text saying he died before she came back.
Gives the knock on effects of smoking a more personal angle, the 'this is what ciggarettes are doing to your heart' ad's are good, and do work to some degree, but this would be more effective IMO.

On the topic of anti-smoking ads, anyone seen the European ones (usually on MTV I think)? Alot of them are really poorly made, trying to appeal to young people, and so avoiding being too graphic.... doesnt really work IMO, I'm not a smoker, but I am young, and I think the ads are crap... imagine what a teen smoker (doing so because its "cool") would think about it... I imagine mass laughter.

flogen

dogs

Cabaal wrote:

...but if the get 1 person to stop then atleast they've done there job with it.

I think that is (and always has been) a pretty weak argument. When you consider the millions of pounds spent on CCTV systems to stop petty theft from newsagents, surely it's better to show hardcore pornography 24 hours a day. Won't someone PLEASE think of the children.

As for the ads themselves, I find the Sightsavers ad (eyelash scraping noise) far more disturbing but I'm not opposed to them themselves. They're fighting companies with a lot more cash at their disposal, ...provided it's not funded entirely from the license fee (after all; tobacco is a legal product).

In short: more sex, less old people.

Cabaal

dogs wrote:

I think that is (and always has been) a pretty weak argument....Won't someone PLEASE think of the children.

Well yes it is but its nice to think its saved a few people's lives,
As for thinking of the children I think its very important we all start a mob http://www.thinkofthechildren.co.uk/

As for the ads themselves, I find the Sightsavers ad (eyelash scraping noise) far

I can't actually watch that part of the advert, its like some-one touching there eye with there finger kinda freaks me out abit.

SantaHoe

Einst&#252 wrote: »

What sickens me is when someone can see that and light up almost immediately after!

Maybe the add spooked them and they lit-up in response to the stress they're feeling.
Allen Carr's book had some serious ranting about how shock-tactics often have the opposite to desired effect... but that's just one theory I suppose.
I think most smokers are aware of what damage smoking is doing by now, and it's not that they don't want to quit, but that they don't think they can.
That air-time would be better spent showing success stories from people who thought they'd never be able to give up, and maybe telling the viewers about their quitting options... I'd find that far more inspiring.

Ph3n0m

indeed, as IMO its pointless to show what happens when people smoke (after atleast a period of several years).

most smokers know what smoking can do to them.

it would be more inspirational if you saw an ad about people who have quit smoking and who gave their reasons why they did.

ads like that one dont affect me in any way (given that I am a smoker), they dont shock me, or scare me - I know what will eventually happen if I dont give up smoking - but an advertisement like this, with its supposed shock-tactics and use of real-life people wont make me stop.

smoke.me.a.kipper

Ph3n0m wrote:

ads like that one dont affect me in any way (given that I am a smoker), they dont shock me, or scare me - I know what will eventually happen if I dont give up smoking - but an advertisement like this, with its supposed shock-tactics and use of real-life people wont make me stop.

the do scare me with the consequences of what im doing to myself... but at the same time, their not making me quit.

alleepally

smoke-me-a-kipper wrote:

the do scare me with the consequences of what im doing to myself... but at the same time, their not making me quit.

Exactly the same here but the news that graphic images are set to appear on cigarette packs could be the persuader to give up. The TV and Radio ads make me think for the few seconds the ad is on, and then I forget about it. If I see diseased lungs or someones throat with a hole in it every time I whip a fag out, I'll probably think twice before lighting up. I say that now but in a nicotine deprived state I probably wouldn't care anyway...

http://www.online.ie/news/latest_irish/viewer.adp?article=3142707

Agent Smith

when these new ciggerate packs with the graphic's coming out here?

SantaHoe

Look, they could attach an actual piece of lung in a little zip-lock bag to the front of the box if they like, they're still missing the point... like anything else, people will become de-sensitised to seeing pictures of lungs, arteries etc.
It's a great way of being seen as doing something though, I'll give them that.
Political career++

alleepally

The news article says legislation will be passed in October so probably by the end of this year anyway.

SantaHoe

Actually, from online.ie

Legislation expected to be passed this October will mean cigarette packets will show graphic images in the latest attempt to scare smokers out of their habit.

[...]

A spokesperson for the Department of Health said the effect of the written warnings is wearing off, and the pictures will present a much stronger message.

[...]

That sums it up for me... :rolleyes:
1. Smoking isn't a "habit" - it's a drug addiction, lets move on from the 1950's viewpoint at least.
2. I'm already scared of what smoking is doing to my health... doesn't give me any magical quitting powers though.
3. What will they do when the "effect" of the picture-warnings wares off?

The Government is also reportedly planning to make cigarette manufacturers print the number of a helpline on packs to help smokers kick the habit.

A step in the right direction at least, although I wonder will this number be free as they could easily afford to run it from the money they make from tobacco taxes.

BrookieD

My Grandparents have smoked for as long as i have been alive and maybe another 20 years on that, this year my Granddad got lung cancer and has a matter of days to live? he knows it is due to smoking and he is to blame. My Nan however see nothing wrong in smoking at all??? no matter what ads are on TV she insist smoking does no harm to anyone!!! she has changed her habit after i made mention that my son her Great grandson will not be coming for a vivist if she continues to smoke in his presence.

the worst thing i could think of is for my little boy to be running around in the garden after a visit and keep having to stop as his lungs are Fuc*ed due to passive smoke

Cabaal

I love when people say "My dad smoked for 20+ years and did'ent die of cancer" etc you know the type?
Well I just say to them, "well I know someone who drinks and then drives at 90mph on the road everyday and he ain't been killed it"
nice n simple....

_007

This video was aimed at stopping young people from taking up smoking www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdaduVVddhw

ScumLord

I think the fact that even if I stopped smoking today I could still end up with the same conditions kind of reduce the effectiveness of the ad.

When I'm that age something is going to get me, I can't avoid death.

So you enjoy being an old man, I'll enjoy being young.

Go Harvey Go

Uh... isn't this thread nearly nine years old?

Richard Dower

Go Harvey Go wrote: »

Uh... isn't this thread nearly nine years old?

Has to be record for a zombie thread! :eek:

Go Harvey Go

Richard Dower wrote: »

Has to be record for a zombie thread! :eek:

I think I've seen an 11-year-old thread being dug up before...

But the point I was making there was, this thread has been resurrected after so many years for no real reason, so shouldn't it be locked?

AnonoBoy

This thread died from cigarette smoke related cancer but has been RESURRECTED!!!!!!


BRAINS and SMOKES!!!!

ScumLord

opps, I got rid of my tele in that year.

Go Harvey Go

AnonoBoy wrote: »

This thread died from cigarette smoke related cancer but has been RESURRECTED!!!!!!


BRAINS and SMOKES!!!!

When I asked if this thread should not be locked, I was actually being quite serious...

After all, usually when an old thread is resurrected when there's no real reason why this should happen, it's locked almost immediately.

And without meaning to sound like I love the mods and admins, where is Mr E?