Mount Venus Cemetary.

LegacyUser

hey guys

missed last investigation as i totally forgot about the thing when i came back from holiers.

anyway, a group of us were in Mount Venus Cemetary tonight. From about 2am. Lots of activity. We had a video camera only. We went to simply look around and check it out at that hour of the night. We ended up getting pretty freaked out. Lots of eery things up there. No direct sightings of anything but lots of scuffling behind us when we walked about. Also loads of strange noises coming out of nowhere. Pretty scary place. Anyway, u shud check it out and then move up the hellfire club later. we didnt. we just went for a drive and ended up there and looking about.

PS: We go on lots of drives around there. Avoid thursdays. Tons of steamed up cars parked in random places. Guess what is going on there? :rolleyes:

Anyway, enjoy!!!

Ro_79

Hey it sounds very active. Maybe its a good possibility for PRAOFI to embark on a future investigation in this area.

One question though, whereabouts is Mount Venus Cementary?

LegacyUser

Just up in the dublin mountains right beside rockbrook park school. I can give specific directions from leapardstown if anyone wants it. pm me.

Bee

Leave the graveyard alone. It is a sanctified place and let the dead that lie there rest in peace. Think of the sensitivities of the relatives of the interred if they hear of a bunch of (no matter how well intentioned) folk traipsing about a cemetary.

If you really want to investigate the Paranormal check out the old Massey estate opposite the entrance of Hellfire wood.

It has an area or two that will really freak you out if it is appropriate. Bring torches. Watch out for the ....feline ghost.

Bee

LegacyUser

Originally posted by Bee
Leave the graveyard alone. It is a sanctified place and let the dead that lie there rest in peace. Think of the sensitivities of the relatives of the interred if they hear of a bunch of (no matter how well intentioned) folk traipsing about a cemetary.

If you really want to investigate the Paranormal check out the old Massey estate opposite the entrance of Hellfire wood.

It has an area or two that will really freak you out if it is appropriate. Bring torches. Watch out for the ....feline ghost.

Bee

We were just looking around and admiring various graves. It was good fun.

As for the relatives of the interred yada yada yada, I would not care so I doubt they would either. Whats wrong with looking anyway? People do it during the day. Whats the big deal about doing it at night?

:rolleyes:

Mantel

Originally posted by cheesedude
We were just looking around and admiring various graves. It was good fun.

As for the relatives of the interred yada yada yada, I would not care so I doubt they would either. Whats wrong with looking anyway? People do it during the day. Whats the big deal about doing it at night?

:rolleyes:

They might think its a group of santaists doing strange things with corpses and sugar canes or just out to knacker drink and knock over a few grave stones. Most people would say you must show respect around graves and corpses, people are quite protective of their dead.

A group of people walking around any super quiet area at night draw suspicious thoughts, after all any decent person would be at home tucked up in bed with their teddy asleep.

LegacyUser

They might also think its Aliens. I couldn't care less. We did nothing wrong. We walked around and respected the graves and checked it out and enjoyed the atmosphere.

Bee

As for the relatives of the interred yada yada yada, I would not care so I doubt they would either.

If you think a little about death and dying and the truama of the relatives of the recently deceased (check out... or better still don't check the recently interred child's grave in Mt. Venus and give a little consideration to its parents)

Perhaps if you hold that life is precious and there is an afterlife you may understand the importence of graveyards as a way of coming to terms with the finality of death. Graveyards are as much, if not more so for the living as well as the dead.

If you are investigating a cemetery, remember: these are not just rocks and stones and corpses. These are people's mothers, fathers, husbands, wives, sisters, brothers, daughters and sons. How would you want others to treat the people you care about?

If there is paranormal activity in a cemetery and word gets about that some folk like to hang around a graveyard late at night to enjoy "the atmosphere" no genuine paranormal investigator will be allowed to enter, Garda patrols will be increased, and anybody caught on the grounds will be escorted out or arrested. Just one example of how what one "investigator" does affects us all. Remember the souls of those buried there.

Remember these are the people who came before you. They are your history and heritage. Someone else cares deeply about those interred here and would be very upset to see their loved ones apparently (and I use the words apparently as you claim to show "respect") disrespected in any manner. Those buried there did their best in their short time to make life better, and they deserve reverence, not contempt.

Paranormal investigating is not a game. If you are seeking a thrill I suggest you take up bungee-jumping or skydiving

Or if you are still interested,,,the grounds of the old Massey estate is well worth investigating

Bee

LegacyUser

Paranormal investigating is a thrill to me. I have never done it before but of course it would be a thrill to me.

Anyway getting on topic. Stop trying to blow something ridiculously out of proportion.

Those buried there did their best in their short time to make life better, and they deserve reverence, not contempt.

Those buried there; some were asshole and some were decent people like everybody you encounter alive. Why do you persist on making a big deal out of it?

We simply were looking around. It is not as if we were trying to rob gravestones and walk on peoples graves. We checked it out at night.

Bee

Why do you persist on making a big deal out of it

As for the relatives of the interred yada yada yada, I would not care so I doubt they would either.

If you really by your own words, selfishly don't care well and good, but please don't go ruining things for genuine paranromal investigators that post on this board by bringing valid research into disrepute due to the sensitivities involved..

If you think a little about death and dying and the truama of the relatives of the recently deceased ....Let's say that my profession brings me into contact with ordinary decent folk that would not appreciate anyone walking thru' graveyards in the night because of the above.

Read a little on psychology and of death and dying you may come to understand that certain behaviour is not welcomed due to societal norms.

Why bother with cemetaries when there are areas of paranormal activity to investigate?

Bee

LegacyUser

We were just walking around with a camera. It was interesting. We do not want to get raped in Masseys woods thanks very much. We were just having a quick gander. Again, I ask you to stop making such a big deal out of this.

don't go ruining things for genuine paranromal investigators that post on this board by bringing valid research into disrepute due to the sensitivities involved..

I am not ruining anything. I was simply looking around. If you have such a major issue with that, then go cry a river in personal issues. I do not care anymore. This is totally ridiculous.

Shigsy

sounds to me like Bee lost someone recently, or else your just being stupid! They looked around, day or night, whats the difference? Who cares what people think they were doing, fact is, they were onyl looking around. Get a grip and get back on topic.

LegacyUser

Originally posted by Shigsy
sounds to me like Bee lost someone recently, or else your just being stupid! They looked around, day or night, whats the difference? Who cares what people think they were doing, fact is, they were onyl looking around. Get a grip and get back on topic.

Good Call!!

Thomas from Presence

A high concentration of ghosts in graveyards never made sense to me.

A belief in ghosts usually supposes an entity joined with its original corporeal substance that is identical in some ways with the living substance. When death calls this intangible element is seperated and proceeds to act as though it were incarnated.

Therefore unless it is the ghost of some sort of goth/satanist/mourner/undertaker/necrophile then why would it manifest in a graveyard? Why not in its place of work, its home or its local pub?

Why act as a living being and then go somewhere where you never would have 'lived'?

If there is any serious science to the investigation of spectral phenomena as a manifestation of a dead individual then surely it can be practiced in all areas where people lived when they were alive?

The psychological conditioning we have all recieved from various media and cultural believes would make any investigation potentially flawed as the evidence would be acquired by people conditioned to believe that areas of headstones are the place for ghosts. Would there be so many sightings of a monster in Loch Ness if nobody had heard the legend?

My dead are buried in a nice kooky graveyard where over grown kids can play ghostbusters in lovely Hollywood-esque surroundings. To be honest I'd personally find it disrespectful to me for some pseudo-'investigator'/horror film fan go on in an area that I hold as a memorial to them and treat it as a play pen.

The dead folk probably don't care (being dead, different debate, sorry) but some living folk (moi included) may find it a bit insensitive.

keu

LegacyUser

Originally posted by Thomas from Presence
A high concentration of ghosts in graveyards never made sense to me.

A belief in ghosts usually supposes an entity joined with its original corporeal substance that is identical in some ways with the living substance. When death calls this intangible element is seperated and proceeds to act as though it were incarnated.

Therefore unless it is the ghost of some sort of goth/satanist/mourner/undertaker/necrophile then why would it manifest in a graveyard? Why not in its place of work, its home or its local pub?

Why act as a living being and then go somewhere where you never would have 'lived'?

If there is any serious science to the investigation of spectral phenomena as a manifestation of a dead individual then surely it can be practiced in all areas where people lived when they were alive?

The psychological conditioning we have all recieved from various media and cultural believes would make any investigation potentially flawed as the evidence would be acquired by people conditioned to believe that areas of headstones are the place for ghosts. Would there be so many sightings of a monster in Loch Ness if nobody had heard the legend?

My dead are buried in a nice kooky graveyard where over grown kids can play ghostbusters in lovely Hollywood-esque surroundings. To be honest I'd personally find it disrespectful to me for some pseudo-'investigator'/horror film fan go on in an area that I hold as a memorial to them and treat it as a play pen.

The dead folk probably don't care (being dead, different debate, sorry) but some living folk (moi included) may find it a bit insensitive.

I agree. But we didn't treat it like a playpen. We treated it like a graveyard.

Bee

Originally posted by Thomas from Presence

If there is any serious science to the investigation of spectral phenomena as a manifestation of a dead individual then surely it can be practiced in all areas where people lived when they were alive?

Personnally I have found apparitions of the living (crisis apparitions) and of the dead in the most innocous of places the most interesting as there is nothing to colour peoples perceptions in non "spooky" circumstances

Would there be so many sightings of a monster in Loch Ness if nobody had heard the legend?

Look at the recent fun and games in Monaghan with everyone seeing a "Puma", understanding/exploring how people perceive things after high media attention is always interesting

But some living folk (moi included) may find it a bit insensitive

Dealing with people in the circumstances you describe on a frequent basis gives one a deep respect for the relatives of the recently dead and how sensitive their emotions are.


Bee

salsamobeel

I think it's quite horrible that you(Geest) would go to a graveyard and gander around in the middle of the night with a videocamera. Fair enough if you want to experience paranormal activity but do it else where. There are plenty of other places you could do that but peoples loved ones are buried here. Have some respect. You wouldnt go to where your loved one was buried and pooch around there would you?

6th

salsamobeel wrote: »

I think it's quite horrible that you(Geest) would go to a graveyard and gander around in the middle of the night with a videocamera. Fair enough if you want to experience paranormal activity but do it else where. There are plenty of other places you could do that but peoples loved ones are buried here. Have some respect. You wouldnt go to where your loved one was buried and pooch around there would you?

Seriously, this thread is almost 6 years old. "Geest" is a user who is no longer on this website.

MrMojoRisin

salsamobeel wrote: »

I think it's quite horrible that you(Geest) would go to a graveyard and gander around in the middle of the night with a videocamera. Fair enough if you want to experience paranormal activity but do it else where. There are plenty of other places you could do that but peoples loved ones are buried here. Have some respect. You wouldnt go to where your loved one was buried and pooch around there would you?

I've often taken a stroll around the graveyards where my relatives are buried - both at day and at night. It never once entered my head that I'd be hurting the feelings of my dead relatives - or anybody else's dead relatives - just by being there. I'd say their bodies rotted away within the first month of their being buried anyway. Plus, I'm pretty damn certain they aren't hanging around their own graves when they could be back at somewhere far more interesting, like at home where they lived, or out at the pubs they frequented.

When I kick the bucket, I won't bother my hole staying around my grave plot. I'd probably die all over again from the boredom of the place.

Riamfada

There are more ghosts in this thread than there are in "haunted" castles