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Effects pedals for sale???

  • 14-07-2004 3:46am
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 649 ✭✭✭


    Does anyone have any old effect pedals they want to sell.I think Im ready for them now, but dont know where to start, do I go out and buy a G6 straight away?Argh!

    Please, any info here would help.

    Cheers!


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,848 ✭✭✭✭Doctor J


    Think of effects the same way you'd think of MSG. Used sparingly and knowingly they can enhance, but used in large amounts can be terribly unhealthy.

    What sounds are you trying to acheive?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,399 ✭✭✭WetDaddy


    Think of effects the same way you'd think of MSG...

    Hear hear!

    That one actually made me laugh out loud. Good work, Doc! :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,848 ✭✭✭✭Doctor J


    Nice one man. You and I seem to be a dying breed...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,399 ✭✭✭WetDaddy


    Agreed.

    I know it may seem a bit off-topic, but this is still kinda relevant: I only use a wah (Boss V-Wah) and very occasionally a light bit of distortion (Boss Blues Driver). That's it. To be honest, I'd rather add different sounds using different instruments, i.e. sax, trumpet, clarinet, percussion, piano...

    I don't know a hell of alot about effects Peewee_Lane, but from my limited experience, I think multi-effect boards like the GT-3, etc. tend to be a bit cumbersome. You need to spend a good bit of time finding / creating the right effects, then saving them, then figuring out how to recall them.

    Then again, having said that some people enjoy that kinda of versatility. Personally, just give me one or two pedals I can stand on and I'm happy. Even less complicated than a lightswitch... ("You mean there's and 'off'... -AND- and 'on' position?!?")

    ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,151 ✭✭✭Thomas from Presence


    Personally I think its more horses for courses.

    I play in a multi-faceted three-piece cover band and the GT3 has been a joy. We've no keys player and I'm the only guitarist so by deft manipulation of my tone we are able to some endearing and accurate versions of otherwise impossible songs like 'Video Killed The Radio Star'. Individual pedals dont do it for me cos I like the ability to change settings rapidly and to have different signal chains. In 'Video' I have to go through 4 changes in the 16 bars from the keyboard solo. Bad enough but impossible to do with seperates and still sound as well.

    I was never convinced of the mystical qualities ascribed to the quality of seperate pedals over multi FX. Some Multi FX are admittedly pants but none of them mess up on things like chorus, delay and reverb. Some are of greater quality but the difference of tone between a lovely Vox chrome wah and GT3 is probably indiscernible to an audience member at most of the gigs we'd all be playing. (Unless someone here has a residency in The Point?)


    Anyway I digress. If you're only looking to splash on a bit of delay, reverb, chorus or summat then a GT6 could be like blowing open a door with a H-bomb. If you want a device that will last for years and be a constant source of tonal inspiration (whacky or subtle) then its your only man for de job however.

    Additional whinge:
    One problem that I've noticed with bands who use time based FX (delay, tremolo, autowah etc.) is that they never sync their effects with the beat of the song. Resulting tone is a load of incoherent mush. The Boss multi FX stuff generally has tap tempo on it. Seperates don't usually so its hit and miss. The groove is at stake here people!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,598 ✭✭✭ferdi


    i got a Jim Dunlop Crybaby GCB - 95 wah pedal going for 80euro - a must for all guitarists.

    look here

    and here

    its the original and best

    interested?

    0877801198


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,313 ✭✭✭Paladin


    Just bought one last week from thomann. Goes nicely with my new Hotrails :)


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 23,363 Mod ✭✭✭✭feylya


    And if you buy the wah, I could mod it for you for true by pass, more gain, more volume, more bass and more mids for about €20.

    As for effects, I like to use quite a few. Distortion most of the time but also chorus, flanger, delay, reverb and of course, wah. I find that used properly, the effects add to a song. Tom Morello's use of effects (for example) is overdone. I have a video of him playing Cochise live and you can't hear the riff for all the digital processing on it. It's horrible.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,313 ✭✭✭Paladin


    Feylya, I havent opened my pedal to examine the circuit, but for true bypass Im presuming you mean just bypass the circuitry in the pedal whilst off? Why on earth would that NOT be the case as standard? What else do they do?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,848 ✭✭✭✭Doctor J


    Dunno about you Paladin, but I don't have a pedal that works with no battery when the effect itself isn't on.

    Surely a true true bypass would be a direct circuit between the line in and the line out when the effect is not on?


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  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 23,363 Mod ✭✭✭✭feylya


    Paladin, most Dunlop and Vox wahs are not true bypass. Even in the off postion, the signal is going through some circuity, sucking tone from your guitar.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,117 ✭✭✭Eoin Madsen


    Originally posted by Doctor J
    Surely a true true bypass would be a direct circuit between the line in and the line out when the effect is not on?

    Marshall pedals have this, but they call it "passive bypass". As long as the effect is off, the signal flows even without power. I can't imagine its that hard to wire yet as far as I can see none of the boss stuff does it, not even the tuner. I've never known a multi effects pedal to have it either, but I suppose that is a different kettle of fish.

    The coolest pedal I've used by far is the Mesa Boogie Bottle Rocket. Even if it unplugs in the middle of playing, with the switch on, the signal still passes right through without a hitch, bar the loss of the effect.I haven't a damn clue how you'd wire that to work. It also craps from a height on any transistor distortion pedal I've ever heard.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,848 ✭✭✭✭Doctor J


    Aye, it's annoying with Boss, Digitech/DOD, etc that you're using the battery even when you're not using the effect. Surely it can't be that hard for them to sort out crap like that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,117 ✭✭✭Eoin Madsen


    It probably comes down to cutting costs and saving time in mass production.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,848 ✭✭✭✭Doctor J


    I reckon they're in cahoots with the battery makers. Michael Moore's probably gonna do a film on it soon ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,592 ✭✭✭Ancient1


    peewee_lane - Buy and Sell, baby, Buy and Sell.

    Every once in a while you can find a real gem in there.

    I got a Boss DD-2 (THE delay pedal IMO) for 50 Euros from a dude in Cork who drove to Dublin to deliver it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 649 ✭✭✭Peewee_lane


    Sounds great guys, Thanks a million for all the help.I sahll continue on my search for the right effects!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,313 ✭✭✭Paladin


    Dunno about you Paladin, but I don't have a pedal that works with no battery when the effect itself isn't on.

    My Marshall guvner did but the Dunlop wah, as I now know, does not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,135 ✭✭✭✭John


    You don't need a load of effects pedals to get a good, interesting sound. I've only got distortion and flanger and using only those two I can get some pretty cool sounds, ranging from a nice warm guitar sound to a sound totally unlike a guitar. If you want effects, plan what you want and what sounds you want to make, there's no need to buy a multi effects pedal if you'll never use chorus, flanger, phase, etc, etc. Just buy a decent quality single effects pedal to start with.

    And as regards batteries, buy an ac adaptor. Granted the Boss ones are expensive but there are cheaper alternatives. Personally I use the Boss TU-2 tuner which powers my other pedals although the tuner is expensive enough on its own. But damn handy.


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