go on him british soldiers??

dark_knight_ire

This more applies to the politics section but i wanted to hear what the ordinary joe/jane thought. We all saw the pictures from the other night what i can only say was sickening the soldiers trapped they were damn lucky they were not killed. I would not blame anyone for not wanting to stay i mean i dont want a north to join the republic with thugs like that.

The day Sinn fein takes power here will be the day ireland cumbles, god knows the garda force would not support them let alone the army

keu

mmmm..
As far as I am aware the republic of Ireland couldn't viably support economically or otherwise the six counties of the north, so in my mind nationalism is not a concept I associate with.
I think unification will occur in terms of social acceptance though......or to be clear, once people evolve past the point of warring factions intent on maintaining a division between catholics and protestants and when people are safe to walk down any street without the fear of being killed, be he British, Irish, Scottish or Jamaican.
(I don't care for what the state is called or under who's authority it is governed)

As it stands I'm quite proud to be Irish, of my roots and culture, but I'm also quite glad to be a member of greater europe, where we share common standards with our european counterparts, (monetary, humanitarian etc..)
At the moment Britians exclusion from the EU helps to support the distance between north and south, but perhaps in the future those things might change and rather than seeing Ireland as a divided nation, we might see both units form closer ties as member states of European Union.

I like the republic as it is.

just jane

ChipZilla

Originally posted by dark_knight_ire
i mean i dont want a north to join the republic with thugs like that.

Well, don't lose any sleep over it. It isn't going to happen any time soon.

As for the poor british soldiers, who cares? They're big boys and they get paid to do what they do. Nobody forced them to sign up. Anyway, I bet they'd prefer to be in the north than Basra...

Civilian_Target

The North costs the UK about €4bn a year. Ireland couldn't afford that, and if you thought it was bad now, imagine what it'd be like if all the thugs were out of work (Over 60% on the NI work force are employed or their employment receives substantial funding from the government)

I feel sorry for the soldiers too, the worst thing for them is they can't really fight back for fear of ending up in another stupid tribunal.

pork99

Oh yes the rioting I mean marching season - the annual white trash (they come in green and orange flavours) rock throwing festival.

At the moment Britians exclusion from the EU

Britain is a full EU member, I don't quite get your point?

The North costs the UK about €4bn a year. Ireland couldn't afford that, and if you thought it was bad now, imagine what it'd be like if all the thugs were out of work (Over 60% on the NI work force are employed or their employment receives substantial funding from the government)

What get's me is that the main political division up there boils down a preference as to which government should subsidise them - the Unionists want it to be the UK government, the Republicans the Irish government. :rolleyes:

But all the Huns live on this estate - all the Taigs live on the other estate - how pathetic is that in this day and age?

Where I live I don't know or care what religion my neighbour is.

jay567

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ending up in another stupid tribunal.
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Are u kidding me with a statment like that?

Civilian_Target

No, the vast majority of tribunals around here seem to be a way to occupy otherwise useless lawyers. Do we really need a tribunal into Monaghan Hospital. Wouldn't a quick, painless, cheap, simple, enquiry do? And what about the beef barons, was that tribunal really worth it's millions in legal fees? Some tribunals are necessary, such as the one about the donegal gardai going on at the moment, but the bloody sunday tribunal is way over what is necessary for an event that happened 30 years ago, and of which many of the participants are dead.

*EDIT* By participants, I mean those who have died since the event, not those who died at it.

keu

Britain is a full EU member, I don't quite get your point?

not very pc is it.

britain still remains outside of a united europe, doing its best to remain independant (as noted by ukips majority support in the uk) it is clear the united kingdom do not wish to be a part of a united europe to the extent of heeding any eternal authority, uniting with the euro (in a common market under one currency) and choose not to implement the general manifold (regarding status) as other member states have.
(maintain the right to veto in tax defense and foeign affairs) where as european treaty recognises nato as the foundation of europes defense.

Britain is one of the six countries holding a referendum on the final text, (re: consititutional treaty) but not until next year. Until all countries or parliaments vote "yes", the old EU rules will remain.

Mighty_Mouse

This more applies to the politics section but i wanted to hear what the ordinary joe/jane thought.

Does that mean if a person is interested in politics - they cannot answer?

what i can only say was sickening the soldiers trapped they were damn lucky they were not killed.

Yes lets all worry about the rights of the brit soldiers. In hindsight a good idea to reduce security around the marches???? I suppose the british government thought that the brand new RUC= PSNI wouldnt be sectarian troublemakers anymore?

jay567

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I feel sorry for the soldiers too, the worst thing for them is they can't really fight back for fear of ending up in another stupid tribunal.
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That fear my save ur ass sometime, imagine a world without accountability. For example the lindsey tribunal, people were killed by our gov due to cost savings.

All im saying is be VERY carefull when slaggin tribunals so generally, you my come accross a bit ignorant/stupid.

the fnj

Originally posted by dark_knight_ire
This more applies to the politics section

It does, but I'm not going to move it as your points aren't made coherently

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