Pub/Club in Limerick allowing Smoking

thesteve

Got dragged to that sh!thole Costellos in Limerick for a going away party there last week. The only reason everyone was going there was because of what they've done to the upstairs/club section.
They've basically knocked a wall and replaced it with a metal mesh, like fencing. This makes a section of the room practically open and everyone packs into here smoking their lungs out. The result being of course that the whole place is fecking freezing!!

Can't be legal?!

egan007

3 walls make it Illegal
and the fact that anyone working there has to go into the area

flogen

what is it again? over 30% coverage is classed as indoors... or something like that

flogen

Batbat

why dont they just allow proper airconditening inside the pub, I worked in Phillip morris in NYC they had amazing airconditioning in the office and allowed smoking (which i did not like in the office) but the air was perfect anyway

neXus9

Airconditening won't work efficiently, you'll still get people smoking beside/opposite you blowing smoke straight at you.

Batbat

thats totally untrue, the more expensive airconditioning circulate the air in the room, although opening the door can distrut it slightly. however its very very expensive only super pubs could afford probably, costs many hundreds of k

flogen

batbat, your flaming and trolling and rediculous ideas closed the other thread, dont start with this.

this is not a discussion on what is wrong or right about the ban, the man/woman is just asking if the setup in the aforementioned bar is legal or illegal.

the smoking ban debate is dead now, unless you have some new information for us to discuss, in which case ask the admins to re-open the debate forums from a while back, and see how they feel about it :ninja:

flogen

Pacifico

Originally posted by thesteve
Got dragged to that sh!thole Costellos in Limerick for a going away party there last week.

Sorry to hear that Its some kip alrite

Batbat

its not a rediculous ideas you fool, I worked in a work place which had this AC system in place. just because you dont agree,

this is not off topic also, have a nice day

neXus9

A super air conditioner that sucks the smoke the second it leaves your mouth, wherever you are in the room!!!!LOL:rolleyes:

Runfree

Well when i was living back in holland and went to the pub(yes i was a minor back then but have been back recently) in amsterdam some of the pubs there have airco and it works fine, not a trace of smoke.

Well Wont be long before we can smoke in a pub again

RunFree(non-smoker)

neXus9

It would be impossible though if the people were right opposite you or beside you, especially if you were in the middle of the room.

gogo

there is a pub in my neighbouring that allows smoking as well, they have a skylight window thing that can be opened (its a fairly big skylight) and they go on the basis that you are not in an enclosed space when it's open.
I'm sure that it's not 100% legal.

As a smoker, i was looking forward to being able to sit down and have a drink and smoke, but i found it awful, It was so smelly. I have got so used to breathing in fresh air in a pub that it seems wrong to be sitting in a place where there are fifty smokers smoking double quick puerly because they can! Either way it was rotten.

Hobbes

Originally posted by flogen
what is it again? over 30% coverage is classed as indoors... or something like that

flogen

3 walls (ceiling is classed as a wall when counting).

They should fine the pub and close it on the spot.

steveland?

They stopped people smoking outside the engineering building in dcu cos the roof extends out over the walkway up to it so there's three walls and a ceiling enclosing it.

By the by im a non-smoker who works in a pub and i love it... no more comin home stinkin of smoke with yer lungs tryin to jump out yer throat. If the pub i worked in found some loophole that allowed smoking in a certain place (like that place with the skylight) id refuse to work in there

flogen

forget refusing to work, steve, sue them for every penny!!!

cheers for clearing that up hobbes, but I thought it was stricter than that... ah well... dont care on the nitty gritty, its working, and its great...:D

flogen

castie

isnt it also that you must be 15 feet outside of the premises?

not really sure on this one

Dave

I saw Nevada Smiths in Limerick last night with signs up saying "This is a smoking bar". Just to keep ye informed. Last ditch attempt to get some business i'd imagine.

jor el

Where the hell is Costello's?
Nancy Blake's in Limerick also allow smoking in the outback part. They have a part of the canvas roof covering opened, though I'd say this isn't strictly legal either. They've been doing this since the smoking ban was introduced. Why is it that when everyone knows about these places allowing smoking the inspectors aren't investigating. Is it that they can't be bothered or they don't want to cause any trouble.
I was in Nancy's on Thursday night and the little opening didn't do much and there were plenty of staff walking around this area collecting glasses with people smoking all around them. Surely this is a breach of the law?
As for Batbat's ideas of super-duper air conditioning units, air-con only works if the doors are closed. With people entering/leaving the pub all night the air-con, no matter how good it is, wont be worth a sh1t.

zervi2003

Are ye non smoking, for the law people ever happy?

I was in Nancy's last week and it was perfectly fine. There was good air flow through the outback - and I was one of the people puffing away happily with my pint.

Now I dont pretend to be happy with this smoking law as a smoker myself, but the law is the law and I wont break it or get fined for noone.

But Nancy Blakes are obviously not breaking the law else there would be uproar as in the cases in Galway and Cobh Co.Cork.

The outback in Nancy's is out doors, simple as that.

Badbonez

Originally posted by neXus9
A super air conditioner that sucks the smoke the second it leaves your mouth, wherever you are in the room!!!!LOL:rolleyes:

Ever been to Las Vegas? Their air conditioners may not suck up the smoke instantly but he only time you smell smoke is when you are sitting right next to someone. With enough money you can do anything.

Still, I don't like stiting at a gaming table with smokers. Happily they've begun using more non-smoking tables.

Pacifico

Originally posted by jor el
Where the hell is Costello's?

Up near the train/bus station beside the Unemployment offices.

Its quite a kip.

billy the squid

Thought Costelloes was up by the tates clock next to Baker place.

The Mid-Western health board went into nevada smiths today and gave them an hour to remove the signs and the ashtrays.

cerbeus

Taken from the Independant Newspaper:

Topless move to lure back missing customers.

A PUBLICAN has found a novel way around the smoking ban - by taking the roof off part of his pub.

And yesterday as customers enjoyed a pint and a smoke under an open sky, pub owner Tony Ward explained his actions by saying "drastic times need drastic measures".

Mr Ward who owns Redz bar and restaurant in West Street, Drogheda, Co Louth, brought in workmen to remove the roof from a first floor bar extension built in 1998.

The 1,500 square foot room, on the same level as a restaurant, is immediately above a ground floor bar.

Work was completed last week on the renovations at what Mr Ward says was a cost of €150,000. "I just felt that I had to do something. It's very drastic and we'll probably only get four months a year out of what we have done, but you do whatever you have to do," said Mr Ward.

He added: "Some people say I'm completely mad, bananas to do this, but I just felt I had to do something."

And he said he had every sympathy for the owner of Fibber Magees pub in Galway who had allowed his customers to light up. "If there is a collection for his courts costs I'd contribute," he said. Mr Ward, who was yesterday interviewed for RTE's Five Seven Live said when the smoking ban had first been introduced his smoking customers had initially not minded standing outside in the street to have a cigarette.

"But after a month or two people were saying, 'What in God's name am I doing standing in the middle of a main street smoking a cigarette'?" He says business has sufferered since the ban.

He believes the ban is also killing conversation in pubs with the flow of chat constantly interrupted as people go outside for a cigarette.

thesteve

You're both right, it is next to bakers place and the tate clock but the unemployment office is on the same row as it and the bus/train station is behind it......

neXus9

Originally posted by Badbonez
Ever been to Las Vegas? Their air conditioners may not suck up the smoke instantly but he only time you smell smoke is when you are sitting right next to someone. With enough money you can do anything.

I was replying to batboy who was saying that air conditioners can do that, which is impossible.

neXus9

Originally posted by cerbeus
Taken from the Independant Newspaper:

Topless move to lure back missing customers.

For a second there I was thinking "topless women?!?":p

jor el

Originally posted by neXus9
For a second there I was thinking "topless women?!?":p

Me too. Bring Hooters to Ireland That'd bring in the punters.

cerbeus

The same Publican recently on a bender in his own pub, offered €150 to the first women to stand on the bar and flash the "goods".

neXus9

Originally posted by cerbeus
The same Publican recently on a bender in his own pub, offered €150 to the first women to stand on the bar and flash the "goods".

Jesus, and then he's going on like he hasn't got two pennies to rub together (He owns six pubs for feck sake). I suppose though that it was a petty attempt to get publicity.

Victor

Originally posted by Batbat
why dont they just allow proper airconditening inside the pub, I worked in Phillip morris in NYC they had amazing airconditioning in the office and allowed smoking (which i did not like in the office) but the air was perfect anyway

Batbat, do you now work for BAT (British American Tobacco)?

neXus9

Yeah, looks like it. :rolleyes: