need advise/what do i need

beolight

hi guys

just trying to figure this all out.

my current terrestial aerial is pretty basic i can get bbc,itv,rte /ch4 etc but my rte tv3 signal suffers from ghosting whereas the uk channels are sometimes good and sometimes not so good, chanel 4 in particular seems to suffer volume distortion whereas one moment the sound is low and then suddenly high.

i figure the problem is with the aerial so i need to upgrade this, what type of aerial the forum recommend, i am thinking of keeping existing one and using it for rte /tv3 etc and get a dedicated one for uk channels. good idea/bad idea?

while i am getting this done i would like to get a decent home distribution set up in place,distributing tv/sat and fm radio throughout the house i have been looking at televes 7 way distribution attic box but dont know if it is entirely suitable to irish market ? is there any other solution?

also i want to get free to view satelitte system installed with a motorised dish, so what exactly should i be looking for . as this talk of quad lnbs, attenuators etc has me bamboozled, i just want someone knowledgeable to advise me on best system to get and then when i am speaking to installers they are not going to confuse me and sell me something else. i dont want to subscribe to sky as i have more than enough monthly direct debits but surely there must be decent solutions out there even if it means getting 2 dishes

any advise/recommendations would be greatly appreciated

byte

Could you tell us where in the country you're living? It'll help determine what transmitters you're receiving from (maybe you know?)

When the volume goes up/down on Channel 4, does the TV switch from Mono to Stereo or vice versa (on screen graphics)?

The Televes attic box should be OK though I do think it has seperate UHF/VHF inputs.

beolight

opps sorry

i am in drogheda

the volume increase/decrease on channel 4 i think is signal changing from nicam to mono, i dont know how exactly i could confirm this.

the current aerial i have i think is positioned between the rte transmittor and the bbc one and as such is basically catching the best/some? of both signals if that is possible.

what is the significance of the "seperate UHF/VHF inputs" on the televes distribution box? is there a better option?

thanks again

beolight

what if i buy second hand digi box with viewing card this will give me itv/bbc and channel 4 with decent reception and then buy a dedicated sat receiver i was looking at TOPFIELD TF5500 PV would this be the way to go?

if yes what type of dish should i be getting and what type of LNB i would like the system to be fully motorised

seano

what if i buy second hand digi box with viewing card this will give me itv/bbc and channel 4 with decent reception

It would give you perfect digital reception ***make sure that the card is valid.

and then buy a dedicated sat receiver i was looking at TOPFIELD TF5500 PV would this be the way to go?

It would be the way to go if you are looking at the extreme top of the range receivers.

if yes what type of dish should i be getting and what type of LNB i would like the system to be fully motorised

i am not sure of the dish size needed there but I know of people on the east coast with a one metre dish and a diseqc moter and they are quite pleased

Check out www.satellite.ie ,he sells diseqc moters and dishes for a decent price.As for the Lnb go for the Invacom 0.3 db

beolight

thanks for the reply seano

are you saying 1 metre dish would be most suitable size for a motorised system

what is difference between getting attentuator and the diseqc motor you mentioned and which is the best option?

regarding invacom LNB would i need to get a quad LNB for my set up

thanks again

seano

are you saying 1 metre dish would be most suitable size for a motorised system

No--what i mean is that 100cm is a decent size for the east coast of ireland to be able to receive a lot of satellites.Of course the bigger the dish the more you can receive.

what is difference between getting attentuator and the diseqc motor you mentioned and which is the best option?

A diseqc moter is a one cable system - cheaper but only for dishes to 100/120cm-tricky with high winds and tends to work less effecient with extenstive use.The actuater is better with bigger dishes in high winds and moves quicker.

beolight

hi again guys

@seano you say

A diseqc moter is a one cable system - cheaper but only for dishes to 100/120cm-tricky with high winds and tends to work less effecient with extenstive use.The actuater is better with bigger dishes in high winds and moves quicker.

that the actuater is the better option do you know if the TOPFIELD TF5500PVR will work with actuater, what feature on the sat receiver should i be looking for for a fully motorised system using an actuater?

@all

can anyone point me in the direction of a good installer in drogheda area

thanks

Zaphod

Originally posted by beolight
hi again guys
that the actuater is the better option do you know if the TOPFIELD TF5500PVR will work with actuater, what feature on the sat receiver should i be looking for for a fully motorised system using an actuater?

Look for "36 Volt positioner". The Topfield doesn't have one.

can anyone point me in the direction of a good installer in drogheda area

I think there's a guy from Drogheda who advertises on the back pages of What Satellite magazine. Can't recall the name.

seano

that the actuater is the better option do you know if the TOPFIELD TF5500PVR will work with actuater, what feature on the sat receiver should i be looking for for a fully motorised system using an actuater?

Take a look at the Echostar 3600IP for a built in 36 volt positioner.

If you want to have a Topfield or another type Diseqc 1.2 receiver and use an actuater you will need an external postioner.




Aston Satseeker

The SATSEEKER is today the best solution to drive your standard motorised antenna with any DiSEqC 1.2 compatible receiver. Drives your 24 to 36V actuator or HtoH motor with your current DiSEqC 1.2 compatible receiver!

F e a t u r e s :

Compatible with all DiSEqC 1.2 receivers
50 Satellite positions
Drives antenna of up to 5 meters
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Reed, Optical and Hall effect compatible
East/West indication of antenna movement
Error and Limit indicator
Integrated magnetic skew control

Greenman

If you still want to go for the TOPFIELD TF5500PVR then get one of these bought one in Morocco for 20 E's "works great" I've seen it here but much much dearer. Actuators are very strong and in close by to me Brussels not big money, my Jaeger actuator is 5 years or more and hasen't missed a beat, from time to time I give it a greaseing. One final thing is to take great care when connecting the four wires up to it ie if something shorts out well its curtains for the actuator.
Good luck and tell us how you get on!!!

seano

Hello Greenman (Hoe gaat het daar in de bier kapitaal van de benelux ?)


The difference between the EZ 2000 and the aston seeker is that the Aston Satseeker can drive the actuater direct from the diseqc commands in the receiver so no extra remote control is needed.

The EZ models are perfect for someone who has more receivers and wishes to be able to drive the actuater independent of the receiver.

Greenman

Hi Seano.
(Wij zijn heel goed in Vlanderen bedankt) You are right re the EZ2200 and EZ2000 but as we are a 4 receiver family I like the EZ2200.
If someone knows what they want to watch/listen to well the diseqc switch box with the four lnbs connected is great. On one receiver (the wifes) I have Arabsat my turning dish and Astra 1 and Hotbird on the four way switch and as you know that means you move between sats with no delay atall.:)

gorm

Originally posted by Zaphod
Look for "36 Volt positioner". The Topfield doesn't have one.




I think there's a guy from Drogheda who advertises on the back pages of What Satellite magazine. Can't recall the name.

The company you mean is Cosmossat and can be found Here . No nothing about them.

beolight

thanks guys for all your help and suggestions

has anybody got a list of manufacturers who use 36 volt positioner in their receivers

also what size dish should i be looking at (it can be mounted on roof or back wall) and what other accessories will i need?

Tony

technomate, echostar and strong come to mind

beolight

hi again guys

finally in position to install this now

before i go ahead and buy everything i am still confused as to what i should be getting

(1) what type of LNB should i buy? Quad? (i may buy sky plus in not too distant future) also will one dish with attentuator be able to handle sky FTA or sky plus and seperate sat receiver with built in 36 volt positioner or do i need 2 dishes for this

(2) what is the significance of the seperate UHF/VHF inputs on the Televes attic box? good or bad?

(3) if i need 2 dishes will the teleeves attic box be able to handle 2 dishes? and still distribute them around my house?

thanks again

Zaphod

1) If you want to run 2 or more receivers off the same LNB, then Quad output would be an idea. You could have both the 36V receiver and digibox running off one dish, but bear in mind that the dish will have to be positioned at 28E if you want Sky on. IOW you can't watch 30W on the FTA and Sky on the digibox simultaneously from the one dish.

2) In most parts of the country, RTÉ1+2 are still on VHF, TV3 and TG4 are on UHF. That the Televes has 2 inputs is good.

3) Presumably if it's seven way it will. Anyway you can simply combine the RF outputs of the 2 receivers (assuming digiboxes have RF out) using a splitter (2 female -> 1 male). You can usually change the frequency of the RF out on most satellite receivers in the installation menus so as to avoid interference between them. Older receivers/vcrs had a little adjustable screw at the back which accomplished the same.