I ordered my new toy

dogz · 05-07-2004 6:38pm #1

Just after ordering a dual layer dvd writer and 50 dvd-r and 50dvd+r both 8x from blankdiscshop really cheap only 60 for the writer and 30 for the discs:) postage was only 11. much cheaper than peats who are only selling an 8x siingle layer for 110 with no discs:cool:

Mutant_Fruit · 05-07-2004 9:36pm

30eur for 100 discs?!? What brand, and do they have cases?

vgar · 05-07-2004 10:35pm

Excuse my ignorance, but what's a "dual layer" DVD writer?

RobertFoster · 05-07-2004 10:38pm

Originally posted by vgar
Excuse my ignorance, but what's a "dual layer" DVD writer?

the disc has two layers, so 8.5GB space.

jesus_thats_gre · 05-07-2004 10:43pm

Originally posted by RobertFoster
so 8.5GB space.

9.4?

astrofool · 06-07-2004 12:04am

no 8.5

daveg · 06-07-2004 7:46am

Is this the new NEC drive? If so I ordered one last week from SVP as well :cool:

No media availible until September and then, rumers are, it'll cost about 10 Euro per disc :eek:

dogz · 06-07-2004 11:17am

no mutant they dont come with cases and its 30stg not eur, 50 ritek dvd-r 8x ive burned 200+ of this kind on me aul 2x writer and no probs and ive ordered 50 8x dvd+r again riteks ive never used +rs before so well see how they go

daveg about how long did yours take to arrive and how do u find it

yea i was lookin on a few french sites and some us ones discs there are currently $15 each!!!!!

whosurpaddy · 06-07-2004 11:25am

presume the dual layer writer writes single layers at 8x yeah? what brand is the writer, you got a linky?

Matt Simis · 06-07-2004 12:19pm

Originally posted by dogz
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yea i was lookin on a few french sites and some us ones discs there are currently $15 each!!!!!

And the reason you insist on mixing currencys is...?

dogz · 06-07-2004 12:45pm

yea i bought the writer in england they use stg then i did a search for dvd+r9 it returned some french and us sites, france in case u didnt know use the euro and the us use the dollar:)

Yea whosurpaddy it writes single layer +/-rs at 8x and dvd+r9 at 2.4x
heres a link http://www.blankdiscshop.co.uk/acatalog/Hardware_Section__.html
its down a bit its a nec multispin 2500(a)

Mac daddy · 06-07-2004 1:01pm

Originally posted by astrofool
no 8.5

I thaught it was a 9.4??? Normal dvd is 4.7 if i'm right dual layer 9.4

astrofool · 06-07-2004 1:59pm

google is your friend ! anandtech has an article on it too

dogz · 06-07-2004 4:37pm

its actually 4.36gb that dvd single layers can store and 4.25 x 2 is 8.5 so its not really hard to see where 8.5gb comes from

Col_Loki · 06-07-2004 5:11pm

its actually 4.36gb that dvd single layers can store and 4.25 x 2 is 8.5 so its not really hard to see where 8.5gb comes from

Ehh u sure about that? All the media ive used was 4.7gb and ive put that ammount onto it.

Mutant_Fruit · 06-07-2004 5:13pm

The simple answer is that you don't fit can't fit the same amount of data on the second layer as you can on the first.

The technical answer can be googled.

Ehh u sure about that? All the media ive used was 4.7gb and ive put that ammount onto it.

No, you put 4.36gb on each disc, trust me on this one.... The simple way to check is to make a 100mb zip file, and keep copying it onto a DVD burnlist thingy until the disc shows up as full, you'll find you're about 4 zips short of 4.7gb

Col_Loki · 06-07-2004 5:22pm

No, you put 4.36gb on each disc, trust me on this one....

Wow, didnt know that. Stupid nero told me i had 4.7gb

....... Is that the same thing as you get with hard drives, ie 1mb is counted as 1000kbas apposed to 1024kb? (or whatever the figures are)

dogz · 06-07-2004 5:59pm

the very same

daveg · 07-07-2004 10:03am

Originally posted by dogz

daveg about how long did yours take to arrive and how do u find it

Took about 3/4 days to arrive. Find it brilliant. It writes DVD-5 @ 8X so it's as fast as all the others on the market and I'm futureproofed when dual layered media becomes more readily availible (and cheaper!!).

Originally posted by whosurpaddy presume the dual layer writer writes single layers at 8x yeah? what brand is the writer, you got a linky?

Yep it writes single layer as well (DVD-5). It's the NEC ND-2510. It's on SVP for £64.99stg

whosurpaddy · 07-07-2004 10:14am

Originally posted by Mutant_Fruit
The simple answer is that you don't fit can't fit the same amount of data on the second layer as you can on the first.

The technical answer can be googled.

No, you put 4.36gb on each disc, trust me on this one.... The simple way to check is to make a 100mb zip file, and keep copying it onto a DVD burnlist thingy until the disc shows up as full, you'll find you're about 4 zips short of 4.7gb

he's completely right on both counts.

po0k · 07-07-2004 10:33am

Originally posted by Col_Loki
Wow, didnt know that. Stupid nero told me i had 4.7gb ....... Is that the same thing as you get with hard drives, ie 1mb is counted as 1000kbas apposed to 1024kb? (or whatever the figures are)

More than likely.

netman · 07-07-2004 11:03am

This is pretty cool.. Didn't know about this shop before..

I'm paying through the nose here for DVD-R media.. Found a few shops in the UK with cheap media, but shipping ends up costing more than the blank discs themselves..

This looks promising

Thanks!

Col_Loki · 07-07-2004 12:40pm

Aparently www.pricestorm.com are very cheap with DVD's and have free delivery ......... might be another option (im just after finding out about them so havent used them myself yet).

BigEejit · 07-07-2004 1:36pm

I use pricestorm ... very quick and good service .... recommended

netman · 07-07-2004 3:13pm

Wow! Excellent!

Damn, I've just spent nearly 50 euro getting a 25 DVD-R spingle from Komplett, could have gotten the same for under 8 quid from PriceStorm (different brand but who cares, still 4x) !

dogz · 08-07-2004 1:15pm

daveg it arrived today buned a dvd straight away, i got some datasafe 8x discs with it but it was only burning at 4x just wondering if u can burn at 8x or is it only seeing the media as 4x
thanx

netman · 08-07-2004 2:22pm

Sometimes you need a firmware upgrade to recognise the more recent media..

If it's 4x blanks, then you shouldn't be surprised, but if they're 8x blanks and the drive won't recognise them properly try upgrading the firmware.

There are also some hacked firmwares that let you burn 4x at 2x media etc.
Loads of them floating around for Pioneer drives, I'm sure there's hacked versions for other manufacturers as well.

Also, have a look for a more recent version of your burning software.

dogz · 08-07-2004 2:35pm

so what ur sayin is i might b able to use whats left of my 2x discs and burn them at 8x? btw yes its 8x media im tryin to use trhanks 4 ur help

netman · 09-07-2004 9:44am

Well, you can get 2x4all firmware that lets you burn 2x on 1x media, which is pretty much fool-proof these days. Or you can be more adventurous and look for nx4all firmware, which will let you burn any media at any speed.

It doesn't guarantee the results though, crappy media burned at high speed will result in an unreadable DVD, so use at your own risk

I ordered my new toy

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