Backing Up DVDs

vjoc

Is it possible to bypass the copyright proection feature on a DVD so it can be backed-up somehow?

ChipZilla

Yes, but I doubt if you'd be allowed discuss it here. They're a bit strict on things like that

hostyle

visit doom9

vjoc

Thanks hostyle

Verdammt

Tut tut tut, it's illegal to copy DVD's.

What you want to do is "back them up" for your own personal use.

Look for DVD Shrink, I use it and it's bloody excellent.

I think the website is http://www.dvdshrink.org.

And the best thing is , it's FREEEEEE

Mutant_Fruit

DVDShrink is the best high speed way of backing up DVD's, but DVD Rebuilder is the easiest way to do High quality/lower speed backups.

Depending on the time you have for each DVD, and the compression needed, you can decide between the two. If you're doing low compression >25%, then DvDShrink wil be grand (probably). But if you're compressing by over 30%, you probably should be using DVDRebuilder+CCE for best quality.

cdebru

get anydvd runs in the background removes all copy protection
region coding etc
then backup with clonedvd2 very straight forward
or just use
dvdshrink
dvd decryptor
both of these are free
and work just as good

Bebop

Get DVD shrink and Nero 6 ultra,
DVD shrink allows you to backup just the english language track, cutting down the DVD to the same size as a DVD recordable disk, if you have Nero installed it will automatically carry on and burn the finished DVD, it prompts you to remove the original disk and insert a blank DVD +/-R

Mutant_Fruit

clonedvd2 ain't free, and offers equal quality to DVDShrink. Therefore, DVDShrink would be the program of choice, unless you go for one of the High Quality methods of backing up...

RicardoSmith

Its nearly cheaper and easier just to buy two copies of the DVD. The're so cheap these days.

Mutant_Fruit

Its nearly cheaper and easier just to buy two copies of the DVD. The're so cheap these days.

I'm supposing you think spending 20quid on a second DVD is better value than spending less than 60 minutes with DVDShrink to make a copy, and then 10 minutes burning that copy?

What do you do when one of your DVD's breaks? Splash out on another one for 20quid, or just recopy at the expense of 70 minutes (or less)...

EDIT: And i think 20quid for a brand spanking new DVD is cheap. It'll be hard to find that price anywhere...

EDIT2: prices from cdwow.ie.... The Lord of the Rings - The Fellowship of The Ring (Extended Edition) EUR 29.99

RicardoSmith

Guess I've been lucky I haven't had any DVD's break. I could understand if one got scratched or something. But break? Its not an hour and 10 mins its an hour and 10 mins for every DVD you own, plus the cost of the software, plus the cost of the DVDR, plus your time to do it. Unless you consider it leisure? So yeah if one breaks I think its cheaper to replace it, rather than back them all up. But Maybe you have a specialist collection or something of hard to find or expensive imports. In which case well fair enough. I started making backup's myself but got bored with it and don't bother now.

I'm more interested in backing up my old cassette collection on MP3 now. I guess I should re buy it all on CD but I just couldn't afford that.

MisterAnarchy

clonedvd2 ain't free, and offers equal quality to DVDShrink

true but Clone DVD2 is at least 50% faster than DVD Shrink .

cdebru

I'm supposing you think spending 20quid on a second DVD is better value than spending less than 60 minutes with DVDShrink to make a copy, and then 10 minutes burning that copy?

what the hell are u backing up that takes 70 minutes
takes about half an hour to back up and burn
and guess what u dont have to sit there and watch it u can go on a bout your merry way
come back pop in the blank come back in 10 minutes and hey presto
and blank dvds cost less than 50 cent each
and about 80 euro to buy a burner
hardly a major outlay

RicardoSmith

Thats cheap.

Where do you get DVDR for less than 50cent each?
What burner are you using that can copy in 30mins?

You might get me back interested in it. Though the DVD writer in my lappy is only 2.5x so it would probably take me longer. I was interested in backing up some of my old VHS tapes.

cdebru

http://www.pricestorm.com/moreInfo.asp?code=BULDVDMR4XO&tabGroup=GROUP-PC&tabGrpCode=COMP1
these are 7.49 sterling free post to ireland
thats about 11.50 say
thats 46cent a disc
burning a 4 speed for a 4.7 gig disc takes about
12 minutes
encoding is the slower part and that depends on your comp more than your drive
any half decent system
athlon 1.4
512 ram
and a good size harddrive
should be fine

RicardoSmith

I'd be worried about the compatibility of those.

whosurpaddy

the time it takes to backup a disc depends on a few things but the most important one is how much the data needs to be compressed, can take anywhere from 10 mins to 2 hours.

ive got a x4 burner and that takes 15 mins to write a 4.7 gb disc. x8 speed ones are fairly common now and i presume they take half the time.

Mutant_Fruit

What burner are you using that can copy in 30mins?

Well, its easiest if i do the following.... Firstly, i created a .bat file that activates the 3 programs i need to copy the DVD one by one. The second one opens when the first one closes. It took me 30 seconds to make ie.

Bascially, i open the .bat file, and it fires up DVD Decryptor, where i use my DVD-Rom drive to copy the DVD to my HD. This is important as my CPU (an overclocked 2500+) can compress data faster than my drive supplies it, and it works out faster when i do the Deep analysis with the vob files on my HD, plus it means the drive spins less overall. About 10-15 mins for this step

Then, when i quit DVD Decryptor, DVD Shrink opens up automatically, where i then do a Deep Analysis (for best quality). That generally takes less than 35-40 mins.

Then, when that quits, Nero opens automatically, and i then burn the DVD @ 6x on "Thats Write" DVD+R's.

Col_Loki

I use dvdXCopy , one simple program ........ copies from the DVD drive to the hard drive, does the nessary compression, asks for a blank DVD and then burns it. 30mins would be a general time for the process.

Have heard DVD Shrink is brilliant alrite.....

Mutant_Fruit

Bah, DVDXCopy ain't free. And my method is more or less "3 clicks" once its set up (and its not that hard either...). All the untilities i mentioned are free as the air you breath.

EDIT: If you disable Deep Analysis DVDShrink is as fast as any other compression program, and gives slightly lesser quality. With deep analysis it takes longer than other programs, but gives better quality aswell.

cdebru

tbh
the difference between deep analysis and just normal encoding is very slight
not sure if it is worth the extra time
but thats just my opinion
maybe i need glasses then i will see the difference

Mutant_Fruit

It won't be that noticeable if you're doing light compression, but if you were compressing to 60% of origional size (or more) you should do it, there will be an improvement.

However, if you are doing big compression onthe DVD, you'd be a lot better of using DVD Rebuilder (with Quenc or CCE as the encoder). The reason for this is that transcoders such as DVDShrink and DVDXCopy are fast, and bad quality for large compressions, but Quenc and CCE are ENCODERS, which results in better quality output. I noticed a big difference between Harry Potter backups using DVDShrink and DVD Rebuilder (with CCE). And thats what made me use DVD Rebuilder for everything above a 20% reduction.

daveg

Originally posted by Col_Loki
I use dvdXCopy , one simple program ........ copies from the DVD drive to the hard drive, does the nessary compression, asks for a blank DVD and then burns it. 30mins would be a general time for the process.

Have heard DVD Shrink is brilliant alrite.....

Col_Loki how do you find the quality using DVDXCopy compared to DVDSHrink/DVD2One etc. I have a copy of it but I never used it as I was unsure how output quality would compare.

I did a lot of research on DVDSrink vrs DVD2one and Tbh most opinions on DVD forums are that DVD2one gives better quality and is quicker.

gadget junkie

The trouble with DVDXcopy is that it puts a disclaimer notice at the start of your dvd movie warning that its use is limited to backing up your own DVDs and any distribution of such copies is illegal, you also cannot make a copy of the backup DVD,

A lot of people start with apps like this and move on the DVD shrink which will do the whole thing in one simple operation [Nero 6 required] its also free, I use it with my MSI DVD 2X burner, it will do a full movie in 40 mins start to finish

whosurpaddy

yea, that notice is what makes me keep dvdXcopy as a last resort, dvdshrink using normal compression is my preferred method of compression and ive never had a complaint on quality.

should mention dvd2one as a great program if your discs have scratches and your having trouble backing em up. saved me recently when backing up a set and had 1 scratched disc.


also i try to check em using power dvd 4 or above, which has the handy feature of being able to play dvd files from the HDD.

Col_Loki

Since i havent made that many back-ups over the last while i havent bothered trying other software, dvdXcopy was just so easy and the quality was very good IMO.

Am going to try DVD Shrink and a couple of the others listed and see how i get on as i hate that disclaimer thing on the DVD.

MisterAnarchy

I have used all the following software,DVD Shrink,Clone DVD 2,Intervideo DVD Copy,Nero Recode,Moviejack DVd Xl ,DVD2One and DVD X Copy.
After testing them all I now only use Clone DVD 2.
It is the fastest and most user friendly of the lot.
It also doesnt tie the pc up as it isnt too demanding.
DVD Shrink is very good but too slow.
Intervideo DVD Copy is slow as is Moviejack.
Nero Recode is a killer on the pc and uses 100% CPU .
DVD2one is fast but isnt very user friendly and doesnt give you control over what to include in the backup.
DVD X Copy is pretty rubbish to be honest.
Thats my findings anyway.

Mutant_Fruit

DVD Shrink can also read directly from the disc, and do an auto-burn at the end, making it a "one-click-backup" solution, but i don't like doing it that way...

daveg

Originally posted by MisterAnarchy

DVD2one is fast but isnt very user friendly and doesnt give you control over what to include in the backup.

DVD2One gives you full control over what to backup. You can do a full disc backup. Remove subs/audio/extras/. It'll even let you join a movie (say if it's a flipper).