More Luas tomfoolery

Hagar

Have a look before they change it

The currency is dollars. Mother of Jebus.

http://www.luas.ie/ftp/head16_US/luasto.swf

Washout

Well the link does have head16_US in the URL

who created this swf file?

Hagar

I don't know who created it, but it is the official Luas site.
It seems to have given the same attention to detail as the rest of the Luas project.
The project manager should be shot with balls of his own shyte.

BattlingCheese

seems to be legit.
Check out www.luas.ie and bottom of home page it links to that flash file

dahamsta

Le serveur français est très sexy aussi.

http://www.luas.ie/ftp/head16_US/

adam

spanner

ok lads we have critised the luas long enough. fair enough it has it faults and it has had many cock ups but it is here now and i think its about time we started to look positively on it and if we are unhappy with it just try to influnence future routes now instead of moaning about them when they are up and running.
like it or not its up and running so lets try for once in ireland to look positively on something we do and give our backing to this space age tram system

Hagar

Spanner has a point, we should get behind the Luas.

All together now P U S H

Töpher

Apparently I'm in Beechwood :rolleyes:

lynchie

Originally posted by dahamsta
Le serveur français est très sexy aussi.

http://www.luas.ie/ftp/head16_US/

adam

For those of you you cant find the pdf of the red line map on this page it is the link titled "map rouge"

and looking at the page again, the PDF is fairly small, roughly 24 Ko !


btw, anyone see the maiden voyage of the trams today? One passed the office at 2:30, looked like something out of india, they were all packed into the tram! Guess it will be like travelling on the central line in london during rush hour!

Tom Dunne

Originally posted by Hagar
Spanner has a point, we should get behind the Luas.

All together now P U S H

ROFL

Ah I suppose it's only a matter of time.

Badbonez

Originally posted by Hagar
Spanner has a point, we should get behind the Luas.

All together now P U S H

ROFL!

Ok, being an outsider, just what is the Laus? I looked at the website and it appears to be a light rail system. What's the problem (other than traffic tie ups whilst being constructed)?

GreeBo

I was on it today, had to get from churchtown to harcourt street so I decided to use free luas over 1.20 bus.
Biggest mistake ever.
I was there at 2:45 (granted I was 15 minutes early) got off at Harcourt St at 3:45. Nice.

It was packed with little 12 year old knackers pushing their way on and off. The first three that passed me were all full (last one didnt even stop at the stop)
It was full of people taking trips all the way in and out.
It also had at least 20 luas people on it, filling it up.

Dreadful public relations exercise.

Hopefully it will sort itself out in weeks to come. Dont like the idea of the pensionners travelling free at all times, I see lots of oldies using it between 8-9am.

Other than my rant, the trip from dundrum to charlemont was quite fast.

One final point, in a tram idea like this which will be very full at certain periods, why we have single poles to hold onto in the middle of the floor is beyond me. Was in paris recently and the "cling-to-poles" branch into 3 vertical poles about a foot from the roof and then back to a single pole a foot from the floor. It means that 3 times as many people can hold the one pole (at a comfortable height )with out holding hands.
Just a suggestion.

Hagar

According to the 6:01 news tonight on RTE the first tram journey went smoothly but the secound journey had to be abandoned when "an object became jammed in a door"

Those bloody passengers, the cheek of them them bringing "objects" onto the Luas.

Sarky

Bets on every carriage smelling of piss by the end of the week? Or am I too late already?

Cake Fiend

Nice MSPaint logo in the top left corner there. Pheer the art skillz.

Sleepy

Originally posted by Sarky
Bets on every carriage smelling of piss by the end of the week? Or am I too late already?

Piss would be one thing, the problem will be when you've to dodge the syringes and ****e everywhere...

pork99

What cracks me up is the map with the 15 minute walk indicated between St Stephens Green and Abbey St

"Er... we forgot to build that bit - you have to get out and walk" Truly an integrated transport system if you count shoe leather! ROFLMAO

Sherifu

I always thought we should have been the 51st state but thats rediculous!

l3rian

those 2 routes look rubbish

what they should have done with all the wasted luas money is sorted out our roads, to increse capacity, and included a few more quality bus coridors

seamus

Originally posted by redoxan
Dreadful public relations exercise.

On the other hand, at least we know that there are enough people to use it

You hardly expected it to be pristine and empty though did you?

Imposter

Originally posted by seamus
On the other hand, at least we know that there are enough people to use it

You hardly expected it to be pristine and empty though did you?

I want to see how many fines are handed out in the first month (and possibly how many inspectors are hospitalised). That for me will be the test of whether it will work successfully in Dublin or not.

pork99

Originally posted by l3rian


those 2 routes look rubbish

what they should have done with all the wasted luas money is sorted out our roads, to increse capacity, and included a few more quality bus coridors

for €750,000,000 we really should have at least the beginning of an underground system

Cities were trams run successfully usualy have straight wide streets unlike Dublin.

The Luas really should have gone underground after Charlemount on the Green Line and after Heuston on the Red Line.

Hagar

The interface for ticket purchase as shown on www.luas.ie is very poor.
Whn asked to select you start point the list comes up in alphabetical order rather than something reprensentative of the actual route. The same for the end point. Surely it would be possible to show a diagram of the route and click on the two locations. Wouldn't the cost be the same in either direction. Then select ticket type single,return,adult,child etc via a radio button type display.

These guys thrive on complexity. It justifies their existance. Well no it doesn't but they think it does.

l3rian

The interface for ticket purchase as shown on www.luas.ie is very poor.

its crap alright haggar, and the price is crap too, €1.80 for a one way into town from sandyford

for €750,000,000 we really should have at least the beginning of an underground system

thats right pork99, even Pyongyang has a decent metro, just compare the north korean dictatorship's nice public transport system to our rubbish map above

seamus

Originally posted by Hagar
The interface for ticket purchase as shown on www.luas.ie is very poor.
Whn asked to select you start point the list comes up in alphabetical order rather than something reprensentative of the actual route. The same for the end point. Surely it would be possible to show a diagram of the route and click on the two locations. Wouldn't the cost be the same in either direction. Then select ticket type single,return,adult,child etc via a radio button type display.

Where is it? Or are you talking about the fare calculator?

Hagar

Yes its the fare calculator.
Whether it's for calculating the fare or actual purchase the functionality should be of a usable standard.

BTW Luas had its first crash today in Harcourt St.
Minor enough but according to Aertel "300 people had to be evacuated from the Luas"

"Evacuated", it was only a fender bender, not the London Blitz.

I wonder how many compo claims will be lodged?

Victor

I saw a muppet drive her car up Harcourt Street from Stephen's Green today, turned every head on the street.

10 seconds later a guy half parks in a yellow box junction, when I suggested (OK, heckled from the far side of the street ) he move out of the way of the on-coming tram, I was told "maybe you should too".

No wonder there was an accident today.

Re: fares

BuffyBot

"Evacuated", it was only a fender bender, not the London Blitz.

So dodgy phraseology by reporters is Luas' fault too?

seamus

Originally posted by Hagar
Yes its the fare calculator.
Whether it's for calculating the fare or actual purchase the functionality should be of a usable standard.

Um. It's a tiny demonstration bit of the website. It's perfectly functional for what it does - give you a fare estimate. It's hardly important to have a multimedia, super-user-friendly interface for a toy fare calculator, that doesn't actually do anything.

BTW Luas had its first crash today in Harcourt St.
Minor enough but according to Aertel "300 people had to be evacuated from the Luas"

"Evacuated", it was only a fender bender, not the London Blitz.

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=Evacuate
Seems like an accurate word. It's a safety procedure to remove everyone from the tram in the event of any accident.

What is it with people who just complain about everything. no matter how small, and no matter whosoever slightly related to the LUAS.

As Victor says, I'm not surprised there's been an accident already. The amount of people treating it like a bus lane - stopping in the yellow boxes, stopping over the white line, taxis parking on the rails. From the pictures Sky News had, it would seem the moron in question turned into Harcourt St from Charlotte way, in the right-hand lane, and overshot the corner, as so many people do there, colliding with the tram that happened to be there at that preceise instant.

Victor

Originally posted by seamus
Um. It's a tiny demonstration bit of the website. It's perfectly functional for what it does - give you a fare estimate. It's hardly important to have a multimedia, super-user-friendly interface for a toy fare calculator, that doesn't actually do anything.

Then why does it reload every time you add an individual piece of information.

Superman

Originally posted by l3rian
...even Pyongyang has a decent metro, just compare the north korean dictatorship's nice public transport system to our rubbish map above

Yes it would be great to be able to take the pyongyang metro, The Chollima line is the best! so so communist I like the trick with having a places called "triumph" and "triumph returns".
Imagine how confusing that would get!

God that metro is actually crazy just look at the stop names! Signal fire ? Rehabilitation? and paradise (ironic its is in pyongyang after all) ?

Luas green line is slightly useful, good for sandyford ind est. but that bridge was OTT. I also think there is going to be a feeder bus from ucd to the luas.

The red line is going to be far far more ghetto! Such tasteful places as fatima > rialto > suir road > golden bridge > drimnagh > blackhorse. Oh yeah, it also ends up in tallaght. I think its handy the way their are two hospitals on the line! Handy for when ya's gets tha stabbin's.

But it is handy for gettin from connoly to heuston, because in order to go on train from galway to waterford you got to go to dublin first then go to the different station and get a second train. It's also good logistics for drug dealing, Think about it!

seamus

Originally posted by Victor
Then why does it reload every time you add an individual piece of information.

Because it's badly written.

cormie

did anyone else try and touch the screen just incase the buttons worked? hehe

Victor

Originally posted by Superman
But it is handy for gettin from connoly to heuston, because in order to go on train from galway to waterford you got to go to dublin first then go to the different station and get a second train.

For Galway - Waterford, you can change at Kildare / Newbridge of Heuston, Connolly is useless to you unless you are going to Wexford or Belfast.

Monty - the one and only

Moved to transport/commuting

jd

Originally posted by Victor

No wonder there was an accident today.

Any truth in the rumour it was a 4x4/SUV?
jd

seamus

Originally posted by jd
Any truth in the rumour it was a 4x4/SUV?
jd

Nope. Twas a small car. An eighties micra or fiesta.

Naos

Originally posted by Victor
I saw a muppet drive her car up Harcourt Street from Stephen's Green today, turned every head on the street.

10 seconds later a guy half parks in a yellow box junction, when I suggested (OK, heckled from the far side of the street ) he move out of the way of the on-coming tram, I was told "maybe you should too".

No wonder there was an accident today.

ROFL! What a comeback eh.. he must have felt so smug

Originally posted by cormie
did anyone else try and touch the screen just incase the buttons worked? hehe

yeh.. my finger's sore. if only this was america i could sue luas ..

Victor

Originally posted by Mear
ROFL! What a comeback eh.. he must have felt so smug

Well I suppose there was a risk of the tram derailing at under 5kmh, crossing the track and mounting the footpath, crashing through the light pole and pinning me to the ground ..... or maybe the was an errant granny in a wheelchair, speeding down the footpath.

BrianD

It seems to have given the same attention to detail as the rest of the Luas project.

Perhaps you might want to elaborate on this pretty lazy remark

Furthermore, is this demo flash thing available for the general public to find or is it something that the geeks amongst us are likely to find? I haven't seen it on their website.

Hagar

You accuse me of a lazy remark and yet it appears that you didn't click on the link or read the responses of those who did ?????

The site is poorly designed.
The Luas is late and over budget.
These facts are self evident.
And that your honour is the case for the prosecution.

BrianD

I did read your post but obviously didn't read mine!

In response ...

The site is poorly designed

Lazy answer. Why? The site may not win any awards but it is straightforward, informative aand does the job.

The Luas is late and over budget.

It may be late but Minister Brennan would disagree with the over budget bit according to his radio interviews during the week. The €200m was an initial estimate and not a contract price. I have no knowledge what the contract price is.

These facts are self evident.

What facts...very easy to write this one liner, eh?

The fact that a flash demo of the ticketing machines is hardly the end of the world!! Is it still accessable via a link on the web site? Perhaps the developer was testing his wares.

dazberry

Originally posted by Superman
The red line is going to be far far more ghetto! Such tasteful places as fatima > rialto > suir road > golden bridge > drimnagh > blackhorse. Oh yeah, it also ends up in tallaght. I think its handy the way their are two hospitals on the line! Handy for when ya's gets tha stabbin's.

Subject to ban-age from Victor for attacking the poster as apposed to the post - Superman - you really come across as a knob is that statement. Unless Victor asks me to explain this, I really couldn't be bothered to otherwise.

D.

Superman

Originally posted by dazberry
Subject to ban-age from Victor for attacking the poster as apposed to the post - Superman - you really come across as a knob is that statement. Unless Victor asks me to explain this, I really couldn't be bothered to otherwise.
D.

here! what! i didn't attack poster at all! I was just pokin fun at the red line which i think is going to be a recipe for disaster.

please tell me who/what I offended!

Victor

Originally posted by dazberry
Subject to ban-age from Victor for attacking the poster as apposed to the post

You get your wish. PM me next weekend.

Superman, while yes some of those areas do yes suffer from deprivation and ghettoisation, you are being a bit broad and insulting.

Sarsfield

Superman, is it not a good thing to see investment in deprived areas? Or should only wealthy areas be in receipt of Government investment?

Maybe we should only build schools and hospitals in D4 and Malahide from now on?

I have no doubt that scumbags will travel on the Red Line. But so will normal decent people.

I don't want to get banned, do I won't make a personal comment

Superman

I was just making a joke!
Besides its pretty hard to sugar coat some of those areas. never once did I say they shouldn't of put the luas there. I think it is good for those areas but will be a bit more dangerous than the other line.
All I said about those areas being ghetto was "The red line is going to be far far more ghetto! ", and lo! Victor actually agree's with me "yes some of those areas do yes suffer from deprivation and ghettoisation"

I think you all need to stope being so prudent and take a joke, the right way! If i wanted to offend everybody I could of wrote a far harsher post!

BTW I think banning is extremely childish, "Oh no! I don't like that post, I think i'll send the poster to the bold corner" - why don't you just give me lines , i can see it now : I will not post messages thst critisize anything x 50

Superman

Originally posted by Sarsfield
I have no doubt that scumbags will travel on the Red Line.

yet another person agree's with me!

pork99

Originally posted by l3rian


thats right pork99, even Pyongyang has a decent metro, just compare the north korean dictatorship's nice public transport system to our rubbish map above

If we had a command economy and thousands of political prisoners to use as expendable slave labour I'm sure we could do the same

LFCFan

wasn't there already incidents of rock throwing at the LUAS on the red line during testing?

Hecate

If we had a command economy and thousands of political prisoners to use as expendable slave labour I'm sure we could do the same

It's probably Kim Jong's personal transport system between his various "palaces of the people", I'd love to have a country I could treat as my own amusement park the way he does...