Why is this News?

flangeman

Somebody please feckin help me here? There is war, flooding, famine, corruption and Euro 2004 happening at the moment.

So tell me please, Jeasus please, Why is this News?

http://www.rte.ie/arts/2004/0628/flatleym.html

grumpytrousers

So tell me please, Jeasus please, Why is this News?

Dunno - but whatever ones feelings on overpriced merchandise, shooting the seller is a bit much, innit?

lodgepole

Originally posted by flangeman
Somebody please feckin help me here? There is war, flooding, famine, corruption and Euro 2004 happening at the moment.

So tell me please, Jeasus please, Why is this News?

http://www.rte.ie/arts/2004/0628/flatleym.html

It's as valid a piece of news as any of the things you mentioned previously.

Tusky

Originally posted by flangeman
Somebody please feckin help me here? There is war, flooding, famine, corruption and Euro 2004 happening at the moment.

So tell me please, Jeasus please, Why is this News?

http://www.rte.ie/arts/2004/0628/flatleym.html

Of course its news...not headline news but news none the less.

Mac daddy

Dunno probally cos that guy got shot :rolleyes:

Sleepy

What I'd like to know is why Flatley's name is all over it. The guy was a merchandiser which I think we can safely take to mean he sold the t-shirts and programmes etc. Can anyone else see Flatley climbing off his little pedastal enough to have even known the poor lad's name?

eth0_

A member of an Irish production was brutally gunned down during an armed raid.
How is that NOT news?

K2

is there a stupid thread award available to give to flangeman? How does murder and robbery not count as news?

tba

I would have thought that Euro 2004 was less important than this.

Big Ears

Originally posted by tba
I would have thought that Euro 2004 was less important than this.

A lot of people would disagree with u there .

Paddy20

Because it is new ,shocking & tragic. Therefore it is "News". Get it news means something new, simple as that.

Hobbes

Originally posted by Sleepy
Can anyone else see Flatley climbing off his little pedastal enough to have even known the poor lad's name?

When your career isn't as popular as it was, sometimes it needs a tradegy to get the press.

joe_chicken

Originally posted by Hobbes
When your career isn't as popular as it was, sometimes it needs a tradegy to get the press.

are you suggesting that Flatley shot him (or had him shot) to get his name in the paper....


hummmm... thats just crazy enough to be true!!!

Puck

It's certainly more important than some guys chasing a ball around.

Big Ears

Originally posted by Puck
It's certainly more important than some guys chasing a ball around.

As I said before , a lot of people would disagree there .

alleepally

I belive Bertie is doing the official opening of Flatley's mansion.

Good man Bertie. I'm having a little soiree next week and I've sent him an invite. I've said there's 2 free pints of Bass and a packet of King crisps in it for him. I know I have him hooked now.

And re: the news story and purpose of this thread. It is news. Anyone Irish or with a connection who dies in tragic circumstances anywhere in the world will become news either locally or nationally.

flangeman

So I see I'm in for a bit of a battering then... I do quite understand the description of the word 'news' although maybe for some of the posters I should have asked why its 'news worthy'


news ( P ) Pronunciation Key (nz, nyz)
pl.n. (used with a sing. verb)

Information about recent events or happenings, especially as reported by newspapers, periodicals, radio, or television.
A presentation of such information, as in a newspaper or on a newscast.
New information of any kind: The requirement was news to him.
Newsworthy material: “a public figure on a scale unimaginable in America; whatever he did was news” (James Atlas).


Seems to me, the 'Lord of the Dance' is nothing more than a vehicle for our American friend Mr Flately to increase his fortune without merit.

Much like the London West End show Bollywood(no artistic merit, just another little musical 'by polling current trends' so that Mr Webber can put on some tripe for the visiting tourist hordes in London in one of his seating warehouses he calls theatres).

I knew a guy that used to dance in 'Riverdance' and splinter group(differernt idiologies, more extreme views) 'Lord of the Dance'. He wasn't a happy camper with the bossman(but sure who is with their boss?).

I just find it odd that in all that is happining in the world today/yesterday/tomorrow, and all the forgotten news, http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/WO0406/S00251.htm of suffering), that a dead Englishman in quite a violent country(in parts) who worked on merchadising(t-shirts, little shoes) for a 'Dance troupe' financed by private American money, ran by an obnoxious Irish-American(who here doesn't have a story about a mate of theirs who has had some sort of the interaction with Flately entourage on the streets of Dublin?) and dragging those poor souls all over the world for feck all pay(where else would you go as an Irish dancer?) and continueing with tour just days after somebody is shot dead in front of half the crew?

And doesn't seem fit to mention anything on the 'News' part of their own website? tut tut

So why RTE.

fragile

Originally posted by Paddy20
Because it is new ,shocking & tragic. Therefore it is "News". Get it news means something new, simple as that.

ehm, not exactly, NEWS represent the initials for North, East, South and West, and has no connection with the word new

Paddy20

fragile,

Your post is the biggest load of codswallop, I have had the misfortune to read in a very long time. Try reading 'flangeman's post - [just above your own] - where he quotes an obviously reliable source for the meaning of the word "News", Quote: "News : New information of any kind". end quote.

Quote you:" NEWS" represents the initials for North, East, South and West. end quote. Those initials would spell NESW ? :rolleyes:

On your bike:p

rymus

Originally posted by Puck
It's certainly more important than some guys chasing a ball around.

Indeed... also more important than what's currently happening in the "Big Brother House". When I see news about what's going on in that crap tv show it really makes me cringe.

Unpossible

NEWS" represents the initials for North, East, South and West. end quote. Those initials would spell NESW ?

North East West South (NEWS) now that was really hard putting them into the right order wasn't it ? That was what my teacher told us back in the day, wether its true or not Im not sure Im just angry with the fact that you couldn't see the order they're supposed to be in if this is what it means

*edit was for my mispelling of true and to appologise for being a little angry at the moment*

fragile

Originally posted by Paddy20
fragile,

Your post is the biggest load of codswallop, I have had the misfortune to read in a very long time. Try reading 'flangeman's post - [just above your own] - where he quotes an obviously reliable source for the meaning of the word "News", Quote: "News : New information of any kind". end quote.

Quote you:" NEWS" represents the initials for North, East, South and West. end quote. Those initials would spell NESW ? :rolleyes:

On your bike:p

Why do you assume flangeman's post is reliable, he makes no reference to his source

To quote wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/News

The derivation of the word "news" is debated. One theory is that it is an acronym for the four cardinal directions (North, East, West, and South), but most etymologists believe the more prosaic explanation that it comes from the word "new", reflecting the fact that most news involves events that just happened.

So shall we agree to disagree, because I for my part am not about to get on my bike

There I said it..

Tusky

Does it matter what the word means ? Your man being murdered is "news" and many people would want to hear about it end of story.

LegacyUser

Originally posted by flangeman
Somebody please feckin help me here? There is war, flooding, famine, corruption and Euro 2004 happening at the moment.

So tell me please, Jeasus please, Why is this News?

http://www.rte.ie/arts/2004/0628/flatleym.html

Are you really that stupid? FS! :rolleyes:

Paddy20

fragile,

Try looking up the word "news" in a proper highly respected dictionary, such as The Oxford English Referance Dictionary. ROFL

Oh, and Unpossible , I advise you to do the same

Unpossible

Paddy my problem was not the definition of news, but that your argument on why fragile's definition was incorrect because he put the words in the wrong order.

Oh, and Unpossible , I advise you to do the same

sigh as I explained before the name comes from a simpson episode,

Skinner: Ralph Wiggam

Ralph: Oh boy oh boy I won

Skinner: No Ralph your failing english

Ralph: Me fail english? thats unpossible

*edit, bah stupid html. Man these early finnish mornings are making me angry*

fragile

Originally posted by Paddy20
fragile,

Try looking up the word "news" in a proper highly respected dictionary, such as The Oxford English Referance Dictionary. ROFL

The word *news* was coined from the fact that early daily papers carried images of globes on their mastheads and boasted that their reports came from all directions -- nORTH, eAST, wEST, and sOUTH

I dont have a copy of the highly respected Oxford English Referance Dictionary, so I cant use that as a reference, but as soon as I find a respected reference I will post it here (too busy at work at the moment)...