Anti-War concert moved to Vicar Street due to ban on Radio Advertisement

flangeman

I'm over here in London, so what's the story at-home why were Radio ads banned?
Radio Ban
18 June 2004
Second date, new venue for anti-war gig

A second date has been added to the 'When Bush Comes To Shove' anti-war concert which takes place this weekend.

The original concert, headlined by Christy Moore and Damien Rice, was supposed to take place in the Point Theatre on Saturday 19 June but was moved to Vicar Street earlier this week.

Mundy, who was due to play a solo show in Vicar Street that night, offered it as an alternative venue and will now join the line-up himself.

According to the Irish Anti-War Movement who organised the concert, they were forced to move the show after the Broadcasting Commission of Ireland banned radio advertisements last week.

They claimed that they could not sell enough tickets for the 8,000 capacity Point without radio advertising.

All tickets purchased for the Point are valid for Vicar Street on Saturday and a second night - Sunday 20 June - has been added for the same venue.

The full bill for the second show has not yet been announced but Rice has confirmed that he will play both nights.

therecklessone

Originally posted by flangeman


According to the Irish Anti-War Movement who organised the concert, they were forced to move the show after the Broadcasting Commission of Ireland banned radio advertisements last week.

They claimed that they could not sell enough tickets for the 8,000 capacity Point without radio advertising.

Bull.

They had no problem attracting 100,00 protesters to the streets of Dublin last year without radio advertising. Richard Boyd Barrett attracted c. 1,500 first preferences in the local elections and Eoin Dubsky over 3000 in the Euro's.

Where is their core support when the €30 is required?

I'm also told that SIPTU were backing this concert. Why didn't every SIPTU branch have a poster up in their respective workplaces and have local shop stewards trying to sell tickets?

I have yet to hear anybody say they were unaware of this concert.

Stop blaming poor ticket sales on the big bad BCI.

Zombrex

Originally posted by therecklessone


Stop blaming poor ticket sales on the big bad BCI.

I think the point of the post is that they were banned from advertising their concert, not the ticket sales

Sleepy

can someone explain to me exactly why the advertising was banned?

Sand

The ads were prevented from Newstalk 106 because they were advertising for a political purpose, according to the BCI guy on the last word a few days ago. J Barret was whining it was censorship, but the BCI guy said it was quite clear the concert was to highlight and raise funds for a political cause and that the ad itself was political hence, it couldnt be allowed. J Barret may have shot himself in the foot by registering the Stop Bush campaign as a political party, copperfastening the issue for the BCI.

Barret then whinged that Stop Bush wasnt the same as the Anti War movement but the BCI guy countered that the Anti War website describes the concert as raising funds for the anti war movment and the Stop Bush campaign, linking the two.

Seems open and shut to be honest.

The BCI guy told Barret he could advertise all he wanted in the papers as his remit only extended to commercial radio, so to claim theyve been banned from advertising is wrong - though predictable.

The reason theyre moving to Vicar Street is because they cant fill the Point full stop. They can still advertise in papers, so its not like it would be a secret. Theyre just exploiting it for publicity.

chewy

that richard boyd barret not j barret.... different barret anyone know where you can find a list of recently registered parties wanna see what he registered... looked about couldn't find it

eoinm

lots of people who are anti-war, don't want to contribute to a SWP (or SWP front) fund raiser.

the BCI decision just provides a handy smokescreen for RBB & his cronies to whine behind

therecklessone

Originally posted by Wicknight
I think the point of the post is that they were banned from advertising their concert, not the ticket sales

Apologies for the poor wording. The comment was directed at the organisers of the gig, not the original poster who I accept was asking why the ads were banned from the radio.

therecklessone

Originally posted by Sand
J Barret may have shot himself in the foot by registering the Stop Bush campaign as a political party, copperfastening the issue for the BCI.

As has been pointed out, its Richard Boyd, not Justin that Sand is referring to.

Anyway, am I right in thinking that this course of action was taken because it would allow the organisers to put up posters on lampposts that would otherwise be illegal as they are would be commercial advertising?

Does anybody know the timeline involved, i.e. at what stage they registered as a political party, pre- or post-radio ban?

Sand

Ah yeah, got the two mixed up - Ive mentally got them both filed under W for **** so youll forgive me.

As for the registering of the party it was well in advance of the ban, and yes it was to allow them to put up posters - I think they ran cadidates in the locals but Im not sure how significant their vote was. Id imagine they got the single issue party vote tbh.

mike65

You'd think from all the PR that RTE had given them over this that ther concert could fill the Point Depot now....

Mike.

Cork

Originally posted by flangeman


They claimed that they could not sell enough tickets for the 8,000 capacity Point without radio advertising.

They were certainly getting tons of coverage on both TV and on the print media the other week.

Many concerts sell out in minutes without any advertising and very little publicity.

dathi1

Many concerts sell out in minutes without any advertising and very little publicity.

not true.....look at Miss Eliot in the Point...and the Maddona concert is very slow even with advertising...now on the gig scene which I'm more familiar with no adds and promos means no gig. So Cork are ye commin on the protest?...ah come on.

Cork

This gig not ample coverage in many newspapers and on TV. I remember TV3 news doing a big feature on it & it still failed to fill the Point?

There is indeed a big difference filling the point and Slane.

pete

A couple of TV news spots is not the same as advertising. Not by a long shot.

But, while the lack of radio advertising would certainly affect ticket sales to a certain extent, I think what had more affect was the less than stellar lineup (the bauld christy excepted), and not any lack of public interest in the issue, as some seem to be implying.

Cork

Westlife have no troble filling the point night after night.

Radio advertising is not essential. Most concerts are advertised in newspapers.

There are many ways to advertise apart from using radio.

I don't think the organisers of Woodstock were depending on radio advertising.

pete

cork - what exactly is the point you are trying to make here?

therecklessone

Originally posted by pete

I think what had more affect was the less than stellar lineup (the bauld christy excepted), and not any lack of public interest in the issue, as some seem to be implying.

If the interest was there the line-up would be a secondary concern, given the stated aim of the concert.

Are anti-war supporters afraid to put their money where their mouth is? Or are too many simply unwilling to throw their lot in with Richard Boyd Barrett and his SWP buddies?

Originally posted by pete
A couple of TV news spots is not the same as advertising. Not by a long shot.

Somebody tell Lorraine Keane her career is in ruins...

pete

Originally posted by therecklessone
If the interest was there the line-up would be a secondary concern, given the stated aim of the concert.

Sorry, but i'm not shelling out 30 quid out of some misplaced sense of right-on charity. I will, however, be out on the street when the big man arrives.

Are anti-war supporters afraid to put their money where their mouth is? Or are too many simply unwilling to throw their lot in with Richard Boyd Barrett and his SWP buddies?

Maybe they just can't stand the revs & damien rice...?

Somebody tell Lorraine Keane her career is in ruins...

We can but dream...

therecklessone

Originally posted by pete


Maybe they just can't stand the revs & damien rice...?

The first goes without saying, no comment on the second.

therecklessone

I can't resist...

http://irishantiwar.org/calendar/item.tcl?scope=public&calendar_id=875

Our biggest problem has been getting a big enough venue because we know that there are simply enormous numbers of people who will want to support this event and the protests against Bush. We had planned for a much bigger outdoor venue but were unable to get planning permission because of the new planning regulations that require 16 weeks notice for an outdoor event.”

However, the Point is the biggest indoor venue and with a capacity of 8,500 will send a very clear message from musicians and fans that the warmongering of Bush and those who support him must stop.

Richard Boyd Barrett

[edit]corrected horrible spelling[/edit]

mike65

If this was such a big deal word of mouth would have filled the Point even at 30 euro a throw, which is these days little enough. Even for socialist students.

Mike.