The Priory of Sion

BEAT

Do you believe it may still exist?

I have been reading up on this since I discovered the book: The Divinci code
and came aross info about 'The Dossiers secrets',

I wonder if there is still a society out there protecting this valuable information.

Is there anyone else out there who knows what I am talking about and can offer some more info on the topic?

I have found this info on it so far:

http://www.fiu.edu/~mizrachs/poseur3.html
http://www.ordotempli.org/priory_of_sion.htm

earwicker

You could check out the book that Brown completely ripped off: Holy Blood, Holy Grail. It starts off as an investigation into the grail, and winds up connecting the Merovingian bloodline to it. It came out in the 70s (forget exact year off the top of my head).

It is now widely believed that Baigent and Leigh were conned by the "last remaining Merovingian." He apparently faked and plated Les dossiers secrets. He's also pictured in the book.

Note that Sir Leigh Teabing is a combination of the surnames of the authors of the book: Baigent and Leigh.

EKRIUQ

First I've heard of it, where did it originate???

DEmeant0r

What, may I ask is the Priory of Sion? Summarize it please, because I'm not going to read a full website on it.

Unpossible

theres a sequal book to the holy blood and th grail, its secrets of the Templar knights (thats roughly the title but its back home in Ireland so I don't have it with me). I havent read the first one and was starting the second before leaving.

Sleepy

Only managed to get through about 4 pages worth of text, can someone gimme the condensed version?

whosurpaddy

its been a while since ive read the davinci code so i may be a bit off in places.


holy grail: collection of documents which debunks the history of christianity and catholic church. right back to jesus, who was (according to book) a propet, not god, and had a kid with mary magdalene and as such there is a surviving bloodline and ancestors of jesus alive to present day


priory of sion: people who protect/hide this collection of documents until the "right time" , to reveal this to the world

cant remember where the templar knights fit into things, but val kilmer was one in the saint

Epitaph

Originally posted by whosurpaddy
cant remember where the templar knights fit into things, but val kilmer was one in the saint

God almighty, my heart...don't do that to me!

Sleepy

So, THAT's what the DaVinci Code book is about. Must pick up a copy.

whosurpaddy

its a very good read. full of interesting stuff, wouldnt take most of it at face value though.

good example of the type of thing in the book - do a google for a pic of the last supper. the person to the left of jesus looks somewhat like a woman (book claims its mary magdelene) and its suggestsed the person whos talking to her is about to stab her (think its judas).

martarg

I read the Da Vinci code a few weeks ago, and I did not find it particularly informative or interesting. I suppose that after reading a couple of Katherine Neville books, which recreate the same kind of pseudo-historical mysteries, and Peter Berling's The Children of the Grail series, which is infinitely better as a Grail narrative, I found the Da Vinci Code repetitive, unoriginal, and not worth the fuss at all....

tricky D

holy grail: collection of documents which debunks the history of christianity and catholic church. right back to jesus, who was (according to book) a propet, not god, and had a kid with mary magdalene and as such there is a surviving bloodline and ancestors of jesus alive to present day

Holy Grail = sang real in french, means royal blood. This suggests the holy grail is not some petfeeding bowl, but actually refers to jesus' and as a consequence david's bloodline (and has connections to anyone else who care to throw in like the egyptians, hiram or the astarte cults of nth africa). This stuff is in the Jesus Conspiracy which is in the same-ish series as the other 2 books (holy blood, holy grail and the templar secrets iirc). Most of the JC book is Turin Shroud rhubarb, but there some great info on the Essenes and info items whitewashed by the spin doctoring of the gospels such.... eg to be the Messiah (teacher/prophet), you had to have rabbinical status which means you had to be married. The wedding at cannae strangely omits to mention who is getting married and jesus supplies the grub, maybe it is his. Magdelene and Mary then get the respin treatment to prostitute and virgin resp.

After the crucification (what crucification) it suggests, among other things, that the happy and v much alive couple headed off to the other end of the med and set up shop in the region which later was ruled by the Cathars then the merovingians.

The theories then go a bit mad getting into templars, european royal bloodlines, the golden bough, diana cults, treasure, crusades and hundreds more side shows, just make them up. I don't believe Sauniere was up to much either found some nice antiques or just made the stuff up or engaged in some forgery (check out the hoffman mormon forgeries to check how gullible ppl still are or indeed scientology wrt belief systems)

The books are an 'entertaining' read though you need a few cellars of salt.

So who really is teh wun?? (if u care)

Sleepy

I'd find it an interesting read as I'm quite categorically anti-religeon.

Flashling

What! Jesus had a twin!

Flashling

I mean...what jesus...I'm cool, I don't belive in God.....:rolleyes:

raphaelS

Da Vinci Code is a good book all right but the Dossiers Secrets (secret files) is a fake.
There's 2 Priory of Sion:
-First one in middle age, along with temple knights, this is history and we don't know much about it.

-Second one invented in 1956 by a french right extremist who wanted to have some royal blood, he wrote and register the Dossiers Secrets in Paris Bibliotheque Nationale, the list with Da Vinci, Newton,... is in that file.

See my post in French:
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?postid=1697749#post1697749

Raphael

For information: The Bibliothèque Nationale, among other things, is where all the books, magazines, newspapers,... publish in France should be register (The legal deposit system).
http://www.bnf.fr/site_bnf_eng/connaitrgb/indexgb.htm

User45701

There is more than 1 "secreat order" that is still around today.
i dont know the 1 in particular u are talking about but has to be a good few of them floating aorund the place.

flogen

I thought the davinci code was a work of fiction, as in it made no attempt to put itself forward as fact, it was just some detective thingey.... shows how much attention I paid...:d

Flogen

bleh3000

lol, according to the poll, I'm the only one that believes that the "modern" Priory of Sion is a work of fiction.

Second one invented in 1956 by a french right extremist who wanted to have some royal blood, he wrote and register the Dossiers Secrets in Paris Bibliotheque Nationale, the list with Da Vinci, Newton,... is in that file.

Yeah, I completely agree, as do some historians (the most wordy article arguing against it is here , another argument here )

The fact is, our desire for conspiracy theories and "shadow" organisations that control everything have blown the Priory of Sion way out of proportion. And although the DaVinci Code is an entertaining book, it is currently being heavily criticised for its many inaccuracies, historical or otherwise, so any information about the Priory os Sion in it should be taken, as already said, with a couple of cellars of salt

BEAT

I like to believe that this ancient order still exists, still has members of perhaps the Vatican guarding it secrets.
It's not like we could prove it either way, I am sure people would be guarding it with thier lives...and willing to take the life of those who threatened to make the secret known...the Vatican is a very strong and frightening powerhouse...I wonder if many people know that.