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Geography

  • 13-06-2004 11:19am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,943 ✭✭✭


    Anyone got any good notes on glaciation (and sea erosion)?

    Mine are a bit crappy, and are unlikely to get me over a B2.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,299 ✭✭✭oeNeo


    I got a good enough grade with these in the mocks (B I think)

    http://boards.ie/members/neo/glaciation.rtf


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,943 ✭✭✭Mutant_Fruit


    those notes aren't veery detailed at all! Is that all you wrote in the mock, or did you pad them out?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,122 ✭✭✭subway_ie


    Originally posted by Mutant_Fruit
    those notes aren't veery detailed at all! Is that all you wrote in the mock, or did you pad them out?

    Isn't that the whole point of notes - they're supposed to be short and concise, you only expand on them when you're doing the exam. Key words/phrases, "triggers".


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,299 ✭✭✭oeNeo


    Nah I expanded on them


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,943 ✭✭✭Mutant_Fruit


    well, i meant they are lacking details and key words that my notes have such as...

    Compaction: this is when the snow that falls in the corrie compresses due to its own weight, and begins to form ice known as firn EDIT: i supose you did cover this point, but you called firn "neve".

    No mention of Basal Sapping which is when freeze-thaw action works on the base of the glacier

    No mention of Bergschrund which is the material that falls to the ground at the back of the corrie when the glacier begins to tear away and move downhill

    No mention of rotational slip (which is what causes the bergschrund)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,115 ✭✭✭chrismon


    i wonder if i use them will they get me some marks as i dont no much about Glaciation!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,299 ✭✭✭oeNeo


    Mutant if you have any notes on your pc will you upload them?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,285 ✭✭✭Smellyirishman


    Just so ya know a bergshund is actually the *space* that is left behind and the glacier begins to be pulled out from its seat.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,943 ✭✭✭Mutant_Fruit


    damn, that would explain why i never got full marks when i tried explaining bergschrund.... i wonder why my feckin teacher didn;t point that out before.

    Thanks for the tip.

    As for geog notes, i'll scan in what i have now (have to go to neighbours to do it). Expect em in about an hour, unless i decide to have dinner soon :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,285 ✭✭✭Smellyirishman


    LOL wtf do you live, in the middle of the bog of allen or somethin!!!!

    ;thinks of australian simpsons episode and breaks down in histerics! , thanks!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,943 ✭✭✭Mutant_Fruit


    rofl, now that i read it back, it does sound strange...

    Let me explain... i'm still in my pj's :p Havn;t bothered getting dressed yet. And i'm still working up the energy to do it.

    Leave me alone!

    /me hides


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,943 ✭✭✭Mutant_Fruit


    can't get the stuff scanned in. sorry. If only if i had been asked earlier :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,943 ✭✭✭Mutant_Fruit


    stupid triple post....

    Anyway, can i get some quick revision notes on tracing the history of settlement. I;ve lost my notes on the points to look out for.

    Basically all i need is a little list like the following

    Stone Age/Bronze age: 50000 years ago; fullact fia, burial grounds.

    Celts: 500 years ago castles, placenames such as Baile/bally etc.

    I know those are wrong, but i need the right ones.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 35 Corona


    pre-christian: megalithic tombs, fulacht fias, dolmens, stone circle, standing stone
    Early christian: High cross, round tower, towns beginning with kill-, Cil-, Well-
    Norman: bridging points, castles, tower houses, churches,
    Plantation: Towns with landlords name - Charlestown etc. Market house, diamond, desmesne

    Think theyre the main ones but haven't learned that yet so sorry if I've eliminated some.

    Is learning 3 essays (Division of Italy, Division of Spain and Fieldwork) narrowing geography course down too much to get a B???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,080 ✭✭✭✭Tusky


    i just did fieldwork , went over mapwork and ariel photo , Italy + France ! Im looking for B.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18 V3003


    is italy considered an eastern european country??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,285 ✭✭✭Smellyirishman


    I doubt it :S

    Hum France and glaciation better come up, or at least Spain but I know France much more

    YEAY GO France maybe they will come up cause they just won?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,299 ✭✭✭oeNeo


    YEAY GO France maybe they will come up cause they just won?

    Hahah

    Anyway Im the same, France and glaciaion, PLEAAASEE.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 35 Corona


    I'm sure the majority of you are happy cos both France and Glaciation came up. I, however, am still wallowing in self-pity. No Italy. No Spain. No Norway. Forced to do core/periphery.
    No physical geography studied in our class, had to do aerial photograph which wasn't the nicest.
    There goes the B1 I was hoping for.


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 729 ✭✭✭popinfresh


    Yeah ffs. BTW, please tell my that was a HEP station in then bottom right corner of the photo :confused: The part (iii) of the arial photo was grand though


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 35 Corona


    Erm, not sure. Educated guess anyways!

    Yeah part (iii) was fine. Shame about part (i).

    Screwed over with Dickinson and now Regional Division. I have bad omens about history tomorrow!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 355 ✭✭Sarunas


    Originally posted by popinfresh
    Yeah ffs. BTW, please tell my that was a HEP station in then bottom right corner of the photo :confused: The part (iii) of the arial photo was grand though

    Im not sure what the hell it is, but i wrote somesort of a dam...

    What was your first reason? some people wrote about the bridges, but silly me had to write about concrete river bed between the bridges.(?)

    Well atleast they gave 30 marks for the sketch. Plus, i did well on france and glaciers.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 474 ✭✭Berger


    i said that the trees planted upstream hold the soil together with thir extensive root system at times of flood.

    I also waffled about the damn thing on the bottom right


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,828 ✭✭✭Healio


    i said that thing was another bridge!!!

    i also said the little platform just after the top bridge were the boats were was a modification.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,299 ✭✭✭oeNeo


    Handy enough paper I thought, although my question 1 was pretty damn bad. I just forgot what to say. Part c was really complete and utter waffle. I forgot the dates/era's of the Celts/Normans etc. too :/ Oh well, no more geog \o/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 355 ✭✭Sarunas


    Originally posted by Berger
    i said that the trees planted upstream hold the soil together with thir extensive root system at times of flood.

    I also waffled about the damn thing on the bottom right

    The way i understood the question was "What the people do which affects the river", so i dint write about the tress planted to prevent soil erosion. I didnt write about the bridges because i thought that it doesnt really affect the river.

    The thingy might be a water treatment plant, cause it is refered in here:ballina

    Maybe someone might want to call balina tourist information centre and ask what is it:
    info centre gives the following:

    [Snip]
    Contact Manager
    Phone 096 70848
    Address Cathedral Road
    [Snip]

    I might give a call...


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 729 ✭✭✭popinfresh


    Ah well, i just said the water levels look to be different on each side. It could have been anything really as far as we're concerned, I hope they don't deduct marks if it wasn't a damn


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 90 ✭✭$lattman


    Does anyone know what the story with the two rail stations beside eachother was, one of them wasn't connected to the rail line.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,680 ✭✭✭Skyuser


    Originally posted by popinfresh
    Yeah ffs. BTW, please tell my that was a HEP station in then bottom right corner of the photo :confused: The part (iii) of the arial photo was grand though

    It wasn't a HEP, its another bridge. I'm from Ballina and was delighted with this map.
    Also the other train station it just nothing, I don't know were they got that from, but the map is quite old, as all the new development in the town was not there.


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  • Subscribers Posts: 9,716 ✭✭✭CuLT


    Originally posted by Skyuser
    Also the other train station it just nothing

    Well feck that. They can change the marking scheme to account for the inaccuracy.

    No way a student not from Ballina could have known it didn't exist.

    (too many double negatives?)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 355 ✭✭Sarunas


    Originally posted by Skyuser
    It wasn't a HEP, its another bridge. I'm from Ballina and was delighted with this map.
    Also the other train station it just nothing, I don't know were they got that from, but the map is quite old, as all the new development in the town was not there.

    That didnt look like a bridge. Is there some sorf of concrete river bed between the bridges? cause the dry river bed with some triangles looks like concrete...

    If you put any personal knowledge in your answers(which isnt seen on the photo or the map) they gonna take marks away from you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,256 ✭✭✭c0rk3r


    1)Fieldstudy - learnt word for word.Jc nearly fcuked me over on this one
    2)Physical - perfect.Nice easy secondary question
    3)Ordance Survey Map - part (i)was a gem
    4)Core/Periphery -chose Italy, Plain of Lombardy. and Mezz for the secondary question

    Everything i studied came up!.ha


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,464 ✭✭✭daveyjoe


    Originally posted by Skyuser
    It wasn't a HEP, its another bridge. I'm from Ballina and was delighted with this map.
    Obviously if you're from Ballina then you're right, but I can't believe that that thing is a bridge. I thought it was either a HEP generator ar a dam of some sorts I went with HEP just because I had a lot to write about HEP.

    I've attached the photo, so you can see what I'm talking about.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,943 ✭✭✭Mutant_Fruit


    to be honest, i hadn't a clue what it was. i spent 5 minutes staring at it, and then just didn't refer to it at all. Had not a clue as to what it was.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 56 ✭✭Envy


    For the second part of the glaciation question, which disadvantage did people use?

    I had to spend five minutes making one up, before writing down something about communication, and chucking in an obscure example.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,943 ✭✭✭Mutant_Fruit


    my advantage was that eskers left behind after glaciers were useful for raw building materials. My disadvantage was that sometimes glacial soil is ****e quality, and land where it is deposited becomes water-logged and unfarmable. My example was the midlands, which is one giant blanket bog.

    My origional advantage was that depositied soils were very good quality sometimes, and made the land extremely fertile. My examples for that were paris basin, and the golden vale. Unfortunately since i could only think of one disadvangate, i couldn't use this point, so i had to cross it off, and start again with the point i mentioned above.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 56 ✭✭Envy


    My friend came up with a good one. He mentioned that drumlins make it difficult for roads: they have to wind their way around them, too expensive to go through them etc.

    Damn him with his glacial knowledge.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 408 ✭✭purplepolkadot


    what in the name of sweet leonard cohen were those crazeee triangular things in the river moy?!?!??! cos i answered that question like the knob end i am without a ****ing clue


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,746 ✭✭✭Drag00n79


    BTW, please tell my that was a HEP station in then bottom right corner of the photo

    It's a weir to regulate the flow of water into the river. It is not "another bridge".


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,299 ✭✭✭oeNeo


    For the second part of the glaciation question I said that glaciated regions are great attractions for tourists but that drumlins were unsuitable for farming and that other glaciated regions were a hinderence to building roads, or something, can't really remember but it was along those lines.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,943 ✭✭✭Mutant_Fruit


    It's a weir to regulate the flow of water into the river. It is not "another bridge".
    i thought it looked like a lough thingy like they have in canals, but i knew that wasn't a canal, so i thought i was just crazy. Looks like i wasnt too far off!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 355 ✭✭Sarunas


    Originally posted by Shamrok
    It's a weir to regulate the flow of water into the river. It is not "another bridge".

    Fsck. Lots of people got it wrong (including me).

    But wasnt there a weir on the last years photo(carlow)? Its in a left background. They differ alot, so it wasnt a weir?

    There will be a row between geo teachers + students and the people who set the papers about this. I know there excuse :"The sketchmap was really easy, it had 30 marks, its not our fault that the students did not know what it was."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,256 ✭✭✭c0rk3r


    Drumlins = Boulder clay deposition = Fertile soil ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,943 ✭✭✭Mutant_Fruit


    i thought Drumlins were the long hill's made by glacier, which were created by erosion. They are typically up to 250metres long and up to 50m in hieght i thought...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,256 ✭✭✭c0rk3r


    Sample A1 answer on the postive aspects of glaciation i had on my comp.

    (1) (Positive aspects)Agriculture

    Lowland areas experienced glacial deposition.Boulder clay deposition is common in parts of ireland.Intensive/commerical levels of agriculture are possible in such areas when

    -Deep deposits of fertile boulder clay exist.
    -the boulder clay consists of various types of rock and clay that are rich in minerals and nutients (depends on the parent rock material e.g limestone).
    -the landscape is gently sloping and well drained

    Examples of such areas in Ireland include;

    -cereal farming -co wexford; good yields are got from crops of barely, wheat, sugar-beet,fruit and vegetables.

    -Dairy farming-Golden vale in munster;high milk yields are possible because of the regular cuts of grass for silage and fodder.

    Agriculture is Ireland most important primary industry
    The economic benefits are;

    -Employment-Jobs are created directly in the primary sector but also in the secondary(food proccessing,farn equipment, etc) and service industries (transport,marketing etc)

    -Exports-much of the farm produce is exported and this improves both irelands balance of payments and balance of trade.

    (2) (negative aspects) Avalanches- not much you can say really expect waffle abit.Loss of life etc

    Bleh.forget about it and move on.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,299 ✭✭✭oeNeo


    Shit. My teacher is a retard, she always told us that drumlins were terrible for agriculture


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,080 ✭✭✭✭Tusky


    Originally posted by c0rk3r

    Core/Periphery -chose Italy, Plain of Lombardy. and Mezz for the secondary question
    [/B]


    There wasnt a basic core periphery question , do you mean you wrote about mezz as regards the new member states ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,746 ✭✭✭Drag00n79


    Originally posted by Sarunas

    But wasnt there a weir on the last years photo(carlow)? Its in a left background. They differ alot, so it wasnt a weir?"

    It is a weir. It's a salmon weir known locally as "the boxes". Basically it was a set of salmon traps on the Moy (best salmon river in Europe). Due to protests from local anglers, they're not in use anymore, but would have been when this photo was taken (circa '97 or '98). Here's a better picture of them:
    http://www.castlebar.ie/photos/muirsind/ballina/moy08.JPG


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14 SlushPuppie


    I actually thought the exam finished at 4.30 and i was rushing like crazy trying to fit everything in. Then I realised that I still had 30 min left,so I went back over everything and fleshed each answer out to A standard. Unfortunately I forgot to even answer part (b) of Glaciation,which was a shame becuase i knew the answer to it. But I worked out that it's only worth about 8% of the overall mark,so I can still get an A2 :D .


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