English Higher Level Paper 2

informedboy

literary genre is guaranteed this year,it has not appeared since 2001 and is not there next year,themes and issues is most likely for the other mode as cultural context has appeared for the past 2 years and themes and issues wasnt there last year,for anyone doing macbeth question the imagery in the play,the character of banquo and the witches are most likely to appear,for the poetry emily dickinson is a guarantee,patrick kavanagh most likely as its his centenary this year so it would be totally direspectful not to have him on the paper,good luck all!

Lantis

I hate to be a downer, but since it's his centenary everyone'll be studying him.

Making it a good reason to exclude him if the examiners are feeling evil.

informedboy

not at all,they would have to be mad not to put him on,he will be there!

subway_ie

Originally posted by informedboy
not at all,they would have to be mad not to put him on,he will be there!

He might be. He probably will be. But you can never be certain. And with thirteen hours to go, there's no point trying to second-guess the examiners and start revising him. Sitck to the 1-3 poets you've done well so far (or the 5 for the total non-risk takers out there) and kep revising for the rest of the night. Don't bother staying up past about 11-12 tonight, or getting up at 3/4/5/6, it'll just be counterproductive. At this stage, you either know it or you don't.

smelly girl

where are you getting your sources?

are you just pulling these out of your arse or do you know something?

subway_ie

Originally posted by smelly girl
where are you getting your sources?

are you just pulling these out of your arse or do you know something?

Apparently he's "informed". Or, more likely, just making wild stabs in the dark like the rest of us.

informedboy

yes i have sources cant say much more other than follow my advice!

Healio

are you or any member of your family a printer by any chance??

subway_ie

Originally posted by Healio
are you or any member of your family a printer by any chance??

Isn't all the printing done by foreign printing firms who are under confidentiality agreements?

Suaimhneach

I shouldnt be reading this before I go to bed.

Feckin last minute!!

Rar!!

*yawn*

Go to bed people. You can learn nothing between now and tomorrow!

Healio

Originally posted by subway_ie
Isn't all the printing done by foreign printing firms who are under confidentiality agreements?

i thought that was a rumour.

subway_ie

Originally posted by Healio
i thought that was a rumour.

The foreign part might be... but they'd have to have some kind of contract whereby the printer would get into serious sh1t for letting people see the exams/telling people what's on. Just think about the costs/logistics involved in changing the exams if they were leaked...

Healio

ye i suppose so, we just dont know how its done. well i dont!!!

Kold

Originally posted by Jesjes

Go to bed people. You can learn nothing between now and tomorrow!

I plan to prove you wrong.

mattg

Im studing Mahon, Dickinson and Wordsworth

And Ive gone with Genre, theme and issue. One of them has to come up.

For MacBeth: Lady Mc Character, KINGSHIP, And I could really pull up an anwser for any other thing that comes up. All you need to do is know your play, and ull be ok.

Oh Well, we'll see....:dunno:

elle

I'm all for this kavangh dickinson prediction and although I'd love them to come up I just feel it's crazy to totally rely on these rumours, I mean it is quite possible that they'll purposely not put them on but sure we can only wait and see.But come on the witches and theme and issue, that would be the most ideal paper ever!!!!

Healio

just imagine them heartless bastards at the exam commission put on frost hopkins wordsworth and heaney, i know id be fcuked, it would be good if they asked two questions on one poet aswell!!!

elle

frost heaney hopkins i can do-two qs on one poet is pushing it, i wud have to march up to the dept ed and smack whoever made the paper for being an unthoughtful selfish dictatorial bastard!

Healio

that was just a little dream i had last night!!!!

NeoSlicerZ

dear god, i hope they aren't evil.
I'm studying Dickinson,Hopkins, Mahon

subway_ie

Spent most of the night dreaming of Dickinson/Silas Marner answers... It's a sad, sad day.

Tusky

informed boy my arse , where the **** was dickinson ? and you were way out with mancbeth too.

PrecariousNuts

I literally cried with joy when I saw Kavanagh on that paper, same with the comparative. Macbeth was ugh, lame as usual but I did two killer essays which should make up for it. Easy unseen poem too. I was really tempted, for the second half to write "No this doesn't make me hopeful, I've just read the Macbeth question"

I'm confident that I got a high B overall. My essay was one that I got an A in before (my only A in 2 years, she marked that tough) and Freud would have been proud of my analysis of text one paper 1. The part B on text 2 was tricky but I managed.

Sarunas

Trust no one. There could not have been a leak, these things spread to rapidly, department would have already knew. Do they make out two papers in case one gets leaked?

I relied on mahon, plath, and kavanagh. Feelt very lucky.

The atmosphere was very intense when the superindendant was giving out the paper. People were praying for mahon... Our prayers were answered. Thank You God.

To bad culcural context did not come up, i knew that better than a themes essay, besides we newer did genre.


How everyone else do?

DeFIANCE

BAH!! DEVIL PAPER!! I did 2 really good pages for the comparative , 2 and a bit pages for the poetry on kavanagh as it only said to make refrence to one or two poems, i chose iniskeen road:a july evening. and hospital . and for macbeth it was gay , i didnt quote nearly enough and ran out of steam, i also thought the exam finished at 3:20 for some reason and by then i had only 2 sections done :dunno:

elle

was very very happy with the paper overall! in fairness I was hoping Dickinson would come up coz i'm in love with her but had enough info to cover all except mahon so did Hopkins. Macbeth essay, I did the one about Macbeth's character, was fine, although kinda wanted evilness or witchs, i was still happy with end result. I was just so relieved that theme and issue came up on comparative, it was so beautiful!!!Ah well two down eight to go!!!!

PrecariousNuts

Originally posted by DeFIANCE
2 and a bit pages for the poetry on kavanagh as it only said to make refrence to one or two poems, i chose iniskeen road:a july evening. and hospital

I think that was just a suggestion, I did 6 poems, what an epic essay 5 or 6 pages.

Mutant_Fruit

I LOVE YOU GOD! That english paper was by far the easiest one ever seen.

Paper1: Did Text1 question A and text 2 question B, not too bad at all, and did a 4 page essay (slightly plagerised from good ole Night Watch by terry pratchett)

Paper2:The Kavanagh question and plath questions could NOT have been easier. All they were were "Do you like the porm, why?". C'mon, there is nothing hard about that. I get my easy nice and concise and refernced only 5 poems (i left 2 out on purpose). I went for Shancoduff (to show he loved the ares he grew up in), Christmas childhood (to show he loved his parents), Iniskeen road (to show it wasn't all fun and games in his childhood), Advent (to show his need to be rebord) and lastly Canal Bank Walk (to show how succesful his rebirth was).

The Comparitive question was virtually identical to the one i did for my mock, to be honest, there is not much variance they could have put in that question... so i did fairly well in that too.

The MacBeth question was truly orgasmic. It was so easy. All i did was spend 20 minutes planning the fooker, thinking of all the points where he showed signs of ruthlessness (got 7 points on that). Then all the areas where he showed ambition (got 4-5 points) then all the areas he showed regret/remorse (scraped together 3). And did a mix-n-match with those, and wrote a good essay.

In my opinion, i wrote the best english i ever did today, and i won't match it again. My usual standard in english is a mere 68%, so i expect a B2. Roll on maths paper 1! woo woo woo!

Chris_533976

Just for the record, back when I was in school one of my teachers told me that the papers are printed in Holland.

Mutant_Fruit

and a bit pages for the poetry on kavanagh as it only said to make refrence to one or two poems, i chose iniskeen road:a july evening. and hospital

You were f'in mad to only reference two. Unless you wrote a feckin deadly essay, you will be lucky to score above a C... Always reference as MUCH as you can, its the golden rule. Its done now, theres nothing you can change, good luck!

Healio

there was a united roar of happiness as every1 in our centre read the literary genre, then when the poetry page was turned over the roar got louder, best paper ever.

four page literary genre, three page kavanagh, three page macbeth, and a two page mahon just in case.

subway_ie

I found paper one to be OK, nothing too great. I did text 1 question B and text 2 question A. The question A selection seemed to be the hardest part - the ideal would be to do text 1, Q a and b. Didn't fail, but definetly didn't get over a C. Composition choices were ok, but again mine was a bit ****. Did the social rejection one, lots of rhetoric. Don't think it was very cohesive though, lots of jumping from point to point.

Paper 2 - another fcuk up. The Silas Marner question should have been gorgeous (love). But I fecked it all up. Rambled on telling the story for too long, didn't get a chance to elaborate on the "love and happiness" thing. My ending paragraph was the most unbelievably crap ending ever. My comparative was also of a high quality of ****. Totally lacked cohesion and my comparisons were weak. More like after-thoughts than the basis of my answer. Crap. Unseen poetry was ok. I think. Could somebody post their interpretation of the poem and the general gist of their answer (question 2 preferably)?.
Poetry was unbelievably bad. I was 100% sure last night that Dickinson would come up, didn't both reading anybody elses. Then I go into the exam and nearly feel like crying when I don't see any dickinson. Did Hopkins in the end, couldn't even remember the names of the poems. Got ONE feckin quote in "the world is charged with the grandeur of God". And thats only because it was in the feckin title. Used instress/inscape alot though, which apparently is a good thing. Overall, have a general feeling of being screwed.

Swifty

For Text 2 question B was it necessary to write it in a special format? It said 'write the text of his report' so I just wrote it in a normal essay format. When I left the exam centre a guy told me I could lose marks immediately for not using the report format, that true? :mad:

Anyway for the rest of the paper I'm sure I did fairly well, wrote a decent essay on childhood memories and my comprehension was grand I thought.

Paper 2 was just lashing down everything I knew, nothing I didn't know came up so I was flyin. The Plath question was so easy. Overall I think I did alright but its English so you never really know.

subway_ie

Originally posted by Healio
four page literary genre, three page kavanagh, three page macbeth, and a two page mahon just in case.

Just as a matter of interest, how many words do you have on a line, on average?

subway_ie

Originally posted by Swifty
For Text 2 question B was it necessary to write it in a special format? It said 'write the text of his report' so I just wrote it in a normal essay format. When I left the exam centre a guy told me I could lose marks immediately for not using the report format, that true? :mad:

That's the only thing that stopped me from doing that question, which was grand if it wasn't for the format question. I was going to do the standard report fromat from business, but thought I'd be better off just not doing it just in case. I'd say that format might have been important, although it was a bit ambiguous, especially when it's a question B...

Mutant_Fruit

from what i remember of the poem...

2 (i): I choose the line that went something like "and hear the singing from their horse throats/tear-clogged thorats"

I choose it on the basis that this shows how the poet wishes her people to be free. She wants them to be free, and hopes that one day they will be able to sing songs from their culture without fear of reprival.

(ii) Hopeful, as the poet talks about "catching sunshine" and talks of other things that could be done by the people in the future...

For Text 2 question B was it necessary to write it in a special format? It said 'write the text of his report' so I just wrote it in a normal essay format.

I agree. It just wanted the body of the text, not the flapps and add-ons that go with a report... i did standard essay format

Healio

Originally posted by subway_ie
Just as a matter of interest, how many words do you have on a line, on average?

eh, come again?

Mutant_Fruit

Paper1) I wrote nearly 5 pages on my essay, 1 page on my section 1, nearly 1 on my section B

Paper 2) 4 pages on Macbeth, 3 pages on comparitive and 3.5 pages on poetry. 2/3 of a page on unseen poetry.

I average 9 words per line.

Swifty

Originally posted by subway_ie
That's the only thing that stopped me from doing that question, which was grand if it wasn't for the format question. I was going to do the standard report fromat from business, but thought I'd be better off just not doing it just in case. I'd say that format might have been important, although it was a bit ambiguous, especially when it's a question B...

That's annoying me now, I didn't think I just started my answer. If I do lose marks I hope it's not much and hope my essay can make up for it

subway_ie

Originally posted by Healio
eh, come again?

How many words do you normally fit on a line? On an average line (on most lines really) I'd get about 10-11 words. So I wrote:
Paper 1:
Question A - 2.5 Pages
Question B - 3 Pages
Composition - 4.5 Pages
Paper 2:
Single: 5 Pages
Comparative: 5 Pages
Unseen Poetry: 2 Pages
Poetry: 4 Pages.

subway_ie

Originally posted by Swifty
That's annoying me now, I didn't think I just started my answer. If I do lose marks I hope it's not much and hope my essay can make up for it

You'll know when they release the marking schemes in late July, so only about a month and a half to wait. Can't have been *that* many points going for layout, if any. I'd say a max of 10.

stuey

i think this "informedboy" should be banned for ruining some many peoples test. I was smart and paid no attention but still what a wanker.

NO MORE ENGLISH EVER

Healio

id say 14 words plus, i typed out a essay on kavanagh which i had written 4 pages long, font 12 it was six pages in microsoft word, if that helps.

conZ

No paper 1 on me at the moment.

Comprehensions were simple, I thought. I answered B in Comp. 2 and A in Comp 3. My report on that new guy at work was alright. I started with Employee : Paul Worel and then went into the report. I meant to sign the report ''Mr. Puddleworth'' at the end, but forgot.

Comp 3, Question A, I only got part 1 done. I left this section till last and ran out of time.

I started the morning with the essay - one I had prepared, slightly plagarised from Band of Brothers. The ****ing essay title's they gave us were brutal though. I wrote on Title 6 - something about power, or strength or some ****. Wrote about 5 and a half pages of an essay, vaguely implied the title in one or two sentences.
I was going to finish at about 3 pages, but there was only one plot in them, and I wanted to so a sub-plot. Spent too much time on the essay, though I had to finish it - If I didn't I'd lose a good few marks I'm sure.
Essay worked out,... quite alright.

I suppose I wrote about 10 or so pages in Paper 1, with a page of plan for the essay.


Paper 2 in hand - I think the bitch of the supervisor took my Paper 1. I've got times, pages and notes written on each page.

Section 1: Decided to do the Macbeth question after looking at section 2. My texts are Silas Marner, On the waterfront and Wuthering Heights - they all revolve around the theme of love, so I done Macbeth Q1 - ''ruthless ambition'' and ''tortured by regret''. Wrote 4 and a half pages.

Section 2: Themes or Issues - Q1. Wrote on OTW, SM and WH on the theme of Love. Wrote 3 and three quarter pages on that.

Section 3: A - Unseen Poem I left until I was finished everything else. I flew through it, wrote about a page with a few quotes thrown in. It's only worth 20 marks, but my Kavanagh question wasn't as good as i'd hoped. I wrote the response to the above poem - Q1.
B - Prescribed Poetry. I pissed myslef laughing when I couldn't see Dickinson. Everyones jaws dropped in the room. A lot of people I know were banking on her. I was banking on Kavanagh, and the question was so general!. I only wrote on Inniskeen and Canal Bank. Got mixed up with Canal Bank and Lines Written in the end, so didn't write much on CBW. I wrote 3 pages in all.

That's what, 4 1/2, 3 3/4, 1, 3 Pages = 12 and a bit pages.

Delighted with it all. It was all fairly general (Kavanagh, Themes and Issues, Macbeth was a bit of a **** , Essay and Comprehensions were alright. Pity I didnt get to finish the Comp 3.

Maths and Irish, both Ordinary tomorrow. Not looking forward .
To bed!

purplepolkadot

so yeah, i prayed to bob dylan wed. morning for an easy, open question on mahon (oh and kavanagh and dickinson for me mates) and he came through.

dylan delivers people. i asked him for no theorems in maths today aswell, and he works.


I LIKED OUR ENGLISH PAPERS!!


i did mahon/the ruthless ambition for macbeth

the two part question on themes and issues for the shift in power in relationships in amongst women/cinema paradiso/playboy.--- the tipping of the salt in amonst women against the fire in cinema paradiso, then when christy hits mahon the proper 'clout of the loy' in playboy.

in paper one i did the story about paul. paul moved to youghal because of decentralisation. i saw the word 'titter' and went for it.
i hadn't prepared it...i just went a bit nuts. i did a story plan though, wich was new to me! oh and i did the welcoming talk to the first years. cos i'm so luvvly.

i wrote on five poems in the poetry which is now seeming like waaaaaay too much!!!
rathlin, as it should be, chinese restaurant, after the titanic and grandfather.
i said he only used simple language and images. then i said, except when he uses ****e like 'oneirc' and 'somnolent' to isolate the reader cos they should be cut off like the island is from civilisation. which is a bit contradictory.

in the unseen i chose the one bout her wishing to capture their laughter in a bowl.

in macbeth im managed to wangle in my 'i feel macbeth greets the air-drawn dagger with a weary air of sad familiarity, having already killed duncan a thousand times in his mind.' and that that was unlike duncy, cos he just had the 'cursed thoughts' but left them be. i get that into every macbeth q i do!!! i said that showed how ruthless his ambition was and ****ed on for ages.

i did bout eleven/twelve pages, in both, but i do have rather small handwriting.

PrecariousNuts

The amount of pages I did can only be represented in scientific notation