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psychic Protection

  • 04-06-2004 7:28pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 153 ✭✭


    Today as I conversed with an acquaintance of mine on msn messenger regarding the fore coming ghost hunt, it dawned on me, that the people here who are undertaking this task and adventure, regardless of being open to the after life or not may actively encounter a hazardous situation, be it one of spiritual origin or of mental complexity.

    Because of the potential dangers I do consider (from my ignorant point of view) psychic protection an essential technique to learn or at least develop (as most people already employ it in one form or another), as we are all open to psychological or psychic attacks.

    People innately feel more secure when they call on a protective power regardless of your belief system or spiritual intunement we as products of the human psyche can always find some sort of psychological security in the belief (or pretence) that we are watched over or guarded by a higher source, and those who feel more comfortable in focusing on the higher consciousness and subconscious visualisation technique can offer the same effect.

    If you are of the belief that there is a higher power, words of prayer are always encouraged.

    Most people of a catholic background feel that the Lord’s prayer or/and invoking Guardian and Archangels (Mostly Michael – who governs guardianship) who they feel can provide this protection, I even know some people who could be portrayed as strong willed atheists who use the above, as they feel it helps then tap into psychological archetypes which to them can equally bring this sense of safeguard.

    Retarding visualisation, universally recognised symbols can sometimes connect with us more deeply, so some people often mentally draw or envision a circle of light around them (often a dome effect is opted for as this coincides with the persons electro magnetic field or more commonly expressed there aura).

    The importance here is not how this is done, as each individual will adapt or create a certain frame of mind (or spiritual energy) that will be of sufficient strength to provide this protection, essentially its about it being done…

    Not only will these actions for those who share the spiritual view call forth the aid of (however they perceive) deity, it will also as we live in a chaotic world and our thoughts ourselves are of a chaotic nature be of very valuable equity as a way of submerging any sub conscious desires that may (and in the past have) manifested themselves when such sensitive and emotional intense situations come to pass.

    Personally as a practicing Wiccan I feel that by saying a simple prayer and by wearing my Diana stone this protection on both a psychic and psychological level can be both created and maintained.

    I would be very eager to hear others point of view on this subject and maybe share there own personal methods as not only would I find it interesting it could possible help others out there.

    Thank you for reading
    Satori


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,180 ✭✭✭keu


    prayers are good..... :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 153 ✭✭satori


    hehehehe

    not the best for a first post is it. hehehehe


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,180 ✭✭✭keu


    it was a wonderful first post. :ninja:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,135 ✭✭✭KlodaX


    That was an excellent post. Thanks.

    I completely agree.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,180 ✭✭✭keu


    my past experiences with some whacko americans and an english aetheist, put me off the subject for a long time.
    ..it's so good to be back in Ireland.

    bdb..sent you pm


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,633 ✭✭✭stormkeeper


    Imagining yourself with a white light around you can help as well, as far as I know. My mum actually does that. Saying that though, in the last investigation, my mum sent the spirits of my passed away family members to protect me...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 607 ✭✭✭malico


    satori,

    While we all have our own ways of protecting ourselves on this investigations, I belive that as a practicing Wiccan, and someone that seems to have looked into this aspect thouragly, I would like you to be our "Head of Psychic Security" on this trip to Charleville. Perhaps you could lead us in a prayer for our protction after dinner when we begin our investigation?

    Ian

    Lead Investigator, PRAI


    (PS: Do I have you information. Could you PM me your Real name, as this is what I';d have on the Database)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,180 ✭✭✭keu


    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&postid=1680427#post1680427


    is there a ghost messing about with the server?
    kennett can you turn on that emf device and hold it up to the message board and see of it reacts lol.
    (came in with satori)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,633 ✭✭✭stormkeeper


    Oh, It'll react alright... It'll pick up the EMF Fields in my monitor. I'd need to be on-site to investigate...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,180 ✭✭✭keu


    I don't need to be onsite.
    its a suicide. (or something relative in nature)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,633 ✭✭✭stormkeeper


    A suicide?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,180 ✭✭✭keu


    its gone ..for now....
    someone who was abused (had something to do with faith..so thinking priest or some catholic school institution)
    very pissed off they were too.
    name..thomas or mr thomas came up. don't know if its name of abuser of relative to spirit.
    not sure if it was suicide, although it felt like it, but definately depressed, lost and confused (usually points to suicide)
    anyways..its gone now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,633 ✭✭✭stormkeeper


    Where abouts is this? I'm afraid you lost me... O_o


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,180 ✭✭✭keu


    for someone who came here kennett.
    don't you get it yet?
    spirit is not confined to a place.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 153 ✭✭satori


    Malico,

    Thank you for your very kind gesture and vote of confidence but alas a prior engagement means I will not be able to attend the Charleville investigation.
    I would certainly be interested in any further projects you may have in mind and will gladly pm my details to you.

    (Once I figure out how to do so)

    Although I will not be with you on the day, my thoughts will be with you all.


    Keu,

    From your above posts I take it you have mediumistic ability’s, it is reassuring and enlightening to know that we have some one so in tune with the spiritual realm among us (it itself is a gift that I have tried not to develop as I do not consider myself strong enough to hold such insight).

    I do understand that anything can act as a medium for the manifestation of spiritual energy and that the net itself is not excluded from this, but what interests me is your reference to a possible suicide, I do not know of others opinions and experiences but I myself have never encountered a spirit of a suicide victim.

    Rest assured this is in no way an attempt to devaluate what you have sensed but just an effort to gain a deeper insight into this topic.

    I as an individual have never encountered the soul form of such a tragic person (and if all truth be told my past experiences with spiritual entities can not be validated in any way, apart from my belief in them).

    I have always thought that such people, so engrossed with sorrow and inner turmoil remained on this plane until they came to understand of there actions and choose to move on beyond past pain (again this stems from a spiritual belief and perhaps my own preconception that a personality as well as the soul form remains intact after death).

    What I mean to say as that they to me seemed to remain stagnant, almost in one form “dieing” until that transformation takes place.

    Perhaps it is that their existence is beyond my span of awareness and sensitivity (which would not be difficult) or that for whatever reason I may shield myself from them.

    I would be very interested to hear your opinion (and that of the others on this board) about this subject.

    Thank you again for reading

    Satori.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,180 ✭✭✭keu


    I do understand that anything can act as a medium for the manifestation of spiritual energy and that the net itself is not excluded from this, but what interests me is your reference to a possible suicide, I do not know of others opinions and experiences but I myself have never encountered a spirit of a suicide victim.

    Rest assured this is in no way an attempt to devaluate what you have sensed but just an effort to gain a deeper insight into this topic.

    I've been doing this for five years, ( don't consider myself as a medium, more of a channel..ie: I get to see through their eyes) suicides are always the easiest to determine, they're energy is stronger (like they are shouting)..things really do go bump, like the server going kaputt..happens a lot on websites which deal with this stuff (mediumship). The previous site I used went down all the time, each time we transferred to a temporary site, those would crash too, and eventually we ended up changing servers. Coincidently, the spirit was for someone attending that site (which I was desperately trying to leave)..and was confirmed.
    Computers are hugely significant with regard to spiritual manifestation. (as much as tv's, phones, and other electrical equipment,)

    I don't consider your response an attempt to devalue what I sensed, like I said, I've been doing this long enough to trust my feelings and to go with what I get, and I'm quite used to the suspicion of those who don't understand.
    (it itself is a gift that I have tried not to develop as I do not consider myself strong enough to hold such insight)
    I can assure you, it's not something I tried to develop, it came with the territory that I was working in and many is the time that I would gladly wish I did not sense those things. I would love to be able to "shield" myself.

    Generally mediums will not work or even attempt to exchange energy with a "negative" entity, (they shield) but I have always considered negativity as a perception and once you get beyond the fear (and anger) and accept it, its almost as if that perception transfers to spirit and they stop being afraid too. funny..then they go away. It's like showing them the light.

    (how do I know it's not just my own perception or mind?...I always get validation and confirmation from others....always, thats how this whole thing started to begin with)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,633 ✭✭✭stormkeeper


    A good way of protecting yourself, as far as I know is imagining yourself enveloped in white light... Officially, it's meant to be the colour for the situation, but that's not always an idea, so I'd go for the white light...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 84 ✭✭Ro_79


    I am Wiccan myself, and I think its a good idea to protect yourself as well.

    I am going to be wearing a quartz crystal which has a engraving of a guardian on it, which is supposed to protect me and I am going to do a proection spell on friday before I go down.

    Anyway the fact that we are going to say a protection prayer whilst down there, makes me feel better as well as I was a little worried about the negitive spirits that might be waiting for us there....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 84 ✭✭Ro_79


    it is also good to have some crystals or gem stones in your pocket which will protect you from negitive forces...

    I just found out Tiger Eye crystal, is very good for aura protection as I heard spirits can travel into your aura ripping you of all the energy that you have...

    If anyone wants a list of which various stones are good for which situation let me know and I will write a list....


    Also a bag of salt is good for proection against evil, so thats one of the things on my list as well...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 153 ✭✭satori


    my dear, the greatest protective advice you have is yourself, you dont need objects or chants to acheive a level of spiritual protection 9although i do agree it certainly make you feel far more comfertable).

    No one should ever feel that they need something to feel protected... after all the true power lies within you.

    Satori


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,339 ✭✭✭✭tman


    fashion a hat out of a stolen birds nest and some tin foil. we didn't have any of these fancy "prayers" in my day!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 84 ✭✭Ro_79


    hmm you have a good point there...I suppose once you have faith anything is possible.

    Personally I just wanted to have something with me for comfort more than anything else.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    A Vodka Coke and some jelly shots :) Its actually funny what ghost investigators bring for a bit of comfort. I know of people that bring Toy Light Sabres, their favourate comic book and so on. You are your own protection. Make sure you have the best gear and are equipt for the night and you should be fine. With all respect to satori if you fell comfortable with a psycic bring one too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,730 ✭✭✭✭simu


    I've been doing this for five years, ( don't consider myself as a medium, more of a channel..ie: I get to see through their eyes) suicides are always the easiest to determine, they're energy is stronger (like they are shouting)..things really do go bump, like the server going kaputt..happens a lot on websites which deal with this stuff (mediumship). The previous site I used went down all the time, each time we transferred to a temporary site, those would crash too, and eventually we ended up changing servers. Coincidently, the spirit was for someone attending that site (which I was desperately trying to leave)..and was confirmed. Computers are hugely significant with regard to spiritual manifestation. (as much as tv's, phones, and other electrical equipment,)
    (Keu)

    So, disk and database problems, as documented by Regi had nothing to do with boards being down quite a bit recently? I know this is the paranormal board and that its purpose is to give believers in the paranormal a voice and I admit that I'm very sceptical about the paranormal but if this board is to be interesting, it wouldn't hurt to ask questions from time to time about what people post rather than blindly accepting any statement. Maybe it's just me but your insistance (you posted about it here and in the feedback forum) that the problems with the server were due to a suicide, especially when we have an explanation of what actually happened from the admins who run this site, is somewhat insensitive to people who have gone through the experience of losing someone to suicide. Are you saying that some boards user has commited suicide? I'm not saying that we shouldn't discuss ideas that make us uncomfortable but in this case, it doesn't seems at all necessary.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,180 ✭✭✭keu


    a week before the server crashed, I discussed the events in pm with nick oliveri.
    a week before. The conversation should be logged.
    I was referring to a different site, but ultimately I stated the server went down four times. (and then had to be replaced)
    Why don't you ask him for confirmation?

    The HDD problems may only be meaningful if you believe in synchronicity.
    The energy acts like a power surge.

    btw..I don't expect anyone to take anything at face value, but maybe if nick was around he might be able to confirm the gist of the connversation we had with regard to spirit energy and servers crashing. (it wasn't suggestive at the time, but incidently everyword of it came true)


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators Posts: 11,106 Mod ✭✭✭✭Fysh


    Well, yes, but by that reasoning I can make up any fanciful explanation for a given series of events, talk to someone else about my "explanation" and then, when the given series of events occurs, use my conversation as proof.

    The fact that you spoke to nick oliveri last week about this doesn't offer any actual evidence for the notion that the disk problems on the boards.ie server are due to someone committing suicide. I mean, does it have to be anyone specific committing suicide? Or can this just be anyone? Because if it can be just anyone, then it would be very easy to map someone committing suicide in one place and someone having a disk crash in another. Neither are particularly rare events, which in the case of disk crashes is annoying and time consuming, and in the case of suicide is tragic.

    If it has to be someone specificially linked to the servers, I daresay one of the admins might know something about it. Whether they would jump to the same conclusion, however, is another matter. They might well decide that the known fallibility of computer parts, and server hard discs in particular, was sufficient explanation in its own right.

    I have to say I agree with simu - the overall tone of the discussion regarding suicide so far has been rather lighter than anyone personally affected by it would appreciate. If someone has recently lost a family member to suicide, I don't think that a relatively light hearted discussion (eg post in Feedback/Suggestions about the problem being due to "a dead person in the paranormal board") about computer problems allegedly caused by this suicide is really appropriate.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 153 ✭✭satori


    I think we are all getting a bit side tracked, is it really important about proving things? as no matter how much "proof" someone has there will always be some form or denial or the inability to exept....
    I think we should all (i included) focus more about understanding these influences and experiences then the desire to prove...

    After all which brings with it the most reward....

    just a little though


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators Posts: 11,106 Mod ✭✭✭✭Fysh


    Well, I find it more rewarding to discuss something with a firm grounding and an attempt at rational reasoning within my argument than simply stating that I know I'm right, in the context of a discussion.

    I mean, keu can state that she "felt" an energy or whathaveyou which she has interpreted as being a suicide around the time when the server went down. I can conversely state that I "feel" that keu's statements, thus far lacking in any significant evidence other than a conversation with another user, are the result of an overactive and unoriginal imagination. In both cases, talking about feelings does not get either of us anywhere - trying to back up our statements, on the other hand, allows arguments to be assessed and accepted, discarded, or modified.

    I don't want to come across as a troll and I understand this is a section for people with interests/belief in the paranormal, but I think that if people are willing to undertake investigations into the paranormal then asking for some evidence to support a statement is not unreasonable. I would argue that one of the biggest problems in getting paranormal phenomena investigations funded is the perception (not entirely unfounded, but like all stereotypes inaccurate) that the people involved in such investigations shun the scientific method in favour of other less experimentally useful techniques. I don't particularly believe that current scientific theories explain everything that we experience, but on the other hand I do think that the scientific method and Occam's Razor are invaluable tools in trying to explore little-understood phenomena in such a way as to get some useful insight and try to develop models for them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,180 ✭✭✭keu


    the philosophy board mustn't be very entertaining..fysh has no one to pick on over there.(ie:me)

    tbh..I don't give a sh it if the philosophers or scientificaly minded people don't get it..I really really don't.

    If they want proof, I suggest they locate me (or any other medium online) at a site where readings are performed, or contact me by phone (via pm)
    Well, yes, but by that reasoning I can make up any fanciful explanation for a given series of events, talk to someone else about my "explanation" and then, when the given series of events occurs, use my conversation as proof.
    do you do that often?
    The fact that you spoke to nick oliveri last week about this doesn't offer any actual evidence for the notion that the disk problems on the boards.ie server are due to someone committing suicide. I mean, does it have to be anyone specific committing suicide? Or can this just be anyone? Because if it can be just anyone, then it would be very easy to map someone committing suicide in one place and someone having a disk crash in another. Neither are particularly rare events, which in the case of disk crashes is annoying and time consuming, and in the case of suicide is tragic.

    ffs...i've lost count of the amount of times servers go down when a particularly strong energy signature shows up. (happens all the time at sites where readings are performed)
    Why did it happen here and not the site where the recipient was located? Because I was channeling the energy.
    and yes..suicide is tragic, and yes..usually it (server bumping) occurs where very strong energy is present (those being the ones who's desire to communicate is overwhelming.)
    Well, I find it more rewarding to discuss something with a firm grounding and an attempt at rational reasoning within my argument than simply stating that I know I'm right, in the context of a discussion.

    fysh..I know how much you like to be right all the time, thats why you and simu have your own cubby hole over in philosophy where you can reward yourselves all day long.
    I mean, keu can state that she "felt" an energy or whathaveyou which she has interpreted as being a suicide around the time when the server went down. I can conversely state that I "feel" that keu's statements, thus far lacking in any significant evidence other than a conversation with another user, are the result of an overactive and unoriginal imagination.

    I doubt you can understand how it feels to be shot in the head, or how it feels to suffocate. Thats what differs between you and me fysh, but you consider what I feel as the product of an over active imagination. Yet my over active imagination has produced results in the form of confirmation (names dates, personal information with regard to deceased relatives) The person who required evidence got it.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,180 ✭✭✭keu


    Jesus fysh..your taking ages to write your response..it must be a reallly long one. How about I cut to the chase. I'll tell you what you want to hear.
    Your brilliantly intelligent, far more than anyone here, unequally so and much more than the rest of us that would like to consider ourselves as members of the human species, but I'm sure you already know that. I'm just some dumbass freak who experiences delusions for reasons beyond anyones comprehension, but you might think out of inesecurity and a need for recognition, a talentless brainless person who cannot compete in the real world, particularly with real people who have spent years obtaining pieces of paper denoting their intelligence..but you know that already too.

    ok?

    happy?

    (edit: and along with the gift of being right all the time you KNOW for a fact that that there's no such thing as spirits and when your dead you cease to exist)


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators Posts: 11,106 Mod ✭✭✭✭Fysh


    Originally posted by keu
    the philosophy board mustn't be very entertaining..fysh has no one to pick on over there.(ie:me)

    tbh..I don't give a sh it if the philosophers or scientificaly minded people don't get it..I really really don't.

    If they want proof, I suggest they locate me (or any other medium online) at a site where readings are performed, or contact me by phone (via pm)

    Now now, language. That sort of a response is hardly conducive to any sort of productive discussion (although it's not the first time you've responded to one of my posts in such a way - I'm beginning to think that you don't like me much, so it's a good thing I'm not particularly bothered).

    Anyway.

    It's not that I "don't get it", it's that I honestly cannot see any reason to not presume you're making the entire thing up, either consciously or out of a subconscious reaction to your evident boredom at what others might refer to as the "ordinary world".

    Regarding talking by phone...I'm game if you are, but don't expect me to tolerate unverifiable nonsense if this goes ahead. I expect more than fluffy vagueness from someone trying to change my world view - and on that note, I notice you've given up posting in the philosophy forum. I presume it was the part of the charter that said you would be expected to back up your arguments that put you off? Or maybe the persistent questions you couldn't/wouldn't answer?

    ffs...i've lost count of the amount of times servers go down when a particularly strong energy signature shows up. (happens all the time at sites where readings are performed)
    Why did it happen here and not the site where the recipient was located? Because I was channeling the energy.
    and yes..suicide is tragic, and yes..usually it (server bumping) occurs where very strong energy is present (those being the ones who's desire to communicate is overwhelming.)

    In that case, I presume you'd be willing to point me to some independent scientific data (ie not just a bunch of people encouraging each other's imaginings) on the topic. I mean, if you're right then this has serious implications for the computer industry. I mean, you'd want server racks in the right locations (places with low suicide rates), you'd want to do something about those inconsiderate people "channelling" the energy to remote sites and causing server crashes, and you'd probably need to have some very advanced social monitoring system to try and predict outages.

    I know the charter says this forum is not primarily about debating/debunking theories, and I accept that. The reason I'm asking this is because, according to keu's statements, this is a perfect case for those interested in paranormal phenomena to gather some evidence and present proof to the world that there is more to our universe than what current models describe. As previously stated, with groups such as PRI in existence and present on here, an easily verified phenomenon should be examined as closely as possible.

    Strange how I've heard nothing about any of this, despite working in Tech Support and having done physics and computer science in college.

    f
    ysh..I know how much you like to be right all the time, thats why you and simu have your own cubby hole over in philosophy where you can reward yourselves all day long.

    I doubt you can understand how it feels to be shot in the head, or how it feels to suffocate. Thats what differs between you and me fysh, but you consider what I feel as the product of an over active imagination. Yet my over active imagination has produced results in the form of confirmation (names dates, personal information with regard to deceased relatives) The person who required evidence got it.

    You're telling me that you know exactly what it's like to be shot in the head? You realise that in order to be one hunder percent certain of the accuracy of your "vision" (or however you refer to your alleged abilities), you would have to shoot yourself in the head to compare?

    On a separate note, I've lost count of the number of times that many techniques cmmonly used by "mediums" to "contact" or "channel" the dead or have been exposed as fraudulent and based on psychological manipulation of people in a vulnerable mental state using open ended leading questions and a few statistical tricks, among other things.

    Never mind the fact that, according to your own argument, you cannot realistically deny that I might well be channelling messages from a god telling me that, actually, you're lying. The only possible counterargument you can present to this would be that, given my apparent mindset, it is unlikely (you cannot prove it to be impossible) for me to have such abilities. Which technically means I can make up what I like, and you can do likewise, and any real phenomena that occur along the way will be dismissed as fictitious, thereby preventing any useful further understanding of said phenomena from being reached.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators Posts: 11,106 Mod ✭✭✭✭Fysh


    Originally posted by keu
    Jesus fysh..your taking ages to write your response..it must be a reallly long one. How about I cut to the chase. I'll tell you what you want to hear.
    Your brilliantly intelligent, far more than anyone here, unequally so and much more than the rest of us that would like to consider ourselves as members of the human species, but I'm sure you already know that. I'm just some dumbass freak who experiences delusions for reasons beyond anyones comprehension, but you might think out of inesecurity and a need for recognition, a talentless brainless person who cannot compete in the real world, particularly with real people who have spent years obtaining pieces of paper denoting their intelligence..but you know that already too.

    ok?

    happy?

    (edit: and along with the gift of being right all the time you KNOW for a fact that that there's no such thing as spirits and when your dead you cease to exist)

    Has anyone ever told you how petulant you are?

    As I've said in my previous reply, I'm not stating that there are no such things as spirits. What I have repeatedly done is ask you for any sort of evidence that might encourage me to move away from my currently held understanding of the universe, and you've failed to do anything more than throw temper tantrums and insult me. In other such topics, for example the existence of extraterrestrial life, I hold quite firm beliefs, which I can back up with reasoned arguments (in the case of this example, the statistical improbability of Earth being the only planet in the universe to develop life is so staggeringly small that I am happy to accept that somewhere else, life has or will evolve. Whether we ever get to meet it is another question entirely).

    I haven't said you're a talentless freak, since such considerations would have nothing to do with the discussion at hand. If that's what you assume from the fact that I disagree with you then I can only conclude that you have some fairly deepseated insecurities, but again - this has nothing to do with the topic at hand.

    Furthermore - I have never made a big issue about my "pieces of paper" except when they might be directly relevant and helpful in a given topic (for example, when you suggested that the mind is the result of matter-antimatter interactions within the brain and I pointed out that this is extremely unlikely given the current physical understanding of such interactions and their consequences). Likewise, I don't consider myself to be particularly intelligent - however, I do expect that if someone wants to discuss a given topic, they should be able to understand, analyse and construct chains of reasoning. I've never said you're incapable of this, I have merely pointed out the flaws in the chains of reasoning you have presented, and where relevant asked for evidence to support a given link in a chain.

    I can't help but feel you're scraping the bottom of your barrel with these sort of responses, really. Jumping to incorrect conclusions about my beliefs, incorrect assesments of my personality, reading insults where none have been hurled...

    Lastly - I take my time with my replies because I like to try and make sure that I'm expressing myself correctly, that there aren't any silly mistakes in my posts, and that I don't just fly off the handle in response to someone challenging my beliefs. I'm sorry if this somehow upsets you, although I won't be changing my habits.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,730 ✭✭✭✭simu


    Originally posted by keu
    a week before the server crashed, I discussed the events in pm with nick oliveri.
    a week before. The conversation should be logged.
    I was referring to a different site, but ultimately I stated the server went down four times. (and then had to be replaced)
    Why don't you ask him for confirmation?

    The HDD problems may only be meaningful if you believe in synchronicity.
    The energy acts like a power surge.

    btw..I don't expect anyone to take anything at face value, but maybe if nick was around he might be able to confirm the gist of the connversation we had with regard to spirit energy and servers crashing. (it wasn't suggestive at the time, but incidently everyword of it came true)

    Well, the disk problems were meaningful for me in the sense that I couldn't log in to boards for a while!

    Tbh, it looks to me that you're looking for an unnecessary elaborate explanations for this event. This wouldn't really bother me all that much except that I find it a bit morbid and insensitive to drag some supposed victim of suicide into this.

    Neway, I don't really want to get into the details of this specific topic as it soesn't interest me but this thread brings to mind some more wide-ranging queries I have about the paranormal and I will start a new thred to discuss these.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,180 ✭✭✭keu


    Has anyone ever told you how petulant you are
    yep.


    I could be making it all up fysh, but If I am, how come the information is always correct? When I offer information relating to someones deceased relatives howcome it's always right?
    I'm not talking suggestive information like..oooh he had dark hair and liked football, I'm referring to names and dates, specific personal information.
    I'm not saying there isn't a bunch of people who do just make it all up, I've met a lot of them, I've never recieved information I could validate from any medium to date.
    But I bet I could teach you how to do it fysh.
    If your game.

    With regard to finding some evidence, a previous "constructive conversation" was closed as it didn't follow the format of the forum....so rather than I do it for you, why don't you do it yourself?


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators Posts: 11,106 Mod ✭✭✭✭Fysh


    What are you offering to teach me, exactly? And, since I am at least curious, how would you suggest going about the teaching aspect?

    As previously stated, I have certain restrictions on what I'm willing to expend time/effort on - I've attended a couple of transcendental meditation classes in the past (among other things) and, well, suffice to say that the word unimpressed would be a very mild description of my overall impression.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,180 ✭✭✭keu


    I've been thinking about how we can do this via the board, but as I'm all up for seeking "truth" too, I'm willing to make an effort to find some.
    What I'm suggesting is, that you provide me with information, re: my deceased loved ones or whatever information comes up. (rather than me doing it, this is the best way that you can find validation for yourself as its harder to refute)
    I've been careful not to give away too much information about myself on boards since I joined, anything I previously posted may not actually be the truth :)
    I was going to describe a method of obtaining this information via meditation, so I'm pleased I don't have to go through that process as you are already aware of whats involved.
    ok.
    So if your willing to do this (genuinely) and willing to offer a little of your time to focus your attention in this area, I would really appreciate it.
    If so let me know, than I can offer some direction.
    (maybe a few people can try)
    I don't know what the outcome will be, but I think its an interesting experiement.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,180 ✭✭✭keu


    might be slightly off topic and maybe even slightly controversial, but on the subject of suicide, does anybody know if that bubbles bloke is still alive?


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators Posts: 11,106 Mod ✭✭✭✭Fysh


    Originally posted by keu
    I've been thinking about how we can do this via the board, but as I'm all up for seeking "truth" too, I'm willing to make an effort to find some.
    What I'm suggesting is, that you provide me with information, re: my deceased loved ones or whatever information comes up. (rather than me doing it, this is the best way that you can find validation for yourself as its harder to refute)
    I've been careful not to give away too much information about myself on boards since I joined, anything I previously posted may not actually be the truth :)
    I was going to describe a method of obtaining this information via meditation, so I'm pleased I don't have to go through that process as you are already aware of whats involved.
    ok.
    So if your willing to do this (genuinely) and willing to offer a little of your time to focus your attention in this area, I would really appreciate it.
    If so let me know, than I can offer some direction.
    (maybe a few people can try)
    I don't know what the outcome will be, but I think its an interesting experiement.

    I'm intrigued, though I must stress that I'm still very skeptical about the whole thing. However, I would appreciate some more information on you do, as part of the reason I hold transcendental meditation in such low regard is because the process was described to me, literally, as "focusing and aligning your brainwaves with those of everyone the room", a statement of staggering nonsensical value (given that the speaker in question had previously appeared to use the term brainwaves as a loose reference to alpha patterns, etc).

    Meditation in itself I don't have a problem with, but I have no idea (and was given no explanation) on how to "align my brainwaves" with someone else, hence my opinion of TM.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,180 ✭✭✭keu


    sent you a pm.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 153 ✭✭satori


    keu if it helps i belive you.

    You earlier said that this entity came in with me, i didnt wish to comment earlyier as i wanted to avaluate the situation.

    I have recently lost someone of the same name through the same sorrowful situation...

    I would be very greatful if you could please pm me with any thing you feel i should know, if not no worries what so ever.

    Thank you again for reading

    Satori


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,180 ✭✭✭keu


    bubbles?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 153 ✭✭satori


    I have pm you.

    Thank you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,633 ✭✭✭stormkeeper


    Btw satori, if you're going to the ghost hunt, how versed in psychic protection are you yourself? I'm just curious.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 153 ✭✭satori


    Psychologically I am as vulnerable as everyone else on this forum, the consciousness and subconscious host factors that as a intricate part of human nature cannot truly be defined, although they cannot be fully contained I consider myself to hold an open minded view of these situations as it is the search for truth that bids us on not the reassurance of our present beliefs.

    Psychically I am to a certain degree (although admittedly not that extensive) aware of the energies in play within life and have in the past used this limited understanding to shield myself from negative energies and thought forms and feel comfortable enough regarding this aspect of protection.

    Physically apart from the basics in self-defence I would be at the whims of a third party, this is definitely a situation that I plan to dramatically improve upon in the near future.

    Energetically apart from focused visualisation techniques I have a ritually fashioned and empowered amulet, which is dedicated to the Goddess Diana (who’s deity aspect I feel quiet comfortable with).

    Through the above means I achieve a certain level and state of both psychological and energetic security and they have in the past served me very well.

    I’m not certain if this answers your question though?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,633 ✭✭✭stormkeeper


    That answers it pretty well, thank you.

    By the way, how do you feel about using stones such as Hematite and Amythyst for protection?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 153 ✭✭satori


    In my personal experience there very effective, because of there nature Amythyst (especailly the darker purple variety) can provide alot of defensive psychic energy where as Hematite (quiet sugestive of this in its metalic like apperence) works best regarding the physical protective plane.

    In the end though, they are just a source of energy and the individual the conductor of it, beliveing that something hosts protective powers not only summons up benifical psychological mind frames but allows you to tap into that essence within you that brings it to manifestation.

    Regarding the above examples i feel that Hematite is probably the greater crystal in this retrospect as it brings with it not only its protective qualitys but a grounding and centering ability which can at times be noted as the first step in createing protection internaly, when this is acheived you can then progress to securing your external influences.

    Thanks again for reading

    Satori


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,633 ✭✭✭stormkeeper


    Funny you should mention hematite, because I had a hematite ring, and it went missing. I actually feel the ring around my finger now, and I was told that my aura absorbed the ring, so now I have the effects of the ring without the ring.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 153 ✭✭satori


    I am actually wearing a Hematite ring around my middle finger of my right hand (for balance) in the last year iv gone through 5 as they keep breaking, although i still feel its energy with out it on, i wear it as a reminder and to back up my auratic energy as at times it can become depleted....

    Have to admit though, they are pretty. hehehe


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,633 ✭✭✭stormkeeper


    Yes, that they are :)

    I'm going to get another one soonish, along with a few stones for stuff..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 153 ✭✭satori


    I belive that Ro_70 also has a interest in the workings of crystals, huney if your around id love to hear your opinion?


    Satori


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