You and I can do somthing to reduce the price of petrol!!!!

minority

I got this in an email from a friend. Don't know where it started but its a good idea.

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You have to do this to make it work. Stick to it!!

Send it around!!

We are going to hit over EUR1 a litre by the summer. Want petrol
prices to come down? We need to take some intelligent, united
action. Philip Hollsworth offered this good idea: This makes MUCH MORE
SENSE than the "don't buy petrol on a certain day" campaign that was going
around last April or May! The oil companies just laughed at that
because they knew we wouldn't continue to hurt ourselves by refusing
to buy petrol. It was more of an inconvenience to us than it was a
problem for them. BUT, whoever thought of this idea, has come up with
a plan that can really work. Please read it and join in!

Now that the oil companies and the OPEC nations have conditioned us
to think that the cost of a litre is CHEAP at 90c to 95c, we need to take
aggressive action to teach them that BUYERS control the marketplace
not sellers. With the price of petrol going up more each day, we
consumers need to take action. The only way we are going to see the
price of petrol come down is if we hit someone in the pocket by not
purchasing their Petrol! And we can do that WITHOUT hurting
ourselves.

Here's the idea:

For the rest of this year, DON'T purchase ANY petrol from the two
biggest oil companies (which now are one), ESSO and BP. If they are
not selling any petrol, they will be inclined to reduce their
prices. If they reduce their prices, the other companies will have to
follow suit. But to have an impact, we need to reach literally millions of
Esso and BP petrol buyers. It's really simple to do!!

Now, don't wimp out on me at this point...keep reading and I'll
explain how simple it is to reach millions of people!!
I am sending this note to a lot of people. If each of you send it to
at least ten more (30 x 10 = 300)... and those 300 send it to at
least ten more (300 x 10 = 3,000) ... and so on, by the time the message
reaches the sixth generation of people, we will have reached over
THREE MILLION consumers! If those three million get excited and pass
this on to ten friends each, then 30 million people will have been
contacted! If it goes one level further, you guessed it... .. THREE
HUNDRED MILLION PEOPLE!!! Again, all You have to do is send this to
10 people. That's all. (and not buy at ESSO/BP)

How long would all that take? If each of us sends this email out to ten
more people within one day of receipt, all 300 MILLION people could
conceivably be contacted within the next 8 days!!! I'll bet you didn't think you
and I had that much potential, did you! Acting together we can make
a difference. If this makes sense to you, please pass this message on.
PLEASE HOLD OUT UNTIL THEY LOWER THEIR PRICES.

Action:
It's easy to make this happen. Just forward this email, and buy your
petrol at anywhere BUT BP and Esso.

mike65

Idiotic post or at least message, I've seen it elsewhere.

If you dont buy it from Esso or BP (who do not sell fuel here) then you buy the fuel from Texaco or Shell or whoever. Also ppl buy where its handy not on principle.

It all comes out of the same holes in the ground. The oil companies need the revenues to keep the supply going!

The villians of the piece are many, Americans and thier SUV mentality, the Chinese for hoovering up supply, the
government for its hefty tax-wedge, oil-market traders who exploit political uncertainty and so on.

Mike.

minority

For the rest of this year, DON'T purchase ANY petrol from the two
biggest oil companies (which now are one), ESSO and BP. If they are
not selling any petrol, they will be inclined to reduce their
prices. If they reduce their prices, the other companies will have to
follow suit.

This is the action part of the post. Seems like a plan to me. Kick the big guy in the balls. At least your hurting him whether or not you hurt his mates.

Ripwave

BP isn't one of the big two in Ireland. It isn't even one of the big 4.

Statoil are the largest retailer of petrol in Ireland. As far as I can tell, Esso and Texaco come next, with Shell in 4th place. Between them they control about 80% of the market, with smaller players like Maxol, Tedcastle, EMO and BP making up the rest.

Just because you're watching Sky doesn't mean Ireland is a region of the UK!

minority

Wow, you are observant today
Then just boycott esso. You dont have to find a bp to boycott if there isnt one
The post probably originated in the UK.
If its that hard to comprehend guys then you might as well just not bother though
Go to Esso all you want.

ChipZilla

BP haven't sold petrol in Ireland in about 20 years.

If people who post this spam crap are too lazy to make changes to the text of this spam (to make it relevant to the country we are in) before they pass it on to all 300 people in their address book or post it on a board, then how do you expect the people receiving it to drive out of their way to buy their petrol from an alternative supplier?

What a f**king dumb thing to post...:rolleyes:

BuffyBot

Apart from anything else, I doubt Esso, Shell etc would really feel it all that much...

minority

i can really see now that people in here would rather complain than actually try to do something about prices.
Some activists

joe.

simple answer.

use public transport or walk.

dubya bushs' fault too by the way

pedro ferio-vti

Originally posted by ChipZilla
BP haven't sold petrol in Ireland in about 20 years.

Afaik BP own statoil and sell their petrol through them so BP would be 1 of the biggest retailers in Ireland along with Esso. I normally buy my petrol at Shell or Tesco anyway since they're always cheaper.

Pete

por

This may sound like common sense but here are two simple ways to avoid being ripped off at the petrol pump.

1. Shop around - Example - I live outside Gort and work in Galway city. A few months ago Galway city was 5c cheaper than Gort so I got my petrol there, now Gort is 5c cheaper than Galway so i buy it there. Be aware of the prices in your area, while driving make a mental note of them, look at http://www.irishfuelprices.com/ for price comparisons.

2. As 'bmarley' said, walk or take public transport, where available, or use your car a little less if possible.

Boycotting one petrol company will man that you only end up buying it from another (who may not be cheaper), the fact that petrol is 10c dearer than a few months ago has little to do with the consumption patters of the Irish driver and a lot to do with world politics, so while it is expensive try get it as cheap as you can.

BuffyBot

Afaik BP own statoil

Nope, not as far as I can find

Beëlzebooze

The oil companies only get a small percentage of the 1 euro we are paying for a litre, the majority of that money goes to the government. There is more chance of pressureing(sp?) our government into lowering the taxes on fuel than there is on getting the oilcompanies to lower the price.

Sleipnir

Originally posted by pedro ferio-vti
Afaik BP own statoil and sell their petrol through them so BP would be 1 of the biggest retailers in Ireland along with Esso. I normally buy my petrol at Shell or Tesco anyway since they're always cheaper.

Pete

BP pulled out of Ireland 12 years ago selling their network to Statoil.

ChipZilla

Originally posted by pedro ferio-vti
Afaik BP own statoil and sell their petrol through them so BP would be 1 of the biggest retailers in Ireland along with Esso. I normally buy my petrol at Shell or Tesco anyway since they're always cheaper.

Pete

Nope, Statoil was founded as the Norwegian state oil company - Den norske stats oljeselskap for any of you Norwegians out there... They share drilling rights in some oilfields with BP, but that's about it...

Ripwave

Originally posted by pedro ferio-vti
Afaik BP own statoil

Do you even bother looking stuff up before you post this sort of nonsense? Just go to the statoil website and look at the company information. Or do a google search for statoil and BP, and see that they are 2 very different companies.

pedro ferio-vti

Jeez easy there fellas, point taken, did anybody see the "AFAIK" before the rest of the sentence? FS, it's almost as if you wait for people to post up something incorrect so you can jump down their throats. I know some of you guys practially live here on boards, and as such probably have limited experience interacting with people. There are ways to make your point without posting things like:

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I know theres a lot of misinformation around and don't want to add to it but I was led to believe what I said, SORRY.

Also Rip do you find it completely necessary to point out it was a mistake when 3 people directly before you already pointed out it was a mistake or is do you normally need to read things 3 times before it "sinks in"?

Thanks
Pete

Ripwave

Originally posted by pedro ferio-vti
Jeez easy there fellas, point taken, did anybody see the "AFAIK" before the rest of the sentence?

Oh, well, that's all right then. You've got to wonder what sort of gob****e could post about BP being one of the biggest petrol retailers when just thinking about when you last saw a BP station for 3 seconds would make it pretty obvious that they aren't a signiifcant player in Ireland.

Also Rip do you find it completely necessary to point out it was a mistake when 3 people directly before you already pointed out it was a mistake or is do you normally need to read things 3 times before it "sinks in"?

I didn't bother to read the rest of the thread before I posted my reply. When a thread is already dealing with obvious misinformation, and then someone continues the misinformation without taking the 15 seconds that it would take to check their facts, it's worth making the point that, not only are they wrong, but that they'd rather shoot their mouths off than checking their facts.

sceptre

Originally posted by por
1. Shop around - Example - I live outside Gort and work in Galway city. A few months ago Galway city was 5c cheaper than Gort so I got my petrol there, now Gort is 5c cheaper than Galway so i buy it there.

Indeed. Passed through Gort this morning on my way from Galway back to Limerick. Made sure I didn't buy any petrol in Galway as long as I had enough to get me to Gort. Bought it in the cheap place in Gort, I'm happy. It's "only" a 4cent or so difference per litre but it's my four cents now.

I can't understand people who whinge about the price of petrol but are happy to fill the tank at the nearest overpriced outlet. Most of the time (not necessarily in this case) they're the actual source of the problem they whinge about.

minority

Jesus relax the cax there.
The post is from an email going around Ireland and the UK.
I am from Dublin, live in London but am in Ireland for 6 months working at the moment.
The post is relevant to both UK and Ireland hence BP and Esso. Dont think that the world just revolves around Ireland. There was no need to change the post as it is viewed in the UK too, so cop on and take it at face value.
As for a boybott not effecting the price of petrol i just point you to the N2.
Tesco move in with lower prices and before you know it the rest of the garages have lower prices there.
Same thing if a garage (Esso or BP) os boybotted and they need to reduce their prices to get customers back then the garage down the road will have to match their prices or lose customers.
I know this is lost on you Ripwave (i nominate you for a ban for personal abuse, anyone second it?), so dont bother to post if you've nothing constructive to add. Complaining about people trying to get somthing done doesnt do anything to reduce prices, so you'ld do well to remember that one. Action does.

Ripwave

Originally posted by minority
Complaining about people trying to get somthing done doesnt do anything to reduce prices, so you'ld do well to remember that one. Action does.

I didn't complain about people trying to get something done. I complained about people who are too lazy to even check their facts before posting stuff that is obviously incorrect. There's no point in calling for a boycott of BP when BP aren't even in the market in Ireland. And trying to pretend that the reference to "the two biggest companies" meant the biggest company in the UK and the biggest company in Ireland is pretty pathetic, when it's been pointed out that Statoil is the biggest petrol retailer in Ireland.

By so conspicuously wasting peoples time with this sort of misinformation, you undermine the efforts of people who might actually put forward a genuine, and workable, suggestion. We have 4 "big" petrol retailers, with about 80% of the market between them (Statoil has about 23%, Shell has about 16% and Esso and Texaco have about 20% each, though those numbers come from different sources, and aren't necessarily current). I've no idea what the structure of the UK market is, but even if the "boycott the top 2" notion fits their market, there are strong suggestions that it wouldn't make any difference.

minority

Originally posted by Ripwave
I didn't complain about people trying to get something done. I complained about people who are too lazy to even check their facts before posting stuff that is obviously incorrect. There's no point in calling for a boycott of BP when BP aren't even in the market in Ireland. And trying to pretend that the reference to "the two biggest companies" meant the biggest company in the UK and the biggest company in Ireland is pretty pathetic, when it's been pointed out that Statoil is the biggest petrol retailer in Ireland.

By so conspicuously wasting peoples time with this sort of misinformation, you undermine the efforts of people who might actually put forward a genuine, and workable, suggestion. We have 4 "big" petrol retailers, with about 80% of the market between them (Statoil has about 23%, Shell has about 16% and Esso and Texaco have about 20% each, though those numbers come from different sources, and aren't necessarily current). I've no idea what the structure of the UK market is, but even if the "boycott the top 2" notion fits their market, there are strong suggestions that it wouldn't make any difference.

You're the most argumentative prat on boards, so whats the point

netman

I got this email myself just today, and wanted to check boards.ie for any comments... Glad to see it's been discussed here.

I find it a bit strange, but what I've read here explains a lot.

Personally, it looks like "shaft the competition" email by someone who's working in another petrol company. I buy petrol from Esso, simply because they're the cheapest in my area, and also very convenient. I ain't gonna spend another few euro to buy more expensive petrol from someone else like Shell. Or drive 20 miles to save a few cents

Statoil and Shell are both more expensive than Esso, at least back where I am.
So why not boycott them ?! hrmph

por

Originally posted by minority

As for a boybott not effecting the price of petrol i just point you to the N2.
Tesco move in with lower prices and before you know it the rest of the garages have lower prices there.
Same thing if a garage (Esso or BP) os boybotted and they need to reduce their prices to get customers back then the garage down the road will have to match their prices or lose customers.

The Tesco example above is irrelevant to boycotting a certain oil company. The reason the price dropped on the N2 is because Tesco entered the market at a lower price.

If you want to boycott anything then just boycott the most expensive garage in your area, which is common sense anyway.

Typedef

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