Derren Brown "seance"

Dr. Dre

Anyone watching this? Very funny.

bug

yeah what is that girl screaming at in the room?..

StephenInsane

I knew all along that this was Derren Brown up to his usual tricks. But I must admit my heart was racing during it. Even Derren looked a bit freaked by the intensity of the volunteers.

That was pure class at the end when Derren brought in the girl who's "spirit" they'd contaceted, who turned out not to have commited suicide at all, but was alive and well, Derren had just made the whole story up.

It really showed the power of the human subconcious. Great TV.

RobertFoster

I didn't follow his instructions but I still managed to "focus" on Jane's picture...

BArra

where did the girl who in the last part of the show who "took" on the spirit of jane get all the information about her childhood including the pet dogs name?


it was intense when the cup started to float i think? they were all screaming at it, or else they may have thought they could see the "spirit" bouncing around or something

but yeah , great tv

mayordenis

twas good indeed anyone else see the ending coming or was it just me?????

StephenInsane

Originally posted by BArra
where did the girl who in the last part of the show who "took" on the spirit of jane get all the information about her childhood including the pet dogs name?


it was intense when the cup started to float i think? they were all screaming at it, or else they may have thought they could see the "spirit" bouncing around or something

but yeah , great tv

Derren must have passed on the information subconciously to the volunteers, he does it all the time on his show. Everything that happened was orcastrated by Derren.

The cup started moving because they were subconciously kicking and shaking the table. They didn't know they were doing it, but they were doing it.

flogen

i guessed it when the video played, it looked too modern and setup.

I thought it might be a setup at the start, but was convinced by the show, only for it to be fake at the end

as for the cup thing, it may have been kicking, but what about the ball

Flogen

StephenInsane

Originally posted by flogen
i guessed it when the video played, it looked too modern and setup.

I thought it might be a setup at the start, but was convinced by the show, only for it to be fake at the end

as for the cup thing, it may have been kicking, but what about the ball

Flogen

The ball, I dunno...someone elevated the table with their knee?? use your imagination! Everything that happened happened because of physical human doing. Their are no spirits i'm afraid...back to the mundane...

keu

twas good indeed anyone else see the ending coming or was it just me?????

derren browne is an illusionist...he creates illusions??

Good TV

The ball, I dunno...someone elevated the table with their knee?? use your imagination! Everything that happened happened because of physical human doing. Their are no spirits i'm afraid...back to the mundane...

under british law it is illegal to televise a genuine seance. As an illusionist he was able to bypass the law, by creating the illusion of one.

byte

Originally posted by remote viewer
under british law it is illegal to televise a genuine seance.

Yeah, I had thought so too. I missed quite a bit during the middle of the show. Seems I missed nowt! :rolleyes:

monument

Originally posted by StephenInsane
I knew all along that this was Derren Brown up to his usual tricks.

Like anyone who has watched him before would trust him to be doing anything other then his usual tricks.

I quite liked the suggestive (or whatever) writing. I had written London before the ones on the program had started writing.

Originally posted by StephenInsane
Even Derren looked a bit freaked by the intensity of the volunteers.

That’s one of, of not the most important part of what he does.

gerire

I thought it was good, Weve all seen the puzzles and tricks on the net that lead you to pick a certain picture due to the sequence they a laid out in, its a very good exercise in the power of suggestion aswell.

BaZmO*

Originally posted by StephenInsane
....orcastrated....

Is that when a Killer Whale gets his lad chopped off?!?!? Sorry! I couldn't resist.



I only seen the show from when the cup fell/smashed on the table. I nearly p1ssed meself laughing at everybody's reaction. The look of fear on their faces was priceless!
He probably just had some type of mechanical device to smash the cup, and all the volunteers were pre-occupied to notice anything.
I totally smelled a rat when he showed them the DVD, as some else said it looked "way" too modern, and artsy to be genuine.
Great TV though, really difficult not to get involved.

B.

RE*AC*TOR

Originally posted by mayordenis
twas good indeed anyone else see the ending coming or was it just me?????

ahh MayorD you crazy cat - what kind of mischief will you get up to next :ninja:

Anyway - yeah twas good - couple of jumpy bits where the the people where in the medium booth and yer wan in the room G7.

mayordenis

yeah i think the room G7 thing was too obvious he may be an excellent illusionist but the is not the best actor in the world he had the same level of sincerety as the presenter of the crystal maze.

Exit

Only got round to watching it now. I'm a big Derren Brown fan, so obviously I was very interested in the show.

Regarding most people choosing Jane: When he set out the photos on the table he arranged them in a way where if you followed his directions, it had to end up on Jane. For instance, all the colour photos were on the top and bottom row except for Jane and at a certain point, you'd end up on one of these colour photos. His next direction was to go diagonally until you get to a black and white photo. Seeing as you're currently on either the top or bottom row, then you're going to end up in the middle row, after which his next instruction was to go left or right until you get to a colour photo which was obviously Jane (being the only colour photo in the middle row) When I figured out that trick watching it, I knew it was fake but I was really hoping he wasn't going to pass it off as real, which thankfully he didn't.

Even before he gave those directions though, I had picked out Jane. Her photo and face was the most striking of them all, and I'd imagine that was for a reason.

As has been said already, the home video footage was obviously faked as it looked too cliched (like every fake home movie in films looks) and the letter was too coincidental (it just happened to mention what her dad worked as!?) But anyway, he said at the beginning of the show to the camera that he was trying to recreate the fraudulent nature of Victorian seances, so it wasn't a shock to find out it was faked. Really good show though as an experiment into the suggestiveness of the human mind.

The only bit that genuinely has me wondering were the sequences in the seance chamber. It was probably just 'basic' hypnotism but it was still a little disturbing seeing the guy freak out like that.

flogen

yeah, the chamber was pretty wierd... seeing your man flip freaked me out abit.

As for the letter, it may have been an obvious fake, but what is interesting is how he got the girl to say about the dads job, and stuff like that... The letter had been written before hand (I'm sure if you watch it a few times you'd see the hints he makes along the way, as usual).

Interesting link:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/tv_and_radio/3773013.stm

It is now the 3rd most complained about show (with over 700 complaints), but c4 said only 30 of the complaints it recieved were after the show, meaning about 450 were made by people that hadn't seen it, or seen it in full.. IMO any complaints made before should be and probably are ignored. And I doubt any complaints will be held up by Ofcom, the show had enough warnings, it was a fake, and it was obviously going to at least try to be scary at times.

What is also interesting is that C4 are responsible for brass eye, another high hitter in complaints, and I think the temptation of the christ too (I may be wrong, it could have been BBC 2).

GO-ON C4!

Flogen

Gillo

Don't suppose anyone recorded this and is feeling very kind and loving (well I'll settle for kind). Anyway, anyone got a loan of a copy of it??

thanks