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The Human Mind?

  • 27-05-2004 7:06pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 465 ✭✭


    I was looking through this forum and it has caught my attention some of the strange experiences related to the mind people go through. I am not a psychologist or any of that, but i do think a lot.
    I have been pondering the different experiences such as Deja vu, mind reading etc (and a particular one i get - knowing when i'm being looked at or watched..- i also get sort of hints when i'm driving.. like slowing down way more than i have to on a bend for no reason, then a car comes barreling round the corner on the wrong side, just missing my front- happens quite a bit)
    I believe that these experiences are all capabilities of the human brain... we just don't know it yet. We only use between 5 and 10% of our brain and look at what we can do.... Just imagine what that other 90% could be capable of.... I believe that certain people are able to subconsciously tap into some of this ability (preminitions etc).. because some things are too wierd to be coincidence.. any thoughts?

    K


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,135 ✭✭✭KlodaX


    there is no such thing as a coincidence, I think its all interlinked and things we don't understand yet are described as paranormal. There is a thread on the philosophy board about time, does it exist or not? if it doesn't exist that would explain alot of things I think. If things aren't iterative then deja vu makes sense.

    The Indian shamen seem to have tapped into there other brain powers, or claim too. I don't know much about it ... but some of the healing powers, medician men as such, use alot of their potential.

    I think alot of people use aids to extend their mind, like trinkets and stuff. I'm as blind as a bat and don't wear glasses ... but I can sense when someone I know has come into a room, its like knocking of one sense increases another. If someone is staring at you, you could be just exercising that other sense.

    its a good topic by the way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,476 ✭✭✭ShriekingSheet


    Im not usually one concerned with this kinda stuff but man, when I read that bit about 'knowing when someone's looking at you' I really knew what you meant. It's freaky!

    About the car thing - Contact your insurance company immediately!! That's gotta reduce your premium :p:p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,180 ✭✭✭keu


    We only use between 5 and 10% of our brain and look at what we can do.... Just imagine what that other 90% could be capable of....
    makes me wonder what the other 90% is doing the rest of the time.

    me met mayan shaman btw....very heavy stuff.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,286 ✭✭✭SprostonGreen


    Originally posted by KlodaX
    there is no such thing as a coincidence, I think its all interlinked and things we don't understand yet are described as paranormal. There is a thread on the philosophy board about time, does it exist or not? if it doesn't exist that would explain alot of things I think. If things aren't iterative then deja vu makes sense.


    I've only recently heard of Deepak Shokra, I saw some of his books today and my mate said that he came here recently and sold out a few seminars. Anyway, seemingly he talks about coincendences and all things been interlinked. I must read up that soon.

    Great thread btw.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 71 ✭✭Sefrian


    i def agree one time i was goin to a match and i told a m8 sumtin bad would happen to him so i said sit down and dont mess bout on the bus...
    then on the way back he almost fell out the back door but a girl caught him....
    But the funny part was wen i predicted it or whatever she had told me she wasnt goin but then she went.


    True stroy Btw


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 465 ✭✭Kermitt


    At KlodaX Yeah the coincidence thing is one that gets me; case in point one of my good friends was going with her cousin to pick up a brand new car in portlaoise. on the way back the car stalled at a set of traffic lights, and would not start (Bear in mind the car has 12 miles on the clock) when the lights went green, the car to their left moved off but they couldn't.. then a car broke the lights from their right and ploughed into the car that was beside them... Turned out the new car had a rare electrical fault that blew the fuse on the starter when the electric windows were activated... My friend was freaked for weeks. she believes that something wierd was going on..and i'd be inclined to agree...


  • Site Banned Posts: 197 ✭✭Wolfie


    According to science, deja vu can very easily be explained.. it's basically a short circuit in the brain. In brain chemistry, our neural pathways are formed by neural networks, which are established and grown for all kinds of brain functions and thoughts. Sometimes, a neuron can fire a synapse into an adjacent receptor, such as a receptor linked to memory, and we feel that the trigger event (could be anything, example, matrix black cat) has happened to us before because it has fired into the "this has happened before" neuron.

    Hmm.. dunno if my explanation has done any justice here... err.. do you guys know what I mean? Anyway, I always wondered about deja vu, from the persepective of the reality/non-reality/nature of time. I'm happy to accept that explanation though, because I am fully aware of how powerfully the brain (that organ in our skull) determines our reality - or perception thereof.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,180 ✭✭✭keu


    it's basically a short circuit in the brain. In brain chemistry, our neural pathways are formed by neural networks, which are established and grown for all kinds of brain functions and thoughts. Sometimes, a neuron can fire a synapse into an adjacent receptor, such as a receptor linked to memory, and we feel that the trigger event
    Just a few points. In understanding the qualities of personal perception, perhaps you won't be offended if I suggest that a mechanical explanation determines your perception as to why it occurs. (Your own personal rationalisation or belief deemed through logical reasoning). I do not doubt how it occurs.
    I don’t refute that there is a medical textbook which can describe how these instances may occur within the physiology of the brain, but it doesn't necessarily answer the question as to WHY it happens, as far as you are concerned it just does. (an accident, a short circuit, an event without purpose or meaning)

    In my understanding dejavu is feeling of familiarity within a situation, as if you have experienced the situation before (like memory)... and I don’t refute that an instance occurred within my neural pathways, which picked up on a past suggestion and I interpreted it in such a way as to manifest the situation again, (creating a perception)
    But perhaps I question that this instance was a malfunction, perhaps I was supposed to manifest a particular perception at a particular time in order for a particular effect to occur. (I know it's a bit far out there, but how something happens doesn't necessarily explain why it happens)

    We all give meaning to those things, which have meaning to us, (from a psychological perspective) but a mechanical explanation takes the physical counterpart of the mind as the substance for logical reasoning and doesn’t query the relevance of the meaning we give to things. Is the operation of the mind as rational? Is there a correct perception that we should have as humans?
    The difference I guess, is that for a person of logic this is just a short circuit in a piece of machinery, a mistake, an accident, the failure of a piece of equipment.
    But people who give meaning to instances of coincidence, (which is deemed illogical) would consider this as synchronicity, relevant to the situation, and generally consider that this "short circut" as purposeful.
    It seems people who have a greater tendency to lean towards areas of psi related ability, are those who are aware that these coincidences produce results and they have learned to trust these “moments” with greater distinction and use them to enhance their sensory perception. It may be deemed illogical or unreasonable, but that doesn’t suggest these idiosyncrasies are without purpose or advantage or are useful in some way. I try to keep an open mind.

    ...know what I mean?
    we feel that the trigger event has happened to us before because it has fired into the "this has happened before" neuron.
    perhaps the brain reacting in this way acts as signal, some form of preparation in relation to an event which has been sensed, and which has been encountered before, and relays relevant information from previous experience in order to enhance adaptability.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,005 ✭✭✭MeatProduct


    Originally posted by SprostonGreen
    I've only recently heard of Deepak Shokra, I saw some of his books today and my mate said that he came here recently and sold out a few seminars. Anyway, seemingly he talks about coincendences and all things been interlinked. I must read up that soon.

    Great thread btw.
    Deepak Chopra was recently on the Late Late Show where I think Pat Kenny utterly failed to take any advantage of having such an enlightened individual as his guest. Another person that believes that coincidence does not exist is James Redfield, author of The Tenth Insight and the Celestine Prophecy.

    To get more on topic I don't believe it is just a matter of humanity not using all of the faculties of the brain. It would appear to me that even our most basic building blocks, DNA, have untapped potential that humanity has managed to lose sight of over the ages. A good book that discusses that is The Cosmic Serpent, well worth the read.

    Nick


  • Site Banned Posts: 197 ✭✭Wolfie


    Originally posted by remote viewer
    Just a few points. In understanding the qualities of personal perception, perhaps you won't be offended if I suggest that a mechanical explanation determines your perception as to why it occurs. (Your own personal rationalisation or belief deemed through logical reasoning). I do not doubt how it occurs.
    I don’t refute that there is a medical textbook which can describe how these instances may occur within the physiology of the brain, but it doesn't necessarily answer the question as to WHY it happens, as far as you are concerned it just does. (an accident, a short circuit, an event without purpose or meaning)

    In my understanding dejavu is feeling of familiarity within a situation, as if you have experienced the situation before (like memory)... and I don’t refute that an instance occurred within my neural pathways, which picked up on a past suggestion and I interpreted it in such a way as to manifest the situation again, (creating a perception)
    But perhaps I question that this instance was a malfunction, perhaps I was supposed to manifest a particular perception at a particular time in order for a particular effect to occur. (I know it's a bit far out there, but how something happens doesn't necessarily explain why it happens)

    We all give meaning to those things, which have meaning to us, (from a psychological perspective) but a mechanical explanation takes the physical counterpart of the mind as the substance for logical reasoning and doesn’t query the relevance of the meaning we give to things. Is the operation of the mind as rational? Is there a correct perception that we should have as humans?
    The difference I guess, is that for a person of logic this is just a short circuit in a piece of machinery, a mistake, an accident, the failure of a piece of equipment.
    But people who give meaning to instances of coincidence, (which is deemed illogical) would consider this as synchronicity, relevant to the situation, and generally consider that this "short circut" as purposeful.
    It seems people who have a greater tendency to lean towards areas of psi related ability, are those who are aware that these coincidences produce results and they have learned to trust these “moments” with greater distinction and use them to enhance their sensory perception. It may be deemed illogical or unreasonable, but that doesn’t suggest these idiosyncrasies are without purpose or advantage or are useful in some way. I try to keep an open mind.

    ...know what I mean?

    perhaps the brain reacting in this way acts as signal, some form of preparation in relation to an event which has been sensed, and which has been encountered before, and relays relevant information from previous experience in order to enhance adaptability.

    I accept what you say, and you make some interesting points. Yes, there may be reasons for the mechanics of how deja vu works in the brain, but I personally (although I consider myself to have an open mind, and am interested in the paranormal) accept that this is a quirk of imprecise brain operation. I accept your points however, and what I am saying cannot be gospel truth of course, as scientists are still struggling to understand how our mind works inside our brain. The reason why I tend to dismiss deja vu is that to my knowlege, any deja vu experiences anyone ever has had, have not been useful at all.

    For example, any time I have deja vu experiences, I examine the strange feeling, of almost knowing that I was there before/had done the exact same thing before. But the moment passes and my brain returns to normal functioning as quick as the deja vu has happened. Once again, I admit our understanding of time and indeed reality are almost infantile, perhaps because our brains determine our reality, and we must use these organs to work out what reality really is. At any rate, I guess I will ponder more on deja vu! :)

    Nice post btw remote viewer, you make your points well. By your nick, I have to ask you have you tried remote viewing, and have you experienced any success?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,180 ✭✭✭keu


    The reason why I tend to dismiss deja vu is that to my knowlege, any deja vu experiences anyone ever has had, have not been useful at all.
    Maybe only useful in the sense that it leads to questioning areas of inconsistency in our perceptions.
    I wrote a bit about a dejavu experience I had when I was young, and how it often it would occur and the feelings I associated it with were ones that were reminiscent of a fearful moment...and I couldn't associate with what the feeling was, until years later when a moment came to pass and I understood what the feeling was (make sense?)..so in a way I used it to learn how to trust my feelings and how to interpret them better.

    I love the area of remote viewing because it provides a lot of evidence, I did participate in remote viewing experiments, but for the most part I would do it subconsciously (which I think a lot of people do, a bit like telepathy) until someone awakened me to the fact that what I was saying was relevant to a particular issue that was occurring simultaneously, but I found it difficult to view objectively, so on occasion, a colleague would act as a monitor, she would take notes when I was at my yappiest and record instances which coincided with my jabbering. :D ( I did meditate a frequently back then, so I was wired a lot)
    I think when we try or make too much of an effort to do these things, we block or limit our ability to receive impressions freely.
    There is no try..only do type effort.
    But again, so as not to take things at face value, this could all be whittled down to coincidence. The meaning only comes when you see the evidence.
    Interesting area though.

    btw..skepticism can be good and healthy..keeps things in perspective.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,352 ✭✭✭funky penguin


    Originally posted by remote viewer
    makes me wonder what the other 90% is doing the rest of the time.


    If i had to guess, id say my other 90% is mentally undressing women.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,135 ✭✭✭KlodaX


    I was actually going to mention the celestian prophecy ... it was greatly influenced .. and actually gives credit to in the acknowedgements to 'the teachings of don Juan' by Carlos Castaneda... I have yet to read it .. but I have read 'a seperate reality' and 'the art of dreaming' both by carlos and they definitely an eye opener.

    about 8 years ago I went into a book shop .... I'm wasn't a reader but I was going on holidays and wanted something to read on the beach.... I saw a book and went to pick it up ... at the exact same time the woman standing next to me reached out and pick the book up .... and walked away ... my hand was left pointing at the celestain prophecy so I picked it up ... there was only one copy of it. I haven't believed in coincedences since. The more you notice them the more things seem to be interlinked ... its deadly ... I don't believe in much .. but I know for a fact that everything is linked and that I just move from one thing to the next.

    Its a nice feeling... gives me a sort of faith that everything happens for a reason... and that everything comes together in the end when you just open your eyes and let it! :D I'm not really sure what the reason is, but its a really nice feeling.

    I'm going to try to get my hands on the teachings of don juan.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 834 ✭✭✭fragile


    Originally posted by Kermitt
    i also get sort of hints when i'm driving.. like slowing down way more than i have to on a bend for no reason, then a car comes barreling round the corner on the wrong side, just missing my front- happens quite a bit)
    I believe that these experiences are all capabilities of the human brain... we just don't know it yet.

    I disagree, I think that immediately after a shocking experience, such as a car coming speeding around the corner on the wrong side, the adrenaline rush causes all the senses to become more alert and this leads you to remembering vividly that you slowed down. I mean, chances are you slow down a lot, except you dont remember any of these other times because nothing eventful happened.....is that hadn't come around the corner would you have any memory of slowing down going into the conner, and if not, how do you that isn't a common occurence..

    hmm, I hope that makes sense :dunno:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,180 ✭✭✭keu


    the adrenaline rush causes all the senses to become more alert

    can't speak for anyone else, but...
    was passeneger in a car driving through back country roads, when an artic turned into the lane in front of us. I remember watching it at the junction before it pulled out and noted it's load, those great big tractor tyres and thinking, gezes, they don't look very secure. After about five minutes of driving in silence behind it and wondering when they were going to fall off..I said to the driver, I don't like the look of that , the driver shared my opinion and we pulled back a good bit. About two minutes later one of the tyres popped off the side (me almost crapped) to see big tyre hurtling through the air comming right at us. The driver couldn't see the action as it all happened on the passenger side and I'm yelling at him to watch out..("watch out for what") I honestly don't know how the thing didn't hit us, it bounced all over the road and the driver swerved a few times trying to judge where it was going to land after each bounce. (tractor tyre falling off lorry at 50mph is going to crush a car) The truck driver never realised and just kept on driving..so we just put a lot of distance between us and the truck.
    anyways....five minutes later there was a garda checkpoint and by the time we got there, the truck was pulling away from it, gards obviously hadn't thought anything was wrong with it...can imagine the mouthload the driver gave to gaurd when we pulled up.
    So off went speeding garda after lorry.
    Moral?
    About two months later driver was contacted by garda to testify because apparantly someone was killed by a falling tractor tyre.

    now maybe it was just obvious and we were just using common sense, but I knew the minute I saw that lorry that something was going to happen, and it inevitably did.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 834 ✭✭✭fragile


    Originally posted by remote viewer
    now maybe it was just obvious and we were just using common sense, but I knew the minute I saw that lorry that something was going to happen, and it inevitably did.

    If the tyre had not come off, would you have remembered the event? everybody feels dodgy driving behind an artic truck its only natural, so after the whole tyre coming off event, in your shocked/emotional state you made the connection that the dodgy feeling was a premonition..

    remote viewer im not trying to disregard the events that you described, just offering my opinion on human nature, no offence intended

    This is just my opinion, maybe im too much of a cynic and im missing the big picture but I have always had this kind of attitude to these kind of events....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,180 ✭✭✭keu


    no worries.
    If the tyre hadn't come away would I have remembered? Probably not.
    But would I have had the same thought prior to the incident if the situation had been different? Not sure about that one either, but I remember lots about that day. It was a genuinely anxious situation driving behind it for five minutes and the silence was deafening.
    What I do remember about that day (because it is hard to forget now) is the conversation we were having before the truck pulled out. The driver who was familiar with the area was telling me how the place got its name (which I cant remember) but its english translation went something like Hole of the serpant (dragon)or worm or something (its in wexford) and we had a laugh about it..what an ominous name.
    coincidently I recall not long after someone else was killed on the same stretch of road by a horse which was hit by a car and struck a pedestrian.
    so be careful driving through poll na whatever its called.

    either way, I'm glad we reacted to the situation (and listened to our senses)when we did, better safe than sorry.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,005 ✭✭✭MeatProduct


    Originally posted by KlodaX
    I was actually going to mention the celestian prophecy ... it was greatly influenced .. and actually gives credit to in the acknowedgements to 'the teachings of don Juan' by Carlos Castaneda... I have yet to read it .. but I have read 'a seperate reality' and 'the art of dreaming' both by carlos and they definitely an eye opener.
    Funny you should say that because I'm half-way through "The Art of Dreaming" presently. It's an incredible book. You might be interested in reading Robert Monroe's books.

    Nick


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,135 ✭✭✭KlodaX


    Originally posted by MeatProduct
    Funny you should say that because I'm half-way through "The Art of Dreaming" presently. It's an incredible book. You might be interested in reading Robert Monroe's books.

    Nick

    what a coincidence! :D ... funny thing is ... how I came about that book, I'd met a guy a college who was a big reader and I'd never actually finished the last chapter of celestian prophecy ... for some reason... I read it twice but never would finish it, something would always come up .. so I gave it to him to read cause I wanted to know the ending, then he came back to me with the art of dreaming after reading celestians acknowledgements ...

    have you tried practicing anything?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,005 ✭✭✭MeatProduct


    Originally posted by KlodaX
    what a coincidence! :D ... funny thing is ... how I came about that book, I'd met a guy a college who was a big reader and I'd never actually finished the last chapter of celestian prophecy ... for some reason... I read it twice but never would finish it, something would always come up .. so I gave it to him to read cause I wanted to know the ending, then he came back to me with the art of dreaming after reading celestians acknowledgements ...

    have you tried practicing anything?
    Nice one!
    I've started an online astral travel course (http://www.mysticweb.org/phps/netclasses/) that you might find interesting. I'm only seriously getting into lucid dreaming recently and I'm hoping this course will help. I've started this course with some others with the hope of meeting eachother in the astral world once we get good enough at it.

    Nick


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,637 ✭✭✭joePC


    We only use between 5 and 10%

    NO, this is total bullsh*t, created by that clown (whats his name) he bends spoons......

    We actually use closer to 100% of our brain..... .....its been proven.

    Thanks JoePC


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,637 ✭✭✭joePC


    Got it

    urei geller or whatever....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,180 ✭✭✭keu


    We actually use closer to 100% of our brain..... .....its been proven.
    given that you have proof, would you like to share?
    Considering we must use all of our brains, (can't imagine removing 90% of it would be beneficial) the point may be that we don't understand what the other 90% does and this in my opinion is why the areas of psi are being investigated.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,637 ✭✭✭joePC


    Here

    Here

    Here

    & Here


    Dont try & be a smart arse its doesnt suit you.

    Thanks JoePC


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 834 ✭✭✭fragile


    Originally posted by remote viewer
    given that you have proof, would you like to share?

    google for 'ten percent myth'

    http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&q=ten+percent+myth&btnG=Search

    it has never been proven true, but it has never been proven untrue either, lack of proof for a position (or simply lack of information) is used to try to support this claim.

    The following are the two most common reasons put forward against the ten percent theory:

    1. Brain imaging research techniques such as PET scans (positron emission tomography) and fMRI (functional magnetic resonance imaging) clearly show that the vast majority of the brain does not lie fallow. Indeed, although certain minor functions may use only a small part of the brain at one time, any sufficiently complex set of activities or thought patterns will indeed use many parts of the brain. Just as people don't use all of their muscle groups at one time, they also don't use all of their brain at once. For any given activity, such as eating, watching television, making love, or reading Skeptical Inquirer, you may use a few specific parts of your brain. Over the course of a whole day, however, just about all of the brain is used at one time or another.

    2. The myth presupposes an extreme localization of functions in the brain. If the "used" or "necessary" parts of the brain were scattered all around the organ, that would imply that much of the brain is in fact necessary. But the myth implies that the "used" part of the brain is a discrete area, and the "unused" part is like an appendix or tonsil, taking up space but essentially unnecessary. But if all those parts of the brain are unused, removal or damage to the "unused" part of the brain should be minor or unnoticed. Yet people who have suffered head trauma, a stroke, or other brain injury are frequently severely impaired. Have you ever heard a doctor say, ". . . But luckily when that bullet entered his skull, it only damaged the 90 percent of his brain he didn't use"? Of course not.

    of course, joePC may have more compelling proof, but for my part I think the ten-percent theory is complete BS...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,180 ✭✭✭keu


    Would you like me to continue........?
    I think your missing the point.
    90% of the brains functions are not understood.
    smartarse.
    Originally posted by remote viewer
    makes me wonder what the other 90% is doing the rest of the time.

    LOOK


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 834 ✭✭✭fragile


    Coincidentally, the original plot for the Matrix by the Wachowski brothers involved the ten-percent myth. Essentially, the machines used the farms of humans as a huge super-computer, with the 10% that we use catered for by the Matrix, while the other 90% was used by the machines as a huge clustered computer.
    The Studio bosses decided this would be too difficult to understand, so the Wachowski brothers had to come up with the Duracell battery idea.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,637 ✭✭✭joePC


    :D:D:D

    TBH.... We can go back & forth on this issue we will both be dead before anything is ever understood.

    There is not one person on this planet that can do anything different with his/her mind than anyone else.

    So its quite a pointless argument.

    Thanks JoePC


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,180 ✭✭✭keu


    There is not one person on this planet that can do anything different with his/her mind than anyone else.

    with the exception of albert einstein perhaps?

    now f *** off to skeptics, this is a believers forum. wanker.
    the boy with half a brain
    next time you come here, why don't you offer a decent argument.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 834 ✭✭✭fragile


    Originally posted by remote viewer
    with the exception of albert einstein perhaps?

    now f *** off to skeptics, this is a believers forum. wanker.
    the boy with half a brain
    next time you come here, why don't you offer a decent argument.

    I thought this was a discussion forum :dunno: I guess you dont like discussing things with people who disagree with you then :rolleyes:

    Seriously, calling someone a wanker because they offer a different opinion to what you believe is just adolescent, you should try using that 90% of your brain that you calim is lying idle :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,180 ✭✭✭keu


    I thought this was a discussion forum I guess you dont like discussing things with people who disagree with you then

    If you view the other threads I think you might find that I appreciate skepticism as constructive, but it was obvious that guy had no interest in having a discussion, he just wanted to be "right" and didn't really make a good argument. The title of this thread is the human mind.
    Were not discussing the human physiology here, but thats what it generally comes down to.
    (and I called him a wanker as he initiated the name calling and by using some of the 90% of the rest of my brain, I was able to smell the skank and hash off him from all the way over here and determined that he was a wanker)..I'm very sensative ;)
    Ithought this was a discussion forum
    you might also like to take a look at his debating techniques in the thread titled flight 19 where he also displayed his linguistic skills very charmingly. material was offered to him on a neutral basis twice, I doubt he even took the time or effort to read it. Hardly grounds for discussion. It's obvious his intent was malicious aggrevation. TROLLING


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,204 ✭✭✭bug


    remote viewer, please dont rise to personal insults.
    Joepc please consider this a warning personal insults are not tolerated.
    It seems as if nobody here has read the charter or understands the reason why this forum exists. I suggest you all read it again if you havent already.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,204 ✭✭✭bug


    after doing a quick search on it this is all I could find.:dunno:


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 729 ✭✭✭popinfresh


    hmm, my personal opinion is that a lot of psychic powers, mind reading etc all come down to phisiogramy. To give you a very basic example of this. Lets say you are beside some1 on a plane. And there face indicates that they are sly, or angry, you are not going to interact with that person (have a conversation) If you sit beside some1 who's face/body language suggests they're a happy/cheerful person, you will interact with them. This is the basic law behind mind reading. You can ask questions to people, and get the answers out of them purely by analysing how they react to the question asked. By looking at their facial expression :)

    I have my own theory as to why humans only use 10% of their potential brain-power (more of a baseless hypothesis really). My theory is to do with the evolution of man. Before humankind discovered speach, interaction was based entirely on facial expressions. But then, the introduction of speach meant only a fraction of the brain power was needed to get across the same point. Or something to that extent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 834 ✭✭✭fragile


    Originally posted by popinfresh
    My theory is to do with the evolution of man. Before humankind discovered speach, interaction was based entirely on facial expressions. But then, the introduction of speach meant only a fraction of the brain power was needed to get across the same point. Or something to that extent.

    But we still read facial expressions, I mean conversation is much easier/convenient, but I always listen to what my instincts tell me..


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  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 729 ✭✭✭popinfresh


    Yeah, but define instinct for me. Lets say you walk by a group of skangers. The second you see them, your instincts tell you that there might be trouble. Why? Because of their body language, their facial expression. By the way they look at you, your instinct tells you that they want to start on you. Now lets say you walk by a group of people further down the road. They might give a quick glance of eye contact, then look away and continue talking to eachother. Your instincts now tell you that this group of people do not pose a threat to you.
    My theory deserves a lot more explanation than what I'v said above in my last two posts, But I'm going to stick with it. Oh and another thing, I beleive that humans can communicate telepathically (through facial expression, mainly the eyes) . Now by that I do not mean transfering strings of sentences from one brain to another. I mean you can in fact get ideas across to people without saying anything. Next time you watch that Darren Brown fella on channel 4, watch carefully how he does his tricks.....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 42 13


    using 5-10% of your brain is an old wives tale, read about it :)

    derren brown uses suggestive mind control, that is an art of using certain words, tones and imagery to incite what you wish in the observer without them realising it, he has basically already given you the answer. all of this is based on an underlying trust and his confidence. it wouldnt work without it.

    re deja vu: i get it all the time but sometimes not like your usual dejavu, sometimes i get a flash of a room ive never been in before i enter it, and its exactly that image i see when i step in and glance whichever way.. its weird...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,286 ✭✭✭SprostonGreen


    Originally posted by MeatProduct
    Deepak Chopra was recently on the Late Late Show where I think Pat Kenny utterly failed to take any advantage of having such an enlightened individual as his guest. Another person that believes that coincidence does not exist is James Redfield, author of The Tenth Insight and the Celestine Prophecy.

    To get more on topic I don't believe it is just a matter of humanity not using all of the faculties of the brain. It would appear to me that even our most basic building blocks, DNA, have untapped potential that humanity has managed to lose sight of over the ages. A good book that discusses that is The Cosmic Serpent, well worth the read.

    Nick

    I've just read the Celestine Prophecy. Its a great book, I'm gonna mention it to all my friends and encourage them to read it. Great hope for the future.


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    Originally posted by joePC
    :D:D:D

    TBH.... We can go back & forth on this issue we will both be dead before anything is ever understood.

    There is not one person on this planet that can do anything different with his/her mind than anyone else.

    So its quite a pointless argument.

    Thanks JoePC

    This is a slightly untrue statment. Potentially we can all do the same thing with our brian its just a matter of training. If you were to lock sombody in a room from birth till the age of 10 that person's brain capacity will not be the same of an average human of the same age. Physically the brain wil be smaller and that person's brain can not develop much further leaving them with a mental age younger then what they are. This has been proven due to experimets with some unfortunate children. The only thing is we do not know the full potential of the brain nobody does.


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