Dublin Constituency European Election Poll

Go Figure!

If you are or if you were a voter in the Dublin Constituency in the European Election which candidate would you give your number one preference to?

Go Figure!

Give a reason as well when you vote!

The Corinthian

Hobsons choice, TBH. It’s not so much that I wish to vote for anyone, more that I will vote for anyone other than the following:

I remember Bacik as the Student Union president (in TCD) who was forced to resign on account of breaking an official mandate (because she personally disagreed with it, boo-hoo). Anyone that blatently twofaced (or at best unreliable) has lost my vote.

Despard and McKenna both fall into the category of cranks, as far as I’m concerned.

Andrews retires, opens up his European seat for Ryan, who in turn opens up his Dail seat for the next generation of Andrews family politicians. Too cosy a coincidence for my vote.

Nuttzz

it has to be Royston "no gig to small" Brady..... what a crap load of candidates really

jd

Originally posted by Nuttzz
it has to be Royston "no gig to small" Brady..... what a crap load of candidates really

you joke..i hope..

sleepwalker

I remember Bacik as the Student Union president (in TCD) who was forced to resign on account of breaking an official mandate (because she personally disagreed with it, boo-hoo). Anyone that blatently twofaced (or at best unreliable) has lost my vote

a students union well as you said yourself boo-hoo who cares, we're talking about the european elections here

The Corinthian

Originally posted by sleepwalker
a students union well as you said yourself boo-hoo who cares, we're talking about the european elections here

Actually I was talking about trustworthiness.

If a representative is democratically mandated they are obliged to honour that mandate. If it goes against their principle then they can always resign from office. Otherwise they cannot be trusted to follow any future mandate they may simply decide not to personally agree with.

That would pretty much any such politician - that they did so as student politician does not absolve them.

sleepwalker

no it does not absolve them but I think judging her on her actions in a student union when you are trying to decide a vote for a European election is a bit much. what was this mandate she went against anyway ?


but anyway on topic I shall be casting my vote for De Rossa although I suspect Royston Brady will be owning this election after his outcry for Open House to not be cancelled

The Corinthian

Originally posted by sleepwalker
no it does not absolve them but I think judging her on her actions in a student union when you are trying to decide a vote for a European election is a bit much.

People don't change that much in character, TBH. She's never apologised for her actions or even admitted she was wrong, AFAIK, so she could well do so again if it suited her.

I'm simply saying that I personally wouldn't vote for her as I would trust her as far as I’d spit a dead rat - not saying I'd trust any of the other candidates, BTW.

Just my own democratic opinion.

Redleslie2

Too bad that a General Pinochet type character (or even Pinochet himself) isn't running. It'd give mature non-cranks like Corinthian here someone to vote for.



Just what the country and the EU needs. :rolleyes:

The Corinthian

Originally posted by Redleslie2
Too bad that a General Pinochet type character (or even Pinochet himself) isn't running. It'd give mature non-cranks like Corinthian here someone to vote for.

Indeed. If he were, I wouldn’t have to listen to your adolescent prattle for a start.

sleepwalker

seems like a fair enough reason, i dont see why she should apologise for standing up against something she obviously didnt believe in though but anyway we're going around in circles here

The Corinthian

Originally posted by sleepwalker
seems like a fair enough reason, i dont see why she should apologise for standing up against something she obviously didnt believe in though but anyway we're going around in circles here

I wouldn't expect anyone to apologise for standing up against something they didn't believe in, but I would expect them to resign rather than vote against against a mandate that they are expected to follow.

Redleslie2

Originally posted by The Corinthian
Indeed. If he were, I wouldn’t have to listen to your adolescent prattle for a start.

Kidnapping, torturing and murdering those who don't know their place probably wouldn't play too well on the doorstep these days so I doubt whether your "good guy" would be able to get his "message" far enough beyond his tiny hardcore following of mature woman hating sadists to get elected unfortunately.

The Corinthian

Originally posted by Redleslie2
Kidnapping, torturing and murdering those who don't know their place probably wouldn't play too well on the doorstep these days so I doubt whether your "good guy" would be able to get his "message" far enough beyond his tiny hardcore following of mature woman hating sadists to get elected unfortunately.

Maybe you’d prefer an adolescent parasitic anarchist in power instead?

Come the revolution no doubt. I’ll bring the biscuits.

bonkey

You know...both Redleslie (oh, sorry, the reincarnation of redleslie) and Corinthian....you've both been around long enough that I find myself wondering why I should even bother reminding you of the rules.....

jc

Redleslie2

Originally posted by The Corinthian
Maybe you’d prefer an adolescent parasitic anarchist in power instead?

Bacik is an adolescent parasitic anarchist is she? :rolleyes: Fantasising about dictators and torture and the like is not a sign of maturity in the real world you know.

Sleipnir

An independant.
They are all in it together, FG and FF are in each others pockets and I would like for the large political parties to see more votes going to none of them.

The Corinthian

Originally posted by Redleslie2
Bacik is an adolescent parasitic anarchist is she? :rolleyes:

When have I mentioned Bacik to you here in this little exchange of ours? I doubt if any of those attributes describe her. You on the other hand...

Fantasising about dictators and torture and the like is not a sign of maturity in the real world you know.

TBH, you're the only one who's fantasising about dictators and torture in this thread. All I've fantasised about is your shutting up.

bonkey

FFS.

I am not issuing a warning again.

Give it up, or be banned. Both of you.

jc

Nuttzz

Originally posted by jd
you joke..i hope..

I'd vote for Royston if it meant that he would be out of the country for the next couple of years and I didnt have to look at it or hear him, if he was to be a TD we'd never heard the end of him

€5 says he will be a FF leader in the next 10 years

ArthurDent

Originally posted by Nuttzz
I'd vote for Royston if it meant that he would be out of the country for the next couple of years and I didnt have to look at it or hear him, if he was to be a TD we'd never heard the end of him

€5 says he will be a FF leader in the next 10 years

lol - the only good reason I've ever heard for voting for him!:p

I'd nearly be tempted to give him my no. 2 preference, if it meant he'd dissappear - now there's something I'd never thought I'd say

Victor

Originally posted by sleepwalker
no it does not absolve them but I think judging her on her actions in a student union when you are trying to decide a vote for a European election is a bit much.

Sounds like the Beverly Flynn excuse.

Sarsfield

My preference is for Gay Mitchell. However, I seriously don't want to see a Shinner representing Dublin in Europe, so I'm thinking of doing a bit of tactical voting.

Mitchell is pretty safe by all accounts, but the latest Irish Times opinion poll has MaryLou battling it out with Eoin Ryan for the last seat. This may force me to vote Ryan No.1 You've no idea how much that will hurt :ninja:

Victor

Originally posted by Sarsfield
Mitchell is pretty safe by all accounts, but the latest Irish Times opinion poll has MaryLou battling it out with Eoin Ryan for the last seat. This may force me to vote Ryan No.1 You've no idea how much that will hurt :ninja:

Well thats the beauty of PR-STV, you can vote for Mitchell *and* put Ryan ahead of Mary Lou. Quite simply your vote (if surplus) would be transferred to Ryan. All you have to do is have Ryan at a numerically lower preference.

Sarsfield

I've never been an expert on the STV system, but AFAIK, if I were to vote Mitchell 1, Ryan 2, there is no guarantee that my vote would be transferred to Ryan in the event of Micthell exceeding the quota. Only a 'representative sample' of the vote gets transferred as no-one can say "Sarsfields vote is a surplus one but Victors isn't".

Only in the event of my number 1 candidate being eliminated is my vote ensured to be transferred to my next preference as all votes for the eliminated candidate are transferred. So in order to GUARANTEE that Ryan benefits from my vote I must vote him number 1.

I am definitely open to correction on this.

sleepwalker

Sounds like the Beverly Flynn excuse.

why did Ivana Baick encourage all the students to evade tax ?

The Corinthian

Originally posted by sleepwalker
why did Ivana Baick encourage all the students to evade tax ?

That's not what he meant, but you know that already...

Victor

Originally posted by sleepwalker
why did Ivana Baick encourage all the students to evade tax ?

I don't know why she did it.

leonotron

Royston is way out of his depth in this election. Anyone that thinks about voting for him should remember that the tax payer paid for his wedding reception? Were you invited though?

Agent Smith

you serious?

ffs... he's getting my last pref vote,
voteing mary lou myself, only wantabee MEP who called to my house HERSELF....


so it's
sinn fein 1
labour 2,3
brady Last

sceptre

Apparently Royston never turns up for UCD Governing Authority meetings either, even though he's on the body as lord mayor. Never mind, those "Vote Royston" posters on Fair City will probably go a long way.

Did he never pay back that money for the wedding then? He said he would.

Victor

Originally posted by sceptre
Did he never pay back that money for the wedding then?

I don't know, but the e-mail address on his a free one from the city council (dublin.ie). He has never attended council Transport & Traffic Committee meetings either. Makes you wonder what he has spent his last doing.

AngelofFire

1.Pronsias Da Rossa(Labour) -For his work on the Eu consititution

2.Ivana Bacik-(Labour)As labours second candidate

3.Patricia McKenna- (Green party)expect opinion poles to sway in her favour after the release of the day after tomorrow.

4.Joe Higgins- (Socialist party)We need a voice like him on a european level.

sceptre

Originally posted by AngelofFire
expect opinion poles to sway in her favour after the release of the day after tomorrow.

Heh.

Rolo Tomasi

I dont think I will vote along party lines in the European elections. If either Patricia McKenna or Joe Higgins were to be elected they would provide a very vocal presence in the European parliament. I normally vote Labour and so see merit in both candidates mandates.
I feel Brady would be fairly anonymous within Europe and would only see him again when he's seeking re-election or seeking a nomination in a future general election.

Just my 10 cent, my 2 cent's free!

tomcosgrave

<i>voteing mary lou myself, only wantabee MEP who called to my house HERSELF....</i>

Is that your only reason for giving her a vote? Jaysus, you must be an easy pushover.

Go Figure!

Just voted as follows:

1. Evana Bacik

2. Patricia McKenna

3. Proinsias De Rossa

4. Gay Mitchell

5. Brendan Price

6. Tom Prendeville

How has anybody else voted?

Lemming

I will be voting McKenna, Bacik (sorry DeV), and DeRossa on account of their stance against the current proposed EU software patent bill.

Bad karma all 'round if it goes through for the indigenous IT companies

PaulHughesWH

Ivana Bacik topping the poll? Leinster is not my constituency, but I think Dubs voting for that insufferable woman want their head examined.

gandalf

Originally posted by PaulHughesWH
Ivana Bacik topping the poll? Leinster is not my constituency, but I think Dubs voting for that insufferable woman want their head examined.

Well its better than voting for Justin Barrett

People probably know how I voted but I put Royston and Mary Lou at the bottom of the list

Polling was extremely brisk in my area with the polling station the busiest I have seen it in years. Either FF have got everyone out or there is a lot of pissed off people protest voting!!!

Lemming

Heh - the polling station was absolutely packed, as Gandalf said (we're ariound the corner from each other), and I knwo of people who have travelled from as far as Galway to vote in this one!

FF are boned .....

I didn't vote for _ANY_ FF, PD, Shinner, or Workers Party (with the exception of Higgins at MEP level). I made a point of casting 6 votes in each election paper to show my utter disatisfaction with the above

PaulHughesWH

Originally posted by gandalf
Well its better than voting for Justin Barrett

Oh gandalf, you know how much I beg to differ! :cool:

Victor

I felt dirty after voting.

Must wash