how likely is "trusted computing" to actually happen

whosurpaddy

just saw a link to http://www.againsttcpa.com/index.shtml on another forum and had a bit of a read. shocking stuff. is it a bit alarmist or is this the reality of what microsoft et all are trying to introduce, and what are your views on it?

uberpixie

Its the next step really. It has been on the horizon for the last 2 or 3 years.

Hopefully it will never come in. The last thing I want is some silly copyright protection telling me that the new cd I bought and I have just tried to rip to MP3 is illegal to do or I have to buy a licence to do it!

Happens enough as it is with Net MD software imagine when its windows!

It has a good chance of coming in if the music and movie biz start throwing money at it.

Lets say they sponser Dell to put in copyright protected hardisks in all their new PCs with the new MS LongHorn multimedia edition :-)

The real decision will be made with the hardware manufacturers, especially hard drive makers.

Its all up to them. Maybe they will start selling harddrives to enthusiasts without the copy protection for double the normal price when this **** lands:-)

seamus

It's a completely ridiculous concept.
I think it's something that could possibly be passed within the USA, but the extent of the backlash would soon force it to be repealed.

It is something that if given to professionals for consultation, will obviously be completely rubbished and shown to be detrimental to jobs and freedom. It could literally do serious damage to the world's economy if everyone was forced to adopt this.

While it's something that would be extremely useful for large companies - users cannot install anything dangerous, and viruses cannot propagate.

But for home users, computer enthusiasts, web developers, amateur/learner programmers, in fact anyone who isn't connected to a corporate network, it's restrictive, and infringing on freedom. A bit like buyign a pair of shoes and making it illegal for you to wear them in places that don't have a licence. Preposterous.

whosurpaddy

the thing that really surprised me is that it it would be in every piece of hardware, not just software.

and seamus i completely agree that it is preposterous and restrictive to everyone who is not a big corporation, but all the major players in software, hardware and pc distribution seem to be in on it.

hopefully they are not as intent on pushing it through as the site claims.

Civilian_Target

It all depends on the hardware manufacturers and how much it will cost the enduser to get a trusted PC.

Personally, I hope it will never happen, and if they try to put it in Longhorn I'll dump Windows from my HD all together, hopefully Linux will still work.

Actually, the best hope lies in the Far East where hopefully theyll all ignore Microsoft.

That said, MS have enough clout to put 3 extra keys on your keyboard, and intel have enough clout to put ID numbers on your processer. IBM can write things with single atoms, so you can imagine how powerful and IBM/Intel/Microsoft alliance is....

whosurpaddy

it also depends on whether the general user would actually rather dump windows than accept this onto their pc. and Ms has a history of easing these kinda things in with a little more each time a new windows version is released to cut down the protests.

SantaHoe

They can't force me to upgrade my hardware or software.
PCs are fast enough now anyway - we don't need to upgrade anymore
I'll stay in a PC time warp just to spite them.
So my old speccy 48k doesn't have a 'fritz' chip installed, what're they gonna do about it?
Back to casettes and snail-mail

Deus-Ex was right about the government being pussy-whipped by big corporations tbh.