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Marriage and virginity question

  • 07-05-2004 9:02pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,558 ✭✭✭


    Hi!

    As you probably understood from the name of the topic I'm interested in your opinions about marrying a non virgin girl, what do you think about it? does it matter to you? does it bother you that the girl you are about to marry is not a virgin? of course you shouldn't expect women over 30 to be virgins but.... be honest not 30 but it's hard to find a non virgin girl over 18!

    I'm not saying that I'm against marrying non virgins, actually I don't care, but couple of days ago I was at this party where they started talking about this and many people actually cared! which surprized me! I'm just interested in what you guys think about it


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,396 ✭✭✭✭Karoma


    indifferent.

    may i ask: why is she a virgin?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 302 ✭✭Auburn


    Over 18? That's a bit optimistic.

    I don't understand why some men have this obsession. I think it was more common years ago. They want someone who's sweetness and light, brimming with innocence and then expect her to be dynamite in bed. Sorry, but the two don't go together.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,396 ✭✭✭✭Karoma


    Originally posted by Auburn
    Over 18? That's a bit optimistic.

    I don't understand why some men have this obsession. I think it was more common years ago. They want someone who's sweetness and light, brimming with innocence and then expect her to be dynamite in bed. Sorry, but the two don't go together.

    i'd agree that initially sex will probably be really crap - especially if you care / love her - you won't enjoy hurting her...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 302 ✭✭Auburn


    Originally posted by Karoma
    you won't enjoy hurting her...

    Why are my sarcasm detectors going off?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,894 ✭✭✭Chinafoot


    also indifferent.

    as for it being difficult to find a virgin over 18, i dont see that as a necessarily bad thing. i mean its over the legal age and theres not too many men or women these days that are of the belief that sex is only meant for people in love and then in turn should only be carried out in marriage.

    i've been in love and wanted to sleep with him. didnt mean i was going to marry him.

    however i think if people strongly believe in it then fair play to them.

    oh and just a question....are u a virgin?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,894 ✭✭✭Chinafoot


    oh and did anyone else notice that while some men do have this obsession many of them arent virgins?? whats that all about? why should they get their leg over and then refuse to marry a girl unless she's a virgin? doesnt make much sense really.:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,396 ✭✭✭✭Karoma


    no sarcasm.

    (since he's not replying any time soon) I'll answer for him-no. he is not a virgin. (....c'mon!)

    use the edit function :)


    virgins are few and far between .:. 'exotic'. double standards as you'd expect... :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,558 ✭✭✭CyberGhost


    who is not?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,396 ✭✭✭✭Karoma


    Originally posted by CyberGhost
    who is not?

    ....?...
    :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 302 ✭✭Auburn


    You.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,558 ✭✭✭CyberGhost


    yea I'm not!

    but i'm a man! it's ok with me!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,894 ✭✭✭Chinafoot


    Originally posted by CyberGhost
    yea I'm not!

    but i'm a man! it's ok with me!

    WTF?? :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 302 ✭✭Auburn


    Originally posted by peachypants
    WTF?? :confused:

    You may notice that you asked him a question about eightposts up? :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,396 ✭✭✭✭Karoma


    *vvoooooOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooom* the point just missed me!

    double standards it seems has proven true...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,558 ✭✭✭CyberGhost


    Originally posted by Auburn
    You may notice that you asked him a question about eightposts up? :D

    heheh


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,396 ✭✭✭✭Karoma


    roiiiight...slipped further into the quicksand that is PI thread :rolleyes:
    goodnight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,997 ✭✭✭The_Bullman


    I don't think being a virgin when getting married is all that important in Ireland. However, in other countries, for example America (especially the so called bible belt) it seems to be more important. Of course they seem to get married at a much younger age-presumably because they were gagging for it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,894 ✭✭✭Chinafoot


    why thank you auburn i was aware of that. my WTF was related to the "i'm a man!" part of his response.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,357 ✭✭✭secret_squirrel


    I couldnt imagine marrying anyone I hadnt had sex with, I mean its an important part of a normal healthy relationship.

    IMHO you'd have to be a control freak or a religious nutcase to insist the girl you marry is a virgin. In this day and age??? I dont think so.

    I'd hope that the poor woman I end up marrying had taught me a thing or two before the wedding!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,048 ✭✭✭Lainey


    Originally posted by secret_squirrel
    I couldnt imagine marrying anyone I hadnt had sex with, I mean its an important part of a normal healthy relationship.

    have to agree with this... could never marry someone intendig to spend the rest of my life with them and not know what we were like together.. no way.. :dunno:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24 FireFly


    I'm from the American bible belt area...virginity is not really the big issue its how often does one sleep around and the reason why most people get married around here at a young age is because they got pregnant.

    Besides alot of guys I know probably wouldn't marry a virgin but are fascinated with trying to score one

    Me on the other hand I wouldn't want a virgin guy...I want someone with experience with me


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,372 ✭✭✭silverside


    ah c'mere - this should be in AH

    how many virgins do you find around these days at a marriageable age? No disrespect to anyone who is.

    Most people have played the field for a while, nothing wrong with that at all.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 598 ✭✭✭DrummerBoy


    This kinda reminds me of an expression that a girl I used to work with told me. Her mom had told her "X, remember this. You gotta sleep with the whore and marry the virgin"
    I fell about laughing when i heard this. Just thought it was class!!


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 7,486 ✭✭✭Red Alert


    It wouldn't really bother me at all whether she was or not. If she's not then the sex is probably going to be a bit better... practice makes perfect.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,777 ✭✭✭✭The Corinthian


    I always got the impression that men who want to marry virgins, did so because they did not want to be compared with any other man on account that they would probably come up wanting, as it were.

    And, TBH, most women bring enough emotional baggage to a relationship without adding their deflowering to it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 227 ✭✭Syke


    i only ever sleep with virgins. every girl so far for me usually in first year college so if ya go to freshers balls in autumn you get a good pick. lotsa people say they like the chase and stuff and i think a challenge is a turnon. ya gotta lower your standards sometimes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,366 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    Why would anyone keep their virginity until their weddings nowadays? Surely we're past the repressive Catholic nonsense that plagued our country for so long?

    I couldn't marry someone I hadn't been in a relationship with for a long time and during that length of time I would expect to be having a sexual relationship with that person.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 42,362 Mod ✭✭✭✭Beruthiel


    this is not a personal issue
    moved to AH
    B


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 39 villain_97


    I think it's unlikely a person in todays Ireland is gona wait until marriage to have sex.I agree with much of what has been said above.In terms of children,I think I would hate to have children outside of marriage so I take precaution while having sex.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,618 ✭✭✭Civilian_Target


    Hear hear. Marriage is the time when you stop buying condoms.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,746 ✭✭✭pork99


    She had damn well better be a virgin or I will want my money back


  • Subscribers Posts: 9,716 ✭✭✭CuLT


    Originally posted by Civilian_Target
    Hear hear. Marriage is the time when you stop buying condoms.

    Or start; who the hell wants 20 kids sucking up their income?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24 FireFly


    Here's a question for the guys...I've heard that sex is better for the guys mostly without condoms is that true?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,558 ✭✭✭CyberGhost


    yes!

    without comdoms you feel more!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,472 ✭✭✭AdMMM


    Originally posted by FireFly
    Here's a question for the guys...I've heard that sex is better for the guys mostly without condoms is that true?

    Even those ultra-thin ones can't compare...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,578 ✭✭✭Slutmonkey57b


    I've been waiting for this day.

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    Now I can post the TRUTH without fear of "don't offend the poster" police down on my head getting me banned.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,558 ✭✭✭CyberGhost


    wow! now i know why you called yourself slut, you are a slut


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 427 ✭✭Saviour_Angel


    Originally posted by Karoma


    may i ask: why is she a virgin?

    Because she hasn't had sex yet !


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 18,002 Mod ✭✭✭✭ixoy


    I'm completely befuddled as to why any man would expect his fianceé to be a virgin unless he too was in the same boat. I suppose it's viable to want to marry a virgin, however, if you're looking to performi blood sacrifice to Satan. In that case I thiink it's acceptable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,929 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    Cos it's a troll.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,166 ✭✭✭Johnny Versace


    Originally posted by ixoy
    I'm completely befuddled as to why any man would expect his fianceé to be a virgin unless he too was in the same boat. I suppose it's viable to want to marry a virgin, however, if you're looking to performi blood sacrifice to Satan. In that case I thiink it's acceptable.

    Yup. It's a little prehistoric, and utterly unreasonable, for my tastes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,892 ✭✭✭Kersh


    I dont really mind either, just once she is not a bike. Or has gone around a circle of friends. I would not say there are many 18+ virgins out there...that are any fun...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 248 ✭✭catsup


    im thinkin that the men who want to marry virgins are doing so because they cant take criticism. having no prior carnal knowledge means the woman has nothing to compare the marital bed to.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,166 ✭✭✭Johnny Versace


    Originally posted by catsup
    im thinkin that the men who want to marry virgins are doing so because they cant take criticism. having no prior carnal knowledge means the woman has nothing to compare the marital bed to.

    I think he also has some kind of jealousy/controlling issues.

    I mean, what's so bad about a woman whose had sex before? I can't think of anything wrong with it...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,558 ✭✭✭CyberGhost


    yea man! the started of this thread is a complete troll!

    Get lost!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,375 ✭✭✭Antisocialiser


    Youd have to be shaggin her before you got married so she wouldnt be a virgin. I wouldnt want to spend 3 (at least) pre-marital years without the ride


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,828 ✭✭✭ven0m


    All I know is if I marry someone, I ain't got the patience to teach them alllll the filth I know, so they better be a pro ... LOL.... so much filth so little time.... ain't it always like that?????


    :: THE SILVER SURFER ::


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,525 ✭✭✭JustHalf


    This is one weird thread.

    I'd like to get married. If I do, I don't really mind if my wife isn't a virgin.

    I'd like to have remained a virgin myself until I get married. I also think it's perfectly understandable that people have hang-ups about being compared to other people with regards to their sexual performance. Sex is something that most people have hang-ups about.

    The only good reason I can think of for wanting to marry a virgin is that, if I do, I can wear my "Worst lover my wife has ever had" t-shirt without it being embarassingly accurate.

    I fear any woman I might marry would stab me for that kind of thing, but such sacrifices must be made for the sake of the joke.


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