NTL Broadband in south dub

Boro

I was talking to one of their sales guys last night and he assured me that NTL were rolling out broadband in new areas next month. D6,7,8,9 were mentioned. He said that brochures should be posted out within the next 2 weeks.
This is great news if its true, me living just outside their current area. Anyone else heard anything about it? Or was this a 'tell him something nice to make him go away' line?

karlh

I was talking to them last week and i was told that there was no time frame decided as to when they would expeand the serive. I am in D8 and just oredered a phone line solely for broadband. gonna cost me ~€65 a month all in and another €200 in install fees altogether.


if you hear any more about, please post so i can cancel it. god i hate giving eircom money......

:dunno:

fiacha

I was speaking to NTL yesterday afternoon about BB service for D7. They said that there would be major rollouts all over Dublin in the next few months, but they had not been given the schedule.

I'm about to sign-up for Eircom Home Starter and it would kill me to have NTL available in the next couple of months.
Altough, if the service was as good as it appears to be currently, i'd probably be happy to buy out of the eircom contract and get rid of the phone line.

OfflerCrocGod

The have been saying these things for the last 3 years......I'll believe there is a major rollout when I can actually order it. I'd love to have a 1Mb line:D.

Lex_Diamonds

If it does actually happen, it will just be that 128k piece of crap they will run over the non upgraded lines.

crawler

Errr...Confused - 128k on non upgraded lines??? Cable systems are either one way or two way....they "do" or "dont" provide Broadband.....I'm a tad confused there Ted

spongebob

D7 is very far south innit.

M

crawler

See, it takes a non-Dub to spot that the Dubs cant even get the post codes right !! Muck is never one to be outdone!

Oh and NTL offer a 150Kbps service as a min , at least that's the min today....I tihnk??

OfflerCrocGod

Originally posted by crawler
Oh and NTL offer a 150Kbps service as a min , at least that's the min today....I tihnk??

Is that not just in the UK?, surely there is no point in going for that service when the 600kb~ one is €30?. 150kb how much is that?, €17?.

carrotcake

you might want to have a look at the ntl website!

milltown

150kbps = €30/month
600kbps = €40/month
1024kbps = €50/month

I don't know why anybody would get the 150k service. 1meg is teh winnar

Sarsfield

That suggests they've realised there is money to be made in broadband! I'd consider the new prices to be the sign of a new attitude. I'm more optimistic of a wider rollout now.

Ripwave

Originally posted by Sarsfield
I'd consider the new prices to be the sign of a new attitude. I'm more optimistic of a wider rollout now.

Some new attitude - everyone else is bringing down the cost of Broadband, except NTL, who are now putting the price up.

Why would anyone (except a warezmonkey) pay €40 for NTL instead of €30 for DSL, if they can get DSL? (and have a phone line anyway).

Boro

Maybe cos they dont have phonelines? or cant put up wireless gear on the house (rented accom)? Maybe its just that they fancy the 30gb cap (1gb per day).

Well thats my situation anyway.

Ive never been accused of being a dub before!
(/me is innocent culchie up from the hicks)

Blub2k4

Originally posted by Ripwave
Why would anyone (except a warezmonkey) pay €40 for NTL instead of €30 for DSL, if they can get DSL? (and have a phone line anyway).

you have the answer there, how many people do you now know who have no telephone line at home? I know that these days I only call people on the mobile and have not had a land line in over three years. How many people do you know who dont have NTL in Dublin? Not too many would be my guess.
p.s how many gb in the average linux distro to be downloaded? wouldn't be long before I had 8gb used.

Ripwave

Originally posted by Blub2k4
you have the answer there, how many people do you now know who have no telephone line at home?

How many interent users do you know that don't have a phone line installed? (It's a rhetorical question, as I clearly said "if they can get DSL"). 87% of homes have a phone line.

How many people do you know who dont have NTL in Dublin? Not too many would be my guess.

Juding by the number of Sky dishes I see around, there a lot of people who don't have NTL.

p.s how many gb in the average linux distro to be downloaded? wouldn't be long before I had 8gb used.

How many times have you installed Linux in the last 12 months?

As it happens, I downloaded the most recent Redhat at work just last week. It was 1.8G. And it's a long time since the previous version was released. If I don't load another linux distro at any time in the next 6 months, I'd be surprised. And that means I'll have downloaded more linux distros than most of NTLs customers.

MagicBusDriver

NTL is significantly more reliable than UTV, IOL or Eircom ADSL. I had Eircom ADSL installed for a while. NTL was more reliable. Eircom adsl is consdered more reliable on this forum when compared with IOL or UTV ADSL.

NTL has a lower latency than eircom ADSL.

NTL have a reasonably priced 1MB option.

NTL offer free install.

NTL are not eircom.

NTL do not disconnect you every night to calculate how much data you have used.

NTL have no username/password connection rubbish.

milltown

I don't agree with anything he's saying here but iirc Ripwave is involved with one of the wireless ISPs (open to correction on that). Not surprised to see him running down the competition but wonder why he's not pimping his own wares instead of Eircoms.

As it happens, although I live in a new housing estate within range of an enabled exchange Eircom were unable to offer me DSL, nor any hope of future DSL. After a time using IrishWAN I nearly bit the NTL rep's arm off when he came offering fast reliable and practically uncapped broadband.

Ripwave

Originally posted by milltown
I don't agree with anything he's saying here but iirc Ripwave is involved with one of the wireless ISPs (open to correction on that).

Consider yourself corrected. I'm a customer of IBB, no more than that.

Not surprised to see him running down the competition but wonder why he's not pimping his own wares instead of Eircoms.

Maybe you should learn to read - I'm not pimping anything.

I am wondering why people are pushing the only broadband provider in Ireland that has raised it's prices?

As it happens, although I live in a new housing estate within range of an enabled exchange Eircom were unable to offer me DSL, nor any hope of future DSL. After a time using IrishWAN I nearly bit the NTL rep's arm off when he came offering fast reliable and practically uncapped broadband.

Which is why I asked why anyone who had a choice would chose to pay extra for NTL, unless they're a warez monkey who wants 30G a month of stuff that he'll never get around to looking at or listening to??

(There was a time when I was a big proponent of anyone who would compete with eircom and help drive broadband prices down. As NTL are no longer competing with eircom on price, I no longer think that they are going to have that much influence on the market).

Ripwave

Originally posted by MagicBusDriver
NTL is significantly more reliable than UTV, IOL or Eircom ADSL.

NTL costs 33% more per month that UTV.

OfflerCrocGod

Originally posted by Ripwave
NTL costs 33% more per month that UTV.

Yes but they are faster (600kb - negligible speed increase over 512kb but it's there), they have a bigger cap, 30GB is reasonable, they also ping lower to UK servers. And the biggest reason (already mentioned above) is they are not €ircon - if NTL were to extend their cable net service around Dublin I would immediately dump IOLBB and jump on the €50 1Mb line, I would enjoy less waiting on my downloads and I would be one less customer for the monopoly to fleece. With that sort of competition €ircon may finally begin to bring their prices down/caps up.

GerardKeating

Originally posted by Ripwave
NTL costs 33% more per month that UTV.

Depends on how you do the fiigures.

UTV force you to take a phone service, which is not the cheapest service out there.

NTL is also about 25% faster (60KB vs 512)

NTL contention is more than 100% "better" (20:1 vs 48:1)


Of course with NTL, you must also subscribe to basic TV package, @ EUR 12 a month.

And with UTV, you must also pay Eircom EUR25 a month for the phone line.

Da Man

Is that a 1Gb per day cap or a 30Gb per month cap? Quite a difference.

Gonzo

my cousin rang up ntl to find out what his cap was and they told him 3gig a day, that was for the 1mb service tho. I read everywhere tho that its 1gig a day.

tuxy

Originally posted by Da Man
Is that a 1Gb per day cap or a 30Gb per month cap? Quite a difference.

1 gb a day but not enforced

Civilian_Target

NTL are great. What you're failing to appreciate is that along with that broadband (in Belfast anyway) you get a free phoneline, so your line rental is included in the cost of the broadband. Given that an Eircom phoneline costs €22.50 a month, NTL is a lot cheaper.

Here in Belfast we've just signed up to their new £38 1.5 Mbit package. It's ace.

Superman

i'm annoyed

i know someone who live about 500-700 yards away, as the crow flies. and he can get it but i'm not eligeble!!!

pity cause he hardly uses it

milltown

Righto. Apologies for the pimping slurs Ripwave.

But:

NTL have not raised their prices. The 600k service when it was in Tallaght only was £35 plus either £5/month modem rental or you could buy their modem for about £130. Convert that little lot to eurons and the price has in fact come down as the €40/month includes modem rental.

BTW how is there "quite a difference" between 1GB/day and 30 GB/month DaMan? Do you mean Esat/Eircom allow you to download your entire (lol) 8GB in a day or two, and NTL don't? What is your point there? Not flaming, just confused.

While I do not consider myself a warez monkey, I do download quite a bit of stuff. I like to watch new episodes of The Simpsons and Friends just after they have been shown in the states, rather than wait for N2 or Sky to show them. I am not averse to grabbing the odd game to try out before I buy it or a movie that I know my wife will have no interest in seeing with me.

Bottom line is: The way I use the internet, NTL offers me freedom to do what I want at what I consider a better than reasonable price.

(now who sounds like the pimp )

Mercury_Tilt

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OfflerCrocGod

Originally posted by milltown
(now who sounds like the pimp )

No need to pimp a superior service, it sells itself......if you CAN buy it:(

milltown

See?
These guys know!

Boro

As an update, NTL upgraded my area about 3 weeks ago and i got the 1meg line in today. Much goodness.

Id advise people to check with NTL again if they want the bb.

daramullally

Boro,

What area are you in? Have NTL started upgrading outside of the usual areas od D12, 24, 6W and Lucan.

By the way, I have NTL BB too. Its the business.:D

Boro

im in d6w, priory way, whitehall road.
It wasnt available in my estate until about 3 weeks ago.

karlh

i emailed them yesterday about getting it in D8 and got the standard response that they have no timeframe for expanding broadband coverage.

i'm on SCR, so frickin close but so far away....

Raoul Duke

I saw them digging up the road near the Crumlin shopping centre during the week but it was probably just repairs or something.

dub45

Originally posted by Raoul Duke
I saw them digging up the road near the Crumlin shopping centre during the week but it was probably just repairs or something.

I am in Kilmainham - they upgraded the external connections in the past fortnight but there is no sign of bb being available yet.