my evisceration.

LegacyUser

i can feel the forces of good and evil transacting within me. i stopped going to mass about

two years ago

i find myself unable to empathise with others.
my parents no longer have worth. i like my reflection in the sharp surfaces of knives

i met a girl the other day aswell but she didn't understand me. she hates me and so do all

of them

sometimes i wish i had a nuclear bomb and it went off and only i was left to play in the

charred filth that remained

there was a pain in the wall the other day but i shouted it out

there is a plinth stretchjign out from mm my window pain over the gardemn.. i goi theree so

hey ccant recah me

Gordon

Riiight....

Please define problem more succinctly. Elaborate as you have with your imagery, but elaborate with your personal issue.

Were you smoking last night or drinking?

Going Demented

I'm not being horrible but is the spelling errors at the end from being drunk (which is strange as your spelling was fine to begin with) or is it for "effect" as well as the guestname.

I find it hard to believe this is genuine. If it is see a doctor.

Deadwing

I find it hard to believe this is genuine. If it is see a doctor. [/B]

Hear hear. Sounds to me like one of the kids from central bank drank the entire can last night and made his/her way online.
If this is a genuine problem tho, sorry, but you shouldve written it down so as not to sound like a whiny teen begging for attention.

Lafortezza

Creative Writing tbh

joePC

Creative Writing tbh

Yeah tis good as well.

mr_angry

Congratulations on reaching the keyboard from all the way out on that plinth. Or rather thanks to Intel's new mobile Centrino processors, you can now spam Boards from anywhere. Even outside!

On the off-chance that this is genuine, I apologise for taking the piss, and agree that you should probably talk to somebody about these 'feelings', or lack thereof.

Boston

hmm I thought to myself this may be spoof, but I'm not 100% sure it is, if a moderator decides that is deserves attention you shouldn't rip into this guy. Thing about how it looks to others with problems. Making then to afraid to talk about them for fear of being called a troll or what ever. Is this how you people get your kicks? by puttign down others. If you haven't any thing to contribute then don't post and also engage the brain, maybe this is the only way the chap can express himself.

Falkorre

I agree,.. different people with different problems react and communicate in different ways, and to judge somone who vents a problem, maybe in the only way they can, as being a drunk teen or an idiot is disgusting. :mad:
This being the PI forum, u shud know better, people in crisis often arent the most coherant people in the world, and as long as somone isnt posting this as a joke, which i seriously doubt, this post needs serious consideration and only the mods can / should be the judges.

Somhow, i dont see how what he/she has said can be taken as a joke.

I also am not convinced this is a spoof, and after reading this, would much prefere to err on the side of caution.

If it is not.
Bled, I want to ask you to talk to somone face to face or whatever way you can about these things you are feeling. You need to let somone know about these feelings so they can begin to help you with how best to deal with them.

B

Phil_321

Sounds like a Linkin Park song:D.
Write a chorus and you could be onto a winner.

Doodee

Originally posted by Falkorre
I agree,.. different people with different problems react and communicate in different ways, and to judge somone who vents a problem, maybe in the only way they can, as being a drunk teen or an idiot is disgusting. :mad:
*This being the PI forum*,

Somhow, i dont see how what he/she has said can be taken as a joke.

I also am not convinced this is a spoof, and after reading this, would much prefere to err on the side of caution.


B [/B]

This being the PI forum it is also a host to alot of trolls and jokes.

Its in my opinien that if there were indeed an issue here it would have been made more precise, and not look like something scribbled in perminent marker in the cubicles in fibbers.

*i like my reflection in the sharp surfaces of knives*

That line suggests only 2 things to me.
Either this person is part psycho and could possibly revolutionise the internet by creating a Monitor that allows people to be stabbed in teh face (Tm - Merc Tilt)

or else that it is a joke/spoof/idiot who thinks that itsworth a chuckle to write it.

Either way i dont think going to a doctor is going to help him, only the people who have to put up with him.

mechanima

I'm not sure what to make of the initial post, it may indicate genuine distress, even partial psychosis, it may be a spoof.

To me, "Bled" may be indicating an intention to self-harm, which often has an underlying attention seeking factor, even when there is very real injury involved.

I am quite sure what to make of some of the mockery in response.

I have a question for those mockers alone:

Do you regularly think it is good craic to mock someone who is in serious distress?

If you don't, why take a chance on doing that now?

If you don't like, or feel suspicious of a post, you can always ignore it and go find something you DO like.

Bled, if you are genuine, this is NOT a good place to seek the help you need.

G

Boston

Originally posted by Doodee
This being the PI forum it is also a host to alot of trolls and jokes.

Its in my opinien that if there were indeed an issue here it would have been made more precise, and not look like something scribbled in perminent marker in the cubicles in fibbers.

*i like my reflection in the sharp surfaces of knives*

That line suggests only 2 things to me.
Either this person is part psycho and could possibly revolutionise the internet by creating a Monitor that allows people to be stabbed in teh face (Tm - Merc Tilt)

or else that it is a joke/spoof/idiot who thinks that itsworth a chuckle to write it.

Either way i dont think going to a doctor is going to help him, only the people who have to put up with him.

Fair enough, you thought it was a joke and you didn't reply. But the Fact is that gordon there had enough doubt about it to allow it to appear here in the first place. The people here mocking and and slagging off the guy are second guessinggordons ability to moderate this forum and taking the law into their own hands. Its like a game around here, spot the troll with everyone become jaded and cynical about a poster if his or her message doesn't fit nicely in a box. If this is how all unreg posters are to be treated, then the ability to post unreg should be done away with.

Doodee

Fair enough boston.

But take a look at how it is structured.
Its more of a poem than a post to me.

Then again, each to their own.

The Corinthian

What follows is deduction rather than mockery, so both Boston and mechanima are welcome to keep their opinions to themselves.

Were this individual, as has been implied, a sociopath then he or she would most likely have been a little less melodramatic. Colourful terminology such as discussing playing with the charred filth that would remain from a nuclear explosion and the reflection in the sharp surfaces of knives is, as someone else pointed out, more indicative of someone talent in creative writing than their tendency towards sociopathic behaviour.

Such melodrama is generally limited to those who would feel guilt or remorse, not to a sociopath - who would at most feel that something was amiss only at a very superficial and intellectual level, but would not feel it, as it were.

Additionally, were this individual a sociopath then his parents would not “no longer have worth” as they would never have had worth in the first place. Sociopaths are so, in part, because they never develop empathy - they don’t start off with it and lose it along the way.

So if I were to guess, I would have to say that this individual is either looking for attention, trolling or most likely a bit of both. And given the time of the post, just home from the pub too. Assuming that the poster was not trolling, then they should consider why they are feeling frustrated enough to seek attention in this manner, and examine how they may deal with this root cause.

Mercury_Tilt

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mechanima

What follows is deduction rather than mockery, so both Boston and mechanima are welcome to keep their opinions to themselves.

In yer dreams...

Were this individual, as has been implied, a sociopath then he or she would most likely have been a little less melodramatic. Colourful terminology such as discussing playing with the charred filth that would remain from a nuclear explosion and the reflection in the sharp surfaces of knives is, as someone else pointed out, more indicative of someone talent in creative writing than their tendency towards sociopathic behaviour.

I have personally known 2 dx'ed psychopaths (sociopath is an interchangeable term, Hare prefers psychopath and so do it) who were INCREDIBLY talented in creative writing, of the passionate and emotive kind...Yukio Mishima and Tchaikovsky showed many traits indicative of psychopathy too

Psychopaths are extraordinarily emotionally manipulative people, and what is creative writing if not constructive emotional manipilation?

You don't have to be a psychopath to be a creative writer, but it probably does help.

Such melodrama is generally limited to those who would feel guilt or remorse, not to a sociopath - who would at most feel that something was amiss only at a very superficial and intellectual level, but would not feel it, as it were.

Psychopaths don't feel contrained by the reality of what they feel...in other words they lie a lot, and usually have sufficient Narcissistic traits to have a BAD HABIT on melodrama.

ANYTHING could be said by a psychopath, if it suited their agenda. There are few, if any, circumstances under which a psychopath would feel the need to share their real feelings, not least because they tend to believe everybody is like them...and who, in their right mind, is going to share their innermost feelings with what they percieve as a planet of stone psychos?

Additionally, were this individual a sociopath then his parents would not “no longer have worth” as they would never have had worth in the first place. Sociopaths are so, in part, because they never develop empathy - they don’t start off with it and lose it along the way.

Psychopaths (Sociopaths) are hardly EVER that self aware...they do not have empathy, but they don't REALISE they don't have it, so they construct complex internal narratives to fill the gaps and deflate the cognitive dissonance they impose. It is common for psychopaths to substitute projection for empathy and really believe it is the same thing.

"Worth" is not an entirelly "empathy related" concept. Psychopaths are also extremelly utiltarian, thus OF COURSE a parent once had what a Psychopath would call "worth", when they were materially dependent upon them as a child. Which would generally diminish with adulthood.

However I do not think the poster is a psychopath, because they would have nothing to gain by such a post and psychopaths are very utiltarian.

If anything, if the post is genuine it would be fairly typical of someone with Borderline PD and a tendency to self harm.

It seems simple to me...

If the poster is trolling it is best to ignore him/her...if the poster is genuine it is best not to mock him/her.

Supposing the poster is genuine, and you have mocked them? Then you find out that they went on to harm either themselves or others in a serious way, because the Police traced the post from their computer...

You think it couldn't happen?

Look out the saga of Larry Froistad and the Moderation Management mailing list some time.

G

Gordon

So what have we learned from this thread and this showing of opinions? Either:
The poster is a troll. If the poster is a troll then maybe some subsequent posts have belittled him enough to not bother posting again and keeping up the pretence.

Or
The poster is as serious as they think they are and have been given a total constructive criticism amounting to *Go see a counsellor*.

However, if genuine or not I agree with the suggestion of the creative writing forum for an output to 'bled's creative mind. Times of sadness and trollness are the best times to write a poem or a song.

I would like to keep this thread open to hear back from the original poster no matter what shape or form they take. I don't want to hear any personal insults again or I'm going to give out bannings without warning.

I don't want this thread turning into a discussion of what is or is not a sociopath/psychopath.

So - stick to the f*cking topic and don't bother letting everyone know that you think this poster is a troll and give some ADVICE.

mechanima

Gordon,

I am going to be very honest here and say that I don't think there IS any advice anyone can GIVE based on just what was posted.

It's not enough, and what there is, is too cryptic.

The only genuine advice I can think of is that if "Bled" is genuine this is THE worst possible place for he/she to cry out...too many people are ready and waiting to be too cruel on these boards...not everyone, but even one piece of cruelty thrown at genuine desperation is WAY TOO MUCH.

If Bled is genuine, then he/she needs to find a person they can trust NOT to be cruel, but rather to sit and help them get a perspective on what is happening.

Unless you already have a counsellor you wouldn't be able to just call one as an emergency...the best place to start is with a friend, or family member, and if that isn't relevant, don't rule out the Parish Priest...

That last may sound weird, particularly coming from a committed atheist, but it is part of the job for a PP be available for your desperation, so you wouldn't be imposing, and some PPs are very worldly, wise and caring men indeed...with CONNECTIONS that might get you the help you need a little faster.

They can be a great place to start...

G

GuanYin

Join a fundamentalist islamic movement.

You can take out all of your frustrations while being revered amond your peers.

If you choose a progressive group you may even get access to that nuclear bomb you are craving.

As for the women, well at the end of your time in the movement you get doted on my a haren of virgins.

Its win, win, win if you ask me!