How advanced are the asguard ?

bizmark

Compared to the federation or the empire (boo)

I mean look at their ships they appear to be over 2,000 meters long VERY fast able to cross whole galaxies in mere minutes powerful weapons and shield’s transporters has the ability to enter an earth like planets atmosphere etc

The planet we seen where the o Neil class ship was being built was also very impressive huge buildings orbital ship yards and loads of smaller ships flying around

Id say in a war the federation would be wiped out as would the empire

User45701

I agree,

however there have been many questions about would the federation beat the empire?
The Answer is yes.
Why? The Star Wars ships use Lasers and misiles and in star trek lasers and missiles are very primtive.

The question is are asgaurd weapons more powerfull then the federations?

We know that a standers goa`uld mother ships primary weapon can create a explosion = to that of 200 mega tun nucular weapons.

Anubis advanced then by a certan amount (i cant remember how many times anubis advanced them) but if you recal when he did they took the asgaurd by suprise and 2 of his ships defeated one asguard ship.

so if we can work out the rough strgenth of anubis weapons we can work out roughly the strgenth of Asguard weapons.

Then we can work out if federation phasers and torps can damage asguard ships

bizmark

Originally posted by User45701
We know that a standers goa`uld mother ships primary weapon can create a explosion = to that of 200 mega tun nucular weapons.

Er we seen an orbital attack on the tolan home world the best the mothership could do was blow up a large building with a direct hit while people standing mere meters away where fine and not even knocked to the ground.....Hardly 200 mega ton level explosions.Same with Anubis attack on earth when the prommie was climbing to engage many many of the big planet destroyers weapons where missing the prommie now that many 200 mega ton events smacking earth’s ice cap wouldn’t be good for the planet i think.

The death gliders only cause concussion and thermal damage they bearly have any explosive power as do hand staff weapons i think the same is true for the motherships

Asguard ships seem to use some advanced beam/transporter weapon to attack they apparently just makes the target disappear

User45701

Season 1
3rd last episode.

Carter estimates the gou`auld weopanry to be = to that of 200 megatun nucular wepons. I am certan of it.

mr_angry

The premise of Goa'uld orbital attacks has always been to instill fear in the population and to make them worsip the Goa'uld in question as a God, rather than to do enormous destruction.

We've also heard stories of Baal wiping out 60 billion populations because he was losing a battle to keep the solar system in question. I'd assume that when they really want to kill each other, the Goa'uld possess some pretty devastating firepower.

If I'm not mistaken, Ra mentions in the film that the naquita he added to the nuke brought through by the Colnel will enhance its power by 1000 times. Also, when Anubis dropped the Eye of Ra into his uber-weapon, he did some pretty impressive destruction. Well, he took out the entire planet.

bizmark

We've also heard stories of Baal wiping out 60 billion populations because he was losing a battle to keep the solar system in question

Could have been a bio weapon or even destroying the star not large scale orbital bombing.

If I'm not mistaken, Ra mentions in the film that the naquita he added to the nuke brought through by the Colnel will enhance its power by 1000 times.

Ya earth did the same thing during Sg1 and tested it on some planet apparently it destroyed the surface of the planet because of a chain reaction with the Naquita

Also, when Anubis dropped the Eye of Ra into his uber-weapon, he did some pretty impressive destruction. Well, he took out the entire planet.

Ya but he had to build a Huge new ship which you would think was built using ancient technology so its probably not a good show of true go'aul mothership power or technology

McClane

Oh no ... u just had to go there didn't you.

This is a q that should never be asked. Ever.

But ...

Empire v Federation v Go'auld

The Empire would obviously be the losers if it was just starship v starship.

The Federation would most certainly beat the Go'auld taking into account the amount of mumbo jumbo hey can do compared to the Go'auld. The Fed's are more comparable to the Asgard then the Go'auld.

But put Jedi/Sith into the equation.

What happens now ?

Pepe LeFrits

In the Tolan case, they would have wanted to take the Tolan weapons intact. Logically, they wouldn't use nuclear-equivalent weapons.

Capt'n Midnight

Originally posted by McClane
Oh no ... u just had to go there didn't you.

This is a q that should never be asked. Ever.

But ...

Empire v Federation v Go'auld

I reckon the Vorlons would win if they wern't worried about wiping them out.

bizmark

Originally posted by kaids
In the Tolan case, they would have wanted to take the Tolan weapons intact. Logically, they wouldn't use nuclear-equivalent weapons.

Second ep of seasion 7 a fleet of motherships attacked the planet destroying ship while flying over a city ..A few gun shots missed the planet destroyer and hit the city but did very little damage.

I guess the goaul fleet was trying not to destroy the city but its not very like them and they where attacking a sheilded ship.

But put Jedi/Sith into the equation.

You have a few religous fanatics runing around with swords ....Im sure the fed/asguard could deal with them tbh....Remember in that first film with the annoying guy "Messa a ****ing retard" they said the force works because of some crap in the body of all liveing things in their galaxy/univirse..Well thats not true in the stargate star trek univirse so their mind control crap wouldnt work on starfleet or Sg1.

User45701

who are the single most advanced race ever to appear on Sci-Fi?
You cant say beings like Q because there are bioligcally advanced not technolagy advanced

We want the most advanced race in tech terms, would species 8472 be a biolagcally advanced race?

Asgaurd are a good bet, i wonde if borg could assimalte them.
Replicators are also very advanced, more so then the asguard.

bizmark

The vorlon from Bab 5 or any of the other "first ones" seem very advanced S 8472 are very advanced as well they would be the most advanced race in the star trek world tbh.Not sure where the asguard would come they dont use bio ships their weapions dont appear to be that impressive but their ships are very very fast...Meh i dont know id say it would be .....Asguard Vorlon (first ones) and S 8472 first

dictatorcat

well in enterprise ( there was nothing else on tv at the time) the Xindi have a planet destroying weapon which could defeat the asguard! However unlike in stargate the federation seems to forget about these advanced weapons they come accross :rolleyes:

Capt'n Midnight

Originally posted by dictatorcat
the Xindi have a planet destroying weapon which could defeat the asguard!

Vorlons had them too..

User45701

ye sg1 is good i wonder when they will finely use that massive bomb that can destroy up a whole planet if it has naquada mines on it.

watsrealwatsnot

the most advanced races even in Stargate would have to be the Asgard or the Knocks. The Ancients are prob the most advanced but they never really appeared in the show except for when Daniel asended.

Kevok

http://www.spacebattles.com

The forums on that site play out these scenarios daily, with fancy physics calculations too.

All we have to go on is visual evidence. We have very little when you discuss the asgaurd, and their weapons seem derived from their transporter technology (see Thor's Chariot; Season 2).

In B5 the shadow battlecrab was capable of burning through the crust to the mantle (Coming of Shadows; Season 2) which would take massive firepower.

In DS9 a mixed fleet of Romulan and Cardassian ships, of Approx 40 ships were apparently able to completely destroy the crust of the founders homeworld. (The shadows death cloud thing fired thousands of missiles at the surface of a planet to get the same effect.) So going by that kind of evidence it would seem that the Star Trek universe has the more powerful weaponry but it's very subjective.

joshcork

I'd say the most advanced race I've seen were the future borg that were seen on voyager. the one guy on his own went into a shere and blu it up and survived albet not for long but come on

joshcork

That is one cool site by the way

senordingdong

Originally posted by bizmark

The planet we seen where the o Neil class ship

O'Neil class ship?.....i missed this, which episode was it?

Pepe LeFrits

Small Victories.

senordingdong

Originally posted by kaids
Small Victories.

Cheers, now what series was that in?

User45701

1st episode in season 4 or 5 im not too sure but ill guess 4.

You know all u had to do was google it.
http://www.kellys27.freeserve.co.uk/Episodes/toppage.html
Thats my faverate sg1 fansite.