Important debate for SG form + Anubis poll

User45701

SG1 season 8 and SG Athlantis will air in America before it airs here.

Q.Will we allow discussion of new episodes on this fourm?
(it would be sort of condoning illigal file sharing and boards.ie is oposed to that...)

bizmark

as long as you dont link to download files and put spoilers tags in all posts about eps not yet aired i dont see why not

mr_angry

I'm pretty damn sure Anubis is toast. Although, having said that, I thought Apophis was dead several times, and he kept getting resurrected. The fact that Ancient weapons are so much more advanced than anything before leads me to believe that they wouldn't leave any kind of body behind. I suppose, if he wasn't dependant on his corporial form, his essence could live on in some fashion, but we've seen no evidence for that.

Anyway, Anubis' advantage had been wittled away during the course of the last 2 series. When he first came on the scene, he had technology the likes of which had never been seen. SG-1 learned about it very quickly, and found ways to counter it every time. For example:

- His mind interface thing was countered by Thor (not strictly SG-1, but countered anyway)
- His device for destroying a Stargate using another Stargate was destroyed by SG-1
- His ship containing the Eye of Ra was blown up by SG-1 (Damn that ship was cool!)
- A miniscule stash of Ancient weapons took whatever he had left

I don't see that the "Dark Lord" had really anything left to worry anybody. Still, I'm sure the writers have something up their sleeves for next season. I'm just disappointed that the last season didn't end with everybody in the SGC throwing their paperwork into the air - they did it when Apophis was defeated, and when SG1 were miraculously rescued a couple of times. It seemed like tradition...

Ivan

There is supposed to be a new bug like/hive mind baddies for atlantis?

I assume SG-1 will be some how connected to that as well...


/me shrugs.

Kevok

Argh Spoilers ^.

If Stargate brought Anubis back they'd be accused of rehashing old gimicks. Let the villain die I say.

Will the 8th season of SG1 and the first season of Atlantis be tied much I wonder? It would be interesting to have two different shows give two different viewpoints on similar stories.

The_Goose

Originally posted by Kevok
Argh Spoilers ^.

If Stargate brought Anubis back they'd be accused of rehashing old gimicks. Let the villain die I say.

Will the 8th season of SG1 and the first season of Atlantis be tied much I wonder? It would be interesting to have two different shows give two different viewpoints on similar stories.

Atlantis???????

User45701

Athlantis is a new SG spinoff seris.

Anubis is part accended so he should be able to surive anything, mind you last time he was defeated it took him almost a thousand years to build back up his forces.

They didnt counter his mind probe BTW.

bizmark

atlantis and sg1 cant really be linked seeming they both take place in different galaxys

mr_angry

Atlantis is in a different galaxy?? I know people had been saying otherwise, but I'd assumed that O'Neill popping up a map of Earth and saying "Terra Atlantis" had indicated somewhat that Atlantis was in some way tied to, or based on Earth. Maybe I mis-read that one.

The mind-probe, btw, was countered somewhat by Thor.

Peace

THIS IS JUST MY OPINION AND THEREFORE I'M NOT USING A SPOILER:

I would say they will go the route of picking off the rest of the system lords and freeing the jaffa. It would be a huge hole in the storyline of all 8 series of the jaffa were left under the service of Eue and a couple of others. Also...it would be a nice warm feel to it if the technologicaly inferior earthlings freed the entire galaxy of its evil opressors in the space of 10years...

Atlantis will be in a new galaxy and therefore a new enemy to fight. I think the only way they will be linked will be that they discovery how to send people to another galaxy. Since thats only been done once or twice (and they never figured out how jack did it in the first place) then its high on the agenda of things to get done...just after
Kill the gould
Free the galaxy
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Sort Jack out of that ice block

I wonder will the Asgard sort out the replicators themselves or will SG1 have to open a can of inerior minded whop-ass on them?

User45701

How can they pick off the other system lords?

The point off the anciant weapons is to defend earth is is just a SMALL outpost that can defend the planet all that does is protects earth 4ever.

The gouald are still a threat off world.
Thor didnt counter Anbuis mind probe in any way.
It defeated him and downloaded his mind into the gould computer it was thor who defeated the gould computer.

The mind device is still very powerfull

Peace

Originally posted by User45701
How can they pick off the other system lords?

They've been doing it for the past 7 years....

Originally posted by User45701
The point off the anciant weapons is to defend earth is is just a SMALL outpost that can defend the planet all that does is protects earth 4ever.

The only person who knew how to use that weapon was jack and hes not saying much at the moment, so they'll have to figure something else out. But i don't think anyone is going to try an assault after Annubis & fleet were wiped out in orbit over earth.... so for the moent they should be ok.

As for finding the lost city, well we'll just have to wait and see, but they'll probably manage it towards the end.

Also if they found the lost city surely the weapons there could help wipe out the replicators?

Washout

Originally posted by Peace


I wonder will the Asgard sort out the replicators themselves or will SG1 have to open a can of inerior minded whop-ass on them?

Correct me if i am wrong but hadnt the asgard got the upper hand on the replicators.

bizmark

Originally posted by Washout
Correct me if i am wrong but hadnt the asgard got the upper hand on the replicators.

aye they have them traped in some time slow down planet jobby for a couple of hundered year's

Atlantis is in a different galaxy

Aye

Altantis itself is on earth BUT the stargate there sends the altantis team to a different galaxy with a whole new galaxy spanning stargate network and enemys

Peace

If the asgard have the replcators sown up then why the hell are they unavailable to help out with the annubis dealio...earth being protected and all?

bizmark

Well as with all large scale wars they have a way of ruining your fleet/planets/people + they have that whole race dieing off thing to worry about

Maybe they just cant help in one more large scale war have to rebuild and all that

Washout

Originally posted by bizmark
Well as with all large scale wars they have a way of ruining your fleet/planets/people + they have that whole race dieing off thing to worry about

Maybe they just cant help in one more large scale war have to rebuild and all that

I think the asgard have developed enough faith in earthlings beliving that earth is capable of defending itself.

plus also what bismark says

The_Bullman

Originally posted by Peace
If the asgard have the replcators sown up then why the hell are they unavailable to help out with the annubis dealio...earth being protected and all?

that treaty was between the system lords, earth, and the asguard.

as far as I remember anubis busted the crap out of the system lords so basically it nulified the treaty. Plus he called the asguards bluff in regard to them having superiour weapons and technology

User45701

The asguard dont have even one planet
They have a huge fleet thats all, They lost every single planet in the war with the replicators.
It will take them some time to re-build.

Yes with then destruction of anubis fleet no other gouald will even think about haveing a go at earth

mr_angry

I assume Baal is now the only system lord with any kind of power. They never really finished off the story of Lord Yu succumbing to old-age, but the combined fleets of the System Lords had been put under the control of Baal in the meantime, although Anubis spent much of the last year on the offensive against them, so they're likely to be comparitively weak.

I can't see them picking off the rest of the system lords though - the battle against the Goa'uld has always been one of subversion and atricion. Earth doesn't have the means to operate a large-scale offensive against them.

By the way, what happened to the psuedo-Goa'uld footsoldiers that Anubis was breeding? Are they gone now, will they be assimilated into the other system lords' forces, or will they be roaming around the galaxy?

Peace

Chances are they were on the ship with annubis.... now orbital debris.

User45701

I doubt he had them all. Some would be left on the planet where they where made.
There must stil be allot of anubis men around on different planets.

Baal is probbley the most powerfull system lord. If he takes over anubis former terrirory then he will become the first suppreme system lord since Ra over 2000 years ago.

Draupnir

I cant see any Goauld messing with SG-1 now, seeing as how we have these mad bio weapons to basically destroy anything that moves, even if Jack cant work them anymore, I think just the threat is enough

mr_angry

I think SG-1 now have to face up to some of the responsibility of the Asguard now - keeping this newfound technology out of the hands of unruly races like the Goa'uld. If the plot follows some kind of logic, we might see the roles of the Goa'uld and Earth reversed, to some degree. i.e. the System Lords sending people to subvert / spy on the workings of the SGC, and find the key to the ancient weapons. Could be interesting, although that is complete guesswork, so I'm assuming I will be totally wrong.

User45701

I wouldent be suprised if the exculvated the whole area around where they found the weapon and the stargate.

ixoy

I agree with you, User. It'd be insane of them not to perform a mass excavation at the site. Naturally, this would give key roles for the team: Daniel Jackson would be of obvious use, given his archaelogical knowledge. Sam would be involved in working out how to employ the technologies, and Teal'c could lend his knowledge of Goa'uld legends. Additionally, they would be in close proximity to Frozen Jack and wouldn't have to deal too much with the SGC, which will be probably be the home of the 'Atlantis' cast for the first couple of episodes (particularly with the absence of Hammond).

User45701

Ive always thought that either SG1 or the Athlantis team would go off world with hammond to work on the off world base.

muffen

Originally posted by User45701
Ive always thought that either SG1 or the Athlantis team would go off world with hammond to work on the off world base.

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EDIT: Apperantly the space above, the message in bold and the lighter colour of the text below was not enough for user45701 and ixoy to understand that the text contains spoilers, so I added spoilertags.

The atlantis team will be civilians, and the SG-1 people will only appear a few times (they will by no means be regular).

They will find a new stargate with a diffirent colour (I think it was green, the current one is blue).
This stargate travels between galaxies, as opposed to just planets. Furthermore, they will find a ship that exactly fits through the stargate, and was made to travel through it.

In many places, the stargate won't be stationaty. Instead, it will be in orbit around the planet, so ships can go through it easily.

The new enemy they will find live on the lifeforce of other beeing. They are the ones believed to have finally defeated the ancients (although some of the ancient figured out the whole "acending" thing, so they weren't completly wiped out).

bizmark

it sounds great really

User45701

Use a spoler tag!

[spoiler@] type spoiler here [/spoiler@] except type it without the @ and then it will be hidden like so

type spoiler here

bizmark

You know in all fairness THIS

ATLANTIS MEGA-SPOILER, STOP NOW IF YOU DON'T WANT TO KNOW!

Kinda gives it away

muffen

Originally posted by User45701
Use a spoler tag!

[spoiler@] type spoiler here [/spoiler@] except type it without the @ and then it will be hidden like so

type spoiler here

I dont see how there is even a remote chance that you will read the text in a really light colour, but miss the text above written in bold in a darker colour.

Yes, it could have been hidden, I could have made the spoiler warning in bold, I could have written the post in a textfile and attached it etc etc etc etc... but I think I was clear enough the way I did it.

Are you seriously saying you missed the warning and read the post by mistake??

User45701

i didnt read it but its still better to spoiler tag it.

ixoy

Gotta agree with User again - spoiler tags are the common way to treat spoiler information on boards. That's why they're inbuilt! If ever we get our moderator powers, I'm sure that'll go into a charter, just as it would elsewhere for any material that is not yet available to a reasonable audience in Ireland.

muffen

For your benefit, Sir, I added spoilertags...

spoiler tags are the common way to treat spoiler information on boards. That's why they're inbuilt!

No, they are the common way BECAUSE they are built in.
Just because everyone does it a certain way does not mean you have to. I was clear about the fact that it was a spoiler and I didn't ruin anything for anyone (unless they were so thick they read the post and missed the warning).

ever we get our moderator powers... bla bla bla...

.. but we don't have a mod, and I don't understand what difference it would have made (except that people might stop complaining about stupid things like spoilertags). If I had done something wrong I'd understand people being upset, but right now you are asking me to follow rules that don't exist, even after I didn't spoil anything for anyone...

just as it would elsewhere for any material that is not yet available to a reasonable audience in Ireland.

It's common to be CLEAR ABOUT THE FACT THAT IT'S A SPOILER (do you not see how the text in bold stands out when the rest is in a lighter colour??).

I was clear, I didn't use the tags because I don't like having to highlight stuff to read it, and I don't know if everyone knows thats how to read it. I still made sure I was clear so that people wouldn't read it even by mistake. Guess that wasn't enough for some people!

Well, you have your spoilertags now...

I just quit smoking about a week ago, and stopped using nicotin inhalers yesterday, so pretty much everything annoys me like hell right now, so please, lets start the spoiler-tag argument... I'm more than ready.

User45701

Thanx for the spoiler tags.

Why the

ever we get our moderator powers... bla bla bla...

Why blah blah blah?

All we asked for was spoiler taghs what is so bad about that?

muffen

All we asked for was spoiler taghs what is so bad about that?

You didn't ask for them, you told me to use them and then continued on telling me how to use them.

This is your post:

Originally posted by User45701
Use a spoler tag!

[spoiler@] type spoiler here [/spoiler@] except type it without the @ and then it will be hidden like so

type spoiler here

Had you asked atleast a little nicely, I probably would have changed it without saying anything.

The blah blah blah wasn't from your post or aimed at you in any way....

ixoy

Originally posted by muffen
Just because everyone does it a certain way does not mean you have to. I was clear about the fact that it was a spoiler and I didn't ruin anything for anyone (unless they were so thick they read the post and missed the warning).

I've spent a long time on newsgroups before this and have become aware of proper netiquette. On newsgroups, discussing TV programs, there are hard and fast conventions dictating how to approach spoilers, including the minimum use of spoiler space. You do not - in such cases - decide to make up your own rules. For example, in your case, there was very little lines between the spoiler warning and the body text. Anyone, with a high resolution, would easily have paged down and seen both on screen at the same time. I happen to be able to often absorb a lot of the information onscreen, so could actually have been spoilt despite the warning. Hence the 25-30 line rule used.

I just quit smoking about a week ago, and stopped using nicotin inhalers yesterday, so pretty much everything annoys me like hell right now, so please, lets start the spoiler-tag argument... I'm more than ready.

Well that's my response. I'm readily going to admit that I can be very anal about spoilering! I think spoiler tags are the best way to avoid information escaping into the hands of those who would rather remain blind.

muffen

Decided to remove the post cause I just cant be arsed anymore.

The spoilertags are there... case closed!

The_Bullman

Originally posted by muffen
Decided to remove the post cause I just cant be arsed anymore.

The spoilertags are there... case closed!

well thank god for that

sceptre

Originally posted by muffen
EDIT: Apperantly the space above, the message in bold and the lighter colour of the text below was not enough for user45701 and ixoy to understand that the text contains spoilers, so I added spoilertags.
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It's rather difficult to continue reading the rest of the thread in the absence of spoiler tags if you're the type of person who doesn't want to read the spoilers.


any chance of continuing about the original topic or something near to it? Wouldn't that be more fun?

muffen

It's rather difficult to continue reading the rest of the thread in the absence of spoiler tags if you're the type of person who doesn't want to read the spoilers.

... ummm... did I not put them there like 2 days ago?

User45701

Well now we have an answer to our question that we asked some time ago.

muffen

User45701 wrote:

Well now we have an answer to our question that we asked some time ago.

Just saw Atlantis this weekend, I was impressed with how right I was

Atlantis looks really good... might even become better than the original SG1, it definately has the potential.

Draupnir

What do ya mean how right you were?

ANyone who read the spoilers on other sites would have been able to provide the info you did back then.

Still off the smokes?

User45701

As far as i know there was no spoilers on 22-03-2004

muffen

Draupnir wrote:

What do ya mean how right you were?

ANyone who read the spoilers on other sites would have been able to provide the info you did back then.

Still off the smokes?

When I posted, the info wasn't up on any other site that I had seen.
I got it from a post on slashdot, which is why I was impressed that it was so accurate.

Thanks for the input though, very informative and helpful... now, regardless of well.. everything.. why did you feel it was necessary to post something like: "Still off the smokes?"
It's pretty obvious to me that comments like that can only lead in one direction... towards yet-another-internet-forum-argument. Haven't you had enough of those (I know I have)?

ixoy

muffen wrote:

why did you feel it was necessary to post something like: "Still off the smokes?"
It's pretty obvious to me that comments like that can only lead in one direction... towards yet-another-internet-forum-argument. Haven't you had enough of those (I know I have)?

And I'd agree, so you may as well both know: don't think about it. No time for petty insults and arguments, clear?

Xcom2

Not wanting to annoy anyone but for me spoiler tag's are of no use.

At the moment I have up to season 6 on dvd and am waiting for 7,I have seen none of 7,8 or Atlantis.

I enjoy reading your post's about episode's I have never seen it just make's me all the more eager to see them. My knowing this will not stop me enjoying the episode.

Global.

mrhappy42

Same here, will still see the episodes...if you have a link, story etc. then will read it.