Couldnt believe this

Kell

I was talking to a mate who just got back from Paris the other night. Himself and his girlfriend went out to a one star Michelin Restaraunt (Guibaulds equivalent) had the usual starter, main, dessrt, drinks and six bottles of wine (he's a bit of a knowledgable bod when it comes to wine and doesnt drink crap).

Anyway, the point to this exercise, is that the meal listed above in the Michelin star restaraunt came to €75 a head. If I were to walk into Guibaulds tomorrow and have something similar it would set me back about €150 per head.

And the government says we are not being ripped off.

K-

kiffer

Originally posted by Kell
had the usual ...drinks and six bottles of wine (he's a bit of a knowledgable bod when it comes to wine and doesnt drink crap).
...
And the government says we are not being ripped off.

um yes the tax on the 6 bottles of wine would be a lot more here than in france ... what was the cost of the meal not counting the C2H5OH do you know?

is 3 bottles each not a bit much?

TwoShedsJackson

Is he sure they didn't actually charge him €750 - I'd sign anything after three bottles of wine

egan007

Originally posted by Kell
I was talking to a mate who just got back from Paris the other night. Himself and his girlfriend went out to a one star Michelin Restaraunt (Guibaulds equivalent) had the usual starter, main, dessrt, drinks and six bottles of wine (he's a bit of a knowledgable bod when it comes to wine and doesnt drink crap).

Anyway, the point to this exercise, is that the meal listed above in the Michelin star restaraunt came to €75 a head. If I were to walk into Guibaulds tomorrow and have something similar it would set me back about €150 per head.

And the government says we are not being ripped off.

K-

Why pay it then - it was your own free will - ther prices were outside on a menu
This is exactly the point - Rip off Ireland is only rip off ireland as long as we the consumers keep it there

Kell

No I think rip off ireland is rip of ireland because we have no chouice other than to be ripped off.

Take any good restaraunt from Malin to Mizzen head. Take an aperatíf x2 say two gin and tonics and your at about €8.

Take two starters, which in a good restaurant will cost around €7.50 = €15

Main course as above = €17.50 to €22.50 so lets average the two off and say €36.00 for the two main courses.

Take a bottle of average to good wine and add on €28 - €45 so mid range puts us at about €35 for the vino (nothing spectacular).

Add in dessert at about €4.50 x 2 = €9

Add in two coffees at about €2.95 each = €5.90

Add in two digestífs (brandy, baileys whatever) 2x €4 = €8

Now all this neatly brings us up to over a tonne, yet you will pay the same price EVERYWHERE you go for decent to upper end of the scale food.

Now how can I choose not to be ripped off egan007 when I am being charged the same fare for the same food in every fúcking restaraunt? And dont patronise me and tell me to adopt cheaper tastes, why the fúck should I?

My point again is that in a country not noted for amazing cuisine, we are exponentially more expensive than said restaraunt in Paris who are noted for haute cuisine and haute prices.

Note- no six bottles of wine isnt excessive when you are drinking to appreciate rather than just get legless.

K-

egan007

i don't believe you have to go to an expensive place to get nice food -
" And dont patronise me and tell me to adopt cheaper tastes, why the fúck should I? "

i know plenty of nice places in dublin at about 35-45 euro

El_MUERkO

I know plenty of nice places in Ireland but I went sking in Val d'isere this year which is considered the most expensive resorts in europe but I payed less for meals in 4 different restaurants every one of which cost less than I'd pay for lesser quality food than Ireland.

Kell

Originally posted by El_MUERkO
I know plenty of nice places in Ireland but I went sking in Val d'isere this year which is considered the most expensive resorts in europe but I payed less for meals in 4 different restaurants every one of which cost less than I'd pay for lesser quality food than Ireland.

My point exactly. I have certain tastes, but why should I be ripped off for them here when they are blatantly cheaper than elsewhere in the Eurozone as highlighted by my example and the one above.

K-

Sleepy

I brought the ex to Paris in January of 2003. Went out for an early bird meal in the latin quarter, le cinquieme (which is, to be fair at the lower end of the market for a sit - down meal in Paris). For a starter, main course, desert and glass of wine each the total bill came to €15. Granted this got bumped to around €18.50 when we added a couple of coffees to the bill but ffs, you'd be pushed to get a couple of Big Macs for that in Ireland!!!

sovtek

Originally posted by kiffer
um yes the tax on the 6 bottles of wine would be a lot more here than in france ...

If I hear the tax thing being trotted out for the extortionate price of alcohol again I'm gonna.............well nothing but get frustrated and hit the keys harder.

RainyDay

Originally posted by Kell
Now how can I choose not to be ripped off egan007 when I am being charged the same fare for the same food in every fúcking restaraunt?

As long as you keep paying it, they will keep charging it. I would do the same if I were running a restaurant, i.e. charge the highest price that customers will pay without reducing demand.

Originally posted by Kell
And dont patronise me and tell me to adopt cheaper tastes, why the fúck should I?

Because as long as you keep patronising these restaurants and paying this prices, they are going to keep charging those prices.

How do you set the prices of your products/services in your company or business?

EKRIUQ

Originally posted by Kell


Now how can I choose not to be ripped off egan007 when I am being charged the same fare for the same food in every fúcking restaraunt? And dont patronise me and tell me to adopt cheaper tastes, why the fúck should I?


K-

Tell us how you really feel

sovtek

Originally posted by RainyDay
As long as you keep paying it, they will keep charging it. I would do the same if I were running a restaurant, i.e. charge the highest price that customers will pay without reducing demand.

OK but then you hear the restaraunt and hotel association blame the government for.....what is it again????

Because as long as you keep patronising these restaurants and paying this prices, they are going to keep charging those prices.

Realistically people aren't going to completely stop going to restaraunts. Already they complain about the decrease in business and try to blame it all on the government, whilst never pointing the finger at themselves.
I think the point that's trying to be made by Kell is that for some reason everything is much more expensive here than in the rest of the Eurozone, there must be a reason for it and the government should find out what that is and find reasonable solutions to get closer to that standard.

Kell

Originally posted by sovtek
I think the point that's trying to be made by Kell is that for some reason everything is much more expensive here than in the rest of the Eurozone

Applause for actually reading what I was saying and not telling me that I shouldnt have expensive tastes.

K-

Jaden

I personally hold you responsible for me having to pay over the top prices for good food in Ireland. You keep paying it, without complaint, and they will keep charging you.

Hence, I get charged the same high prices.

There is a problem in Ireland, in that we pay too much to eat out. You expect the Government/Other People/Your Mammy to fix this for you. They won't.

DO something about it. Complain, boycott, choose somewhere else. Be proactive, fight the power. whatever. But don't just moan about it here.

Pataman

Dont forget insurance on the restaurant is much dearer here, twice last years in most cases, also the minimum wage is the highest in europe. All these add up.

captainpat

Good person, Jaden! The Government have nothing to do with this issue. G**bsh**te customers are the problem. We will not get reasonable prices until we educate ourselves about the big-priced places being the Best places.

There are many reasonable eateries around, and they do good business. Usually they have been there for years. (Why??) There are also the high-priced high-quality places where the clientele know the quality and pricing, and are not complaining.

The problem is with the newbie places which open in an area to steal the top price business. Low quality and service, high prices. They are usually short-lived, but generate most of the complaints.

Unfortunately, they get rapidly replaced by equivalents, who repeat the process for a new set of G**bsh**tes who will go to the "new" place. (Maybe even the same G**bsh**tes who went to the previous ones).

I will usually look at the menu/prices displayed outside most mid-range restaurants. If I don't like the setup, I walk on. So, I might agree that a bottle of Dunnes Stores wine for €24.95 is too much, but I might tolerate that for a good main course at a decent price.

I don't expect the Government to intervene to lower the bottle of wine to €19.95, as it probably result in adding €5.00 each to the main courses!