Olympic Style Competition

Renegade_Archer

How about having one of these during the season? Doesnt have to count towards league points or anything, but I personally find head to head competition more amusing than shooting-60-and-see-who-wins kinda competition....

toxof

Good Idea, any chance of this at your IV??

The first 30 arrows could be for getting placings and have the knockout comp in the afternoon.

The top 32 placing go forwards to the knockout stage while those who did not qualify can just shoot another 30 arrows for practice.

Would beginners be in with the advanced archers???

Aryzel

nice idea, but how would you do the team competition, head-head is more suited to individual compeition.
Also changing the format mid way through a season makes it harder to judge the teams scores in the end.

That said, i could be nice to have an extra head-head competition, maybe in Sept/Oct, before all the beginners start. People could have a fun, warmup competition, it would be individuals so it wouldn't matter that there are no beginners.

Also would be a good time to organise the main intervarsity season, it was a bit slow starting off this year.

halenger

Well we've got the Dublin Derby running now...


There'd be no harm in adding another competition to the list. Perhaps one of the non Dublin teams or a Dublin team who's not hosting the Dublin Derby could hold it and it could rotate.

Could be an entirely seperate competition.

It'd work for individual anyhow. You could do it as team too.

Keep collages seperate until the last few rounds.

As in it'd be a DCU vs UL etc etc. Hmm... Feh. Dunno really.


Not particularly apt calling it olympic though. Unless we're gonna shift to 70m for the competition!

MicS

70m? Outdoors could be interesting, but not all students go to shoot outdoors, 'cause intervarsities are indoors only.

But we can do it for individual only competition.

halenger

Yeah I don't think 70m is feasible. I know we can't get outdoor training. They wouldn't let us last time I asked. That was something to do with reseeding the pitches though.

Renegade_Archer

Well the technical term would be "Olympic Round", as it is a head to head knock out style of event... doesnt have to be 70m, we can hold it just the same at 18m

madrab

yeah i like the idea of a shoot off style competition singles and team

if we added a handicap to each archer it would make the singles and even the team style competition work

trig

Team scores could be found by placings, the same way they are in athletics events. Where people get knocked out in the same round, ranking could be done based on score out of 27. That way, it'd be an individual competition with a team element to it. It'd take a bit of organising on the day all the same and handicaps would just make that worse.
It'd be a good thing to do once a year rather then just replacing the current system.

halenger

Definately an addition rather than a replacement.

There's a team competition held in January that has a handicap system. Maybe it'd be worth taking a closer look at that format.

I read it before and seems interesting. Haven't ever gone though cause it's during my exam study weeks. :dunno:

Renegade_Archer

Bollocks to handicaps, there are no handicaps in any other intervarsity competition... in an olympic round comp it would still be the same placings as a conventional comp (more or less.. head to heads have an interesting effect on people...), so I dont see any reason to screw it all up with a handicap system... either its an olympic round or its not....

madrab

Originally posted by Renegade_Archer
Bollocks to handicaps, there are no handicaps in any other intervarsity competition... in an olympic round comp it would still be the same placings as a conventional comp (more or less.. head to heads have an interesting effect on people...), so I dont see any reason to screw it all up with a handicap system... either its an olympic round or its not....

ohhhh, snarky!
i was just suggesting it for a team event i am all in favour of a single elimination event without handicaps

Renegade_Archer

Well how about we change the calculation of the team based scores slightly, in that instead of taking the total of the individual archers scores, we have something akin to league table calculation so that if an NUIG archer (for example) comes 1st in the knockout, NUIG gets ten points, and then if another of their archers manages 4th they get an extra 7 points etc.. works inside my head at least, and doesnt involve tossing around with handicaps....




Otherwise, we could go with a pure olympic round team event, one that involves 3 archers from Team A shooting against 3 archers from Team B and taking the totals... this system can get a bit kooky, someone ask Tony about it or look it up in the FITA rulebook..