people in class giving me a hard time

LegacyUser

Hey im doing a repeat LC course. theres only about 8 or 9 people in my group so i dont get to know that many people. Theres this one fella who i didnt get on with from the start hes arrogant and full of himself, talks back to teachers and overall not a very nice person to talk to. i accept the fact that there will always be people who i dotn get along with.

but in recent weaks one of the other students who i was friendly with became good friends with him. He was aware of the fact that the two of us didnt get along. but since then hes been joining forces with him in giving me a hard time. one other students who he is friendly with has also joined in. i am constantly being made the subject of the joke. whenever he offers everyone a crisp or something like that he intentionally excludes me. Every chance they get they jump down my kneck they take.

Its impossible to avoid them because the group is so small and theres usually a gap in my time table so im usually stuck in the study room with them for at least an hour a day. plus the one or two people who i get along with always talk to them. so its impossible to get away from them. what do ye think i should do. any help is greatly appreciated.

cheers.

smiaras

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hedgetrimmer

It's a really unpleasant situation to be in, but by the sounds of it, your 5 times the perosn that he is, and those "friends" who appear to have fallen in line with him appear to be nothing more than sheep. This stage and this time will pass, and you will shine in life while 10 yrs down the line they'll still be wrapped up in some juvenile joke, unevolved

Lafortezza

Are you reacting in any way to the slagging? Like telling him to shove it, or trying to laugh it off?

Beruthiel

The lads are right there, there is something very sad about people who pick on others, it reflects on them badly, what is in their personality that makes them feel better about themselves because they pick on someone else? Not only that, but it is always done in groups, on a one on one basis you would never get that treatment. Basically they are all cowards who need to group together to feel better about themselves.
The best thing to do is, as the lads said, ignore them, get on with what you have to do to get your LC so you can get on with your life. Use this as a catalyst to do better than any of them in the leaving, you will no doubt anyway, after all, someone who spends their time like this is automatically a loser imo.
If it is upsetting you that your ex ‘friend’ has changed sides, then wait till you can get him alone and ask him something along the lines of “why is it that you have decided to join these bullies, does it help your ego to feel better in some way by picking on another person”
Normally though, these type of people don’t respond to questions like this, they are too busy not using their brains
Neanderthals

Dr Pepper

True.. "Living well is the best revenge" (or something like that). As for you other friends in the class, just be yourself and don't get involved in any bickering or angry outbursts and if they are worth having as friends, they will respect that. It's the way of the sheep... They don't have much honour / respect for themselves but they seem to recognise & seek it out in others.

This thread will probably be flooded with clever revenge tactics and witty/slanderous retort suggestions that will only exaggerate the problem. Most of these people are bitter deep down because they've never actually stood up to any "bully" but love to fantisise about it!!

Auburn

I agree with what the others have said. There's no point in getting angry with them, this will only fuel the fire. Also, telling teachers, etc. is something that only happens in the movies.

Just do your best to ignore them. Laughing at what they say or joking about it, eg. "Wouldn't want a crisp from you anyway" (said in a sarcastic manner) is probably the best way to go about it. Don't let them see that it bothers you because these type of people love to get a reaction. Let them play their childish games. Those who bully others usually have low self confidence or other personal issues, so I would pity them rather than be scared / annoyed by them.

Keep your head up and concentrate on the important thing - your exams

][cEMAN**

I might be reading too much into this, but calling yourself kryptonian and saying that they're joining forces, sounds a bit....OTT? Trying not to go a bit off topic, but do you get the feeling that you should care that this person isn't nice to you? I know some people tend to develop complexes which would be described probably as a hero complex or good guy complex in which they think they can resolve any situation, help everyone out, and that everyone has to be nice to everyone else. Do you feel that this might be the case?

Because otherwise, just ignore the pr*ck and he'll probably go away. That or just one day blatently say to him "do you need to get your jollies being a pr*ck or can't you just get a g/f and release this tension some other way?". Sometimes you have to be straight like that with people who think they're constantly getting 1 up on you by being subtle about things. If the others in your group can't see it then that'll point it straight out. If anyone else in the group has a problem with it, if they're really people you can talk to and are friends with, they'll understand.

po0k

Take a hurl and belt the side of his knee with the narrow edge of the boss.

Problem solved.

donhughberto

I had that problem and i decided to defend myself and gained respect, fighting doesn't work mostly but sometimes it can't hurt to give someone a smack and i did enjoy it!

Gangsta

I'd fuucking beat the punk ass bitch senseless, tell im' to fook off and after a while if he still does it beat the ****e into him. Im dead serious.

Dr. Loon

Originally posted by Dr Pepper

This thread will probably be flooded with clever revenge tactics and witty/slanderous retort suggestions that will only exaggerate the problem. Most of these people are bitter deep down because they've never actually stood up to any "bully" but love to fantisise about it!!

That is the stupidest thing I've read in a while. How can you assume this about anyone? You're describing yourself aren't you?

Beruthiel...

“why is it that you have decided to join these bullies, does it help your ego to feel better in some way by picking on another person”

Saying something like that will probably get him into a worse situation, because you're right. These people are obviously idiots. So speaking like a "grownup" won't help him.

I'd suggest to passively rip the píss out of all of these idiots. In ignoring them, make them feel like fools. Simply roll your eyes at their slags or laugh. Smile at them alot. Tell them how clever they are... but don't get angry with them or aggressively slag back. Keep your head down and work away.... always laughing and happy in the knowledge that you are better than them. Simple.


Gangsta - I'm scared of you. You're really tough aren't you?

Draupnir

All this beat the **** out of him talk is bull****, at the end of the day, thats hardly a decent reaction and will probably get you kicked stupid, Id recommend just laughing along with it, he says something smart or demeaning about you then make it seem like you enjoy the treatment. Par example:

Your man doesnt offer you a crisp and he gives them to everyone else, just tell everyone your allergic to crisps or something thats in crisps, bam, no more crisp joke.
But ya gotta do it out loud so it seems funny.

He slags you off, play along, laugh with it and agree with it, say he calls you a queer or something, just say yeah im soooo gay its unbelievable, Im mad into shagging men. Normally works a treat. Wont make you his best mate but should make life easier.

By the way, I am in no way anti-gay. I was just using an example.

Mighty_Mouse

Um!!!

Some of the advice is crap! Saying that yes you are gay is hardly the way to go!!!!

(sorry to twist words)

If your quick witted enough to slag him stupid then thats your way..... if your not you can end up looking a bit silly and in this situation your best to play it cool.

If you think you could take him then kick his head in. Even if you cant take him put put up a good fight ..........try and take him.!!! And dont be afraid to be a little evil. (horseshoe in the boxing glove!).

Once you stand up to him. It wont be worth his while annoying you. (too much trouble)

Most important here is not to be afraid of this dude in any way. Also you have to concentrate on being extra nice to other people in your class in order to make him look like the bad guy. So share you ciggaretts, notes, penny sweets etc etc and be a very "sound" person.

Remember if you confident in yourself you'll never have trouble. Noone messes with confidence!!

steviem

Why not get in first when you see him starting one of his infantile japes. If he pulls out a pack of crisps, open a pack of your own and it will be a total waste of his time not offering you one.

Oriel

The main thing is, get in there, get your education and get out.
Unless that twat Gangsta (but he's much better that all of us, mind) is being sarcastic, just ignore them.
In my opinion, people like that or either of lower intelligence or of lower commom-sense. So either ignore them completely and they'll be frustrated by that, or just get back at them by using non-offensive intelligent words.

Senor_Fudge

all ya gotta do

bring in the pump click clack boom lather rinse repeat

Ivan

Strangely enough I can relate with both Gangsta & everyone else.

There was a time when I was bullied in class & I felt I could just use physical force on the ringleader of the guy that bullied me. Sure that worked, but the fundamental reason for the bullying remained & as such I was bullied again.

I was bullied during my leaving cert also. I approached my parents & my principal but they basically told me there was nothing they could do. Fact of the matter is, your in your final year. Everyone gets bullied at some point in their life, if they dont they just become bullies.

Move on, accept the fact that people are assholes.

Finish your course, sure, you may not get as good as results as you'd like but the alternative is taking a high powered rifle into your school & making a mess, and I really dont endorse that.

Please, just do your best & get into college. There no one will bully you, hardly anyone will even know you exist. Except for those few people you want to know...

Ivan

Speaking as a person with plenty of experienece with both sides of the arguement, I have to say. Ripping the piss out of someone who is bullying you is the best way to go, forget this ignoring shíte & forget this report crap, it will only come back around to bite you in the ass.

Becoming a bully, not in the literal sense, but in a more tame (and just sense) is all you can do.

Good luck & have fun with the leaving cert.

po0k

Originally posted by Ivan
the alternative is taking a high powered rifle into your school & making a mess, and I really dont endorse that.

I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss the idea.
I feel we need a little more "thinning the herd" days in Ireland.
There are plenty of little pups running around in schools who should really be out in the fields picking stones out of the earth for the farmers.

Also, Dr. Loons advice is the best I've seen.

Course, you could just casually spray a can of mace in his eyes next time he takes the piss or whatever.
Verbal/mental assault and non-lethal defence. The authorities can't do much to you.

Gangsta

Ok Maybe I took it a little over the top (I'd probly do some a little less harsh) but if it doesnt suit u, try to ignore it, maybe even tell a superior (Class Master/Principal) or u can just try to stay as far away from them as possible (opposite sides of the class, away from them at lunch etc.) What do all of u think?

Originally posted by Sinecure
twat Gangsta

1. Namecalling is a form of bullying
2. Don't do it again
3. Il forgive u this time:p

Hobbes

Sticks and stones as it were.

Seriously, just ****ing let them go slagging. If make a direct slagging then just agree with them, will piss them off.

eg.
"Your stupid"
"Yea so, whats your point?"
"Your stupid"
"Ok we have established that"
"Ha ha your stupid".

Usual kind of ****. I wouldn't get worked up about it unless you actually care about what they think.