moral hight ground, or take them to the cleaners?

tHe_DaGs_BaGs

i was recently sacked on the spot from my job for something very minor that is widespread thoughout the company (large corporation) and i have the opportunity to report these activities and get the people responsible (and the company) for my sacking into some very hot water.

so my question is, should i just accept my fate and bow out gracefully, or report the company to the authorities, for what is quite frankly a majorly illegal activity for a large company to be doing. on a personal level it's really something minor, but for the company to be doing it on such a large scale is a very big thing which will get them very big fines.

i suppose the 3rd option is to attempt to get some cash out of them in return for my silence. it's going to cost them a small fortune to rid themselves of their illegal doings, or to pay the fine if they are caught with their pants down, but I come very cheap (money that i should have been earning for the next month, which they aren't going to pay me for).

what do you think?

Lafortezza

What did you do to get yourself fired?
What are they doing that will get them in such hot water?

uberwolf

this sounds remarakbly like a tale being played out in teh file sharing forum. I say screw 'em. but be sure you have evidence before you get involved.

Kali

let me guess: software piracy? shop them in.

][cEMAN**

Doubt anything would happen in terms of the piracy. Besides for all you know they might have a co-orperate account or a deal going which might look like piracy but for all you know it's 100% legal. Means then that not only would you still be out of that job but you could be pulled for attempted blackmail, and least that would happen would be that word would probably spread that you try to f*** over your employers, making it very difficult to get another job.

As already said - i'd find out more about it before doing anything. Besides - the way things are at the moment they'd probably just get a causion.

K2

If you believe they are breaking the law, report it, then forget about it. Plenty more jobs out there, just don't get caught again.:)

SheroN

Try and get as much as you can out of them, but don't get bitter and let it consume you.

tHe_DaGs_BaGs

Originally posted by Kali
let me guess: software piracy? shop them in.

that would be it. saw what they had on their servers and that they were using unregistered shareware, and un-licenced software (no corp. licences for a lot of it either).

i have a list of 6 individual pieces of software that they are using illegally in one form or the other, including storing crackz with the downloads on a fileserver!

all i did was download a couple of bits and bobs almost all legal stuff btw, aside from a couple of items that are well outside my price range and so otherwise unattainable, for my own use.

still not sure what i'm going to do, but i know i have more than enough on them for them to be well enough outside the law to be in some pretty deep sh1t.

just can't decide if i should do anything or not, cos i actually like one or 2 people there although i didn't speak tpo them since, and they would most likely get in trouble along with everyone else, as one of them is a pretty senior manager.

decisions decisions.

Victor

Look, don't go the blackmail route, it only invites trouble.

Try writing to your manager, say that it's endemic in the company you are sorry and could you have your job back.

If he says no, then report the company to that software protection agency the manufacturers have and hope for a reward. Make sure you get a written reference before this though.

Nuttzz

Originally posted by Victor
Look, don't go the blackmail route, it only invites trouble.

Try writing to your manager, say that it's endemic in the company you are sorry and could you have your job back.

If he says no, then report the company to that software protection agency the manufacturers have and hope for a reward. Make sure you get a written reference before this though.

if you dont shop them someone else will and you will lose your job anyway, plenty of companies pay their dues, if this company cant they dont deserve to be in business

visit http://global.bsa.org/ireland/report/ and claim you €10,000 reward

Catsmokinpot

report them!

and everytime you walk by the company.... go in side and laugh in their faces then... roll them up in a carpet and throw em off a bridge MWU HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!!!!

dont try and blackmail them theirs less satisfaction in that

Lex Luthor

my wife got sacked last year 2 days before she was due to go on maternity leave when she was 8 months pregnant. Claimed she was grossly incompetent.
We have decided to take them to the unfair dismissal tribunal. It was a joke. She had been with them 5 yrs....new manager comes in...clash of personalities and decided to move her for one of his own twats. Tribunal due in next few months. She felt she was hard done by so we feel it is our right to get justice. Our solicitor is expensive but we have a great case. Fingers crossed.

MisterAnarchy

I wish you the best of luck in your case.
Their are alot of sick people out there.

ToxicPaddy

Originally posted by Lex Luthor
....new manager comes in...clash of personalities and decided to move her for one of his own twats...

I know someone this happened to..

A new manager came into an IT company with guns blazing and determined to make
his mark.. He was a good friend and a current senior manager there are also worked
with him in a previous company.

Apparently, this guy had a serious chip on his shoulder about anyone whos family
were working class, as in didnt have a few quid to throw around or where the
guys didnt have a college education so he started sacking them.. no other reason
except for the fact that he "didnt want their type working in his company"

So after about 6 months he had sacked about 8 guys, the first few did nothing..
But from what Ive heard there are about 3 outstanding cases of unfair dismissal
with this company

2 others were already dealt with, with each guy walking away with a nice few quid
in his back pocket...

But the worst thing is, that assh*le of a manager is still there.. :rolleyes:

Lex Luthor

One of the snr managers also stupidly mentioned in a board meeting in front of my wife that the next person they employ should be a male due to all the women going out on maternity leave.
That's like signing your own P45.
So we think we have a case also for the equality tribunal.
We're gonna bombard these idiots with so many libel actions they'll sh!t themselves.

Does anybody have any ideas as to payments made in/out of tribunals on unfair dismissals? Are the pre-tax payments or is the responsibility to the company paying to deduct the tax?

ToxicPaddy

The amount awarded is based on a number of factors including the number of years
with the company, annual salary etc.. on top of everything else, you also need to be
able to prove what they allegedly said. Just bacause your wife heard it, doesnt mean
that they will admit to it. And you will be hard pushed to get someone else who was
there to admit it if they still work for that company

With the company my mate used to work for, it was easy enuff as there were a line
of people willing to stand in as witness who had left the company due to this
manager..

Best of luck with it anyway.

Tox

Lex Luthor

Shouldn't be a problem..the general manager who no longer works there was at that meeting and was as shocked as anyone when it was said...so we have a good solid witness.

We have more than enough witnesses and statements.

We have been told that it more than likely will get settled 'on the steps' so when negotiations are taking place, do you consider that you should pay the tax on the settlement or will it be deducted before hand? Question is: Is it taxable?

ToxicPaddy

Originally posted by Lex Luthor
Question is: Is it taxable?

Honestly I dont know, but your solicitor maybe able to help you on this.

Victor seems to be fairly upto date on anything to do with Tax and employment laws
and stuff, might be worth dropping him a line to see what he has to say.

Tox

Victor

Compensation awards for injuries are not taxable, but I get the impression you only come out with what you would get after tax anyway.

I don't know about unfair dismissals claims, but I imagine a similar situation would arise. The usual limit, I believe is the equivalent of two years salary, although it would usually be less than that, but I have heard of one case where four years salary was awarded (out of thousands of cases).

I wouldn't go worrying about the tax. Don't even depend on the award for anything. Solve the situation first.