uk digi box

piet

Hi, my daughter is moving back from the uk, she has a sky box and uk subscription there, will be cancelled 1 month prior to her leaving, after the sub is cancelled will she still receive the ftv channels itv/c4/tv5? Also I heard her tv will not work here for a different frequency is being used in Ireland, does this only apply to the rte's via aerial, or does it apply to the sky digi box? So the intention is to get a sky sub here, let them rig up dish and new digi boxand have the second box as ftv box. Will this work? Thanks Piet.

byte

Yes, the box should work over here.

As for her TV, it quite probably doesn't have a VHF tuner (UHF only). Some RTE Transmitters transmit RTE1 and N2 in VHF so the TV won't pick them up (though still possible to watch via an Irish VCR). The Sky box on the other hand will work OK, regardless if the TV is bought in Ireland or UK as it outputs UHF.

If you were getting a subsidised box and subscription, there may be implications as this offer is only available to households without a dish and digibox, though obviously, to get around that, dont' set up the FTV box until the subbed box is installed! For the FTV box to work as well as the Subbed box, you'll need a quad LNB for the dish (or else 2 seperate dishes, bit unsightly).

Hope this is of help.

watty

The UK TV nowadays will work almost anywhere, long ago in 1983 when I came here from the Dark north I had to add a Labgear VHF/UHF convertor.

There are a few spots that don't get good UHF RTE1/NET2, but TV3 and TG4 is only on UHF, and with a good roof aerial, evn RTE1 & NET UHF should be everywhere.

There is no difference at all between UK and Irish Digibox. It is only the signal to viewing card that is different. A UK sub will also work here. Even the cancelled UK sub will continue to receive ITV/C4 /Five. Don't tell them *WHY* you are cancelling or they will kill the card.

An Irish viewing card does not get ITV. C4, Five and hides most of the BBC to let it be manual via "other channels"


The VHF signals are inferior quality (according to RTE) to the UHF ones anyhow.

Genghis

This thread has sprung a question in my mind. I know that at one stage a cancelled Sky card was effectively a FTV card in that the five terrestrials plus others contiuned to be viewable after you cancelled the Sky subscription but left the card in. With the BBC FTA and no longer paying Sky for anything, am I right in assuming that

a) BBC1 and BBC2 disappear from 101 and 102 when a UK subscriber cancels
b) that the other terrestrials remain oin 103-105 and
c) that the BBCs are still available, though only via other channels?

ShaneOC

Originally posted by Genghis
This thread has sprung a question in my mind. I know that at one stage a cancelled Sky card was effectively a FTV card in that the five terrestrials plus others contiuned to be viewable after you cancelled the Sky subscription but left the card in. With the BBC FTA and no longer paying Sky for anything, am I right in assuming that

a) BBC1 and BBC2 disappear from 101 and 102 when a UK subscriber cancels
b) that the other terrestrials remain oin 103-105 and
c) that the BBCs are still available, though only via other channels?

The BBC are paying Sky for EPG placement. They are not paying them for encryption. When a UK subscriber cancels there is no change on the EPG - all that happens is that the suscription channels will no longer be viewable.

Originally posted by LurkingIcon

There are a few spots that don't get good UHF RTE1/NET2,

That would be wicklow, wexford and other parts of the south East and realistically zero uhf RTÉ.
Much of Cork and Kerry also, unless you are served by a local very low power relay.

Here in Wicklow with a 60ft mast and twin group B's I can get RTE and N2 on U
UHF if the aerial is pointed to cairn Hill , it's very weak tho and is almost obliterated by presely wales.
Three Rock comes in quite weakly also with the correct aerial.
Both aren't an option.

So vhf only here really.

byte

It's VHF only here too in South Donegal from Truskmore. Two UHF channels were allocated for the RTE's (53 and 56 I think) but have never been used. It's just VHF and will remain VHF for the forseeable future, according to a RTE Techie I know.

John R

Don't forget analogue cable which is all VHF.

lawhec

Originally posted by byte
It's VHF only here too in South Donegal from Truskmore. Two UHF channels were allocated for the RTE's (53 and 56 I think) but have never been used. It's just VHF and will remain VHF for the forseeable future, according to a RTE Techie I know.

They were 53 and 57 Byte! There were plans to use these for viewers in Northern Ireland, but this plan has been quietly dropped. Shame really as it would help make a lot of monster VHF Band III 10-12 element aerials about here redundant.

byte

Ah, I stand corrected. Wasn't sure if the second frequency was C56 or C57.

I can't see any reason why they cannot have the RTE's broadcast on both UHF and VHF?

I know that some Transmitters use Truskmore off-air signals and VHF travels over distance better than UHF (especially in Donegal what with all the hills etc) not to mention Tx's that use Truskmore offair as backup source in case digital link fails (Truskmore has two digital feeds and an off air feed, so if one digital link fails, it switches to the other, if that fails, it switches to offair feed making the likelyhood of Truskmore loosing a feed practically zero!).

Rossie

Byte,

I take it that if South Donegal is VHF, then Sligo probably is too??

Have an awful feeling that me recently purchased 32" flatscreen is going to look like an awful waste of money when I move over there.

Any neat and cheap converters that I can use to receive VHF on a UK telly? Is there any chance that my telly could receive both?

MrPudding

Why doesn't she just keep her uk SKY sub and pay by cc?

On the tv's working here question, I moved down here 3 years ago and had to buy a converter. Waste of money actually. I prefer the UK channels. What you are used to I suppose.

MrP

Rossie

Mr Pudding,

Was the converter expensive?

ShaneOC

Originally posted by Rossie
Is there any chance that my telly could receive both?

Yes there is. It depends on the make and model of the TV. As has been stated though the UK channels will work fine as will TV3 and TG4. RTÉ 1 and Network 2 may work, they may not. You really need to check with someone in the area to see if they are UHF or VHF. If you get Sky, it will work perfectly with your TV as it also uses UHF (if you are silly enough not to use a scart lead ).