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ntl cable on front of house

  • 11-02-2004 9:57pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,686 ✭✭✭


    I reckon there are a few here who like me have recently left ntl to go to free to air satellite...

    My estate is about 20 years old, ntl (ie cablelink) strung the cables along the front of the houses all the way up the street in a daisy-chain fashion, and it's really ugly. I put up with it before because I had to.

    The cable is tacked to the fascia boards. Now, I'm getting new soffits/fascias soon, and what I'd like to know is: am I in a position to ask ntl to remove their cables completely from my property as I'm not a customer? Has anyone else done this, or is there a provision somewhere in legislation for ntl to run cables across the front of peoples houses without their consent?


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,313 ✭✭✭bus77


    Selfish ****er , what about your neighbours up the road?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,686 ✭✭✭JHMEG


    I had thought about my neighbours already...

    I didn't say I was going to request ntl to remove it. All I want to know is am I entitled to have them remove it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,962 ✭✭✭Greenman


    Maybe better posted on the cable forum. :):):)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,726 ✭✭✭✭DMC


    Moved.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,804 ✭✭✭GerardKeating


    Originally posted by JHMEG
    All I want to know is am I entitled to have them remove it.

    Nope, when you (or a previous owner sometimes) gave permission to install cable for yourself, you also gave them permission to run the cable past for the later houses.

    You also give them permission to enter your garden to repair/upgrade the cable and this "right" is forever. This "right" remains even if the house is sold.


    Of course it has never been tested in court.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 45 THE_INSTALLER


    As a previous employee for ntl, i can definitley tell you that you have full permission.
    When you had your cable installed some year's ago, the installer would of had you sign, what would seem as some sort of receipt, but in fact it is actually another contract combined into it. What you would have signed gives any ntl installer to enter your property without prior permission at any time. This benefit's them greatly when carrying out 'disconnect's' if the customer is not at home.
    The receipt also carrie's a binding that you allow them to 'string' their cable's accross your house until your contract has terminated. It does not stay with the house.
    But there alway's will be the problems with the neighbour's...trust me, it does not go down well, and ntl or chorus will always advise you of this;)


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,467 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    You also give them permission to enter your garden to repair/upgrade the cable and this "right" is forever. This "right" remains even if the house is sold.

    I disagree.

    I was with Chorus and when I bought my house the previous owner had the Chorus disconnected so I have to pay for it to be reconnected.
    When I did pay I had to sign a contract that included the lines to cover the eventuality of me having Chorus disconnected, it basically said I give Chorus permission to contonue to use my property to run the cable across.

    I lined out and initialed these clauses beofore signing the contract. Contract was accepted.

    When I got Chorus disconnected last year ( no need to ask why ) I enquired about the removal of cables and was told they have the right to use my house as per my initial contract. I disagreed and asked for them to prove their case. They couldn't.
    They then offered to come to my house remove all the cabeling and re-route under the footpaths. This would have cost them big time. In the end I decided that for resale value I would leave the cables there for possible future owners of the house.

    Bottom line, if you are not a customer and have not signed a contract you can get the cable removed and it will not effect your neighbours viewing capability.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,417 ✭✭✭✭watty


    Nail in cable is not fun..

    Called into a computer network went dead.

    Eventually I was reduced to checking every inch of the coax between two workstations that had a dead short.


    Eventually we noticed a new door frame had been fitted. Just 3 nails "gunned" into wall. One went exactly through the center of the coax between the wall and frame. Duh!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,686 ✭✭✭JHMEG


    Thanks for the info lads... pretty much as I expected it.

    There is a small (looks like a 4-way) distribution box on my facia that would need to be removed in the event of PVC facias going up...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,338 ✭✭✭aphex™


    NO it wont have to be removed. I have PVC facias too, and the box is still there and everything looks GRAND. the wires fo behind the PVC and the box is probably right between you and your neighbours house?

    The facia installers would know what to do. They get this every day of the week. They'll make it look OK.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,686 ✭✭✭JHMEG


    Nope, the distro box is right outside my bedroom window! ie a good 4 or 5 feet from my neighbour's house.


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