Dublin fans...

wheelbarrow

..what a bloody disgrace....couldn`t even fill Parnell Park, and only got 50,000 at the Armagh game last year `cos they allowed the kids in free...

Before the Derry game last year ( up in Clones ) i asked one of the Great Dublin fans if he was going...his reply was "No, why should we have to travel up there..."

If any other County could play most of their games at home, then they`d fill their stadiums as well. We`ll see how many of these "Great Dublin Fans" turn up for the away games...

I asked another "Great Dublin Fan" if he was going to the All-Ireland Minor Final up in Cavan a couple of years ago....his reply was "Sure its only the Minors and sure its not in Dublin."

Don`t get me wrong Dublin have some great, loyal fans, they`re called Jim and Kevin....

Johnny_the_fox

i think most fans are the same.. its not a problem in Dublin only.

the prices of match tickets it doesnt help the matter either.

p.s who would want to see dublin anyway? sure they never win anything

cournioni

I disagree, when Cavan were in the U-21 final in Thurles (which is a fair distance from Cavan) a few years back, we filled most of the stadium and the other fans were there for the hurling final after it between Galway and someone else.

As far as I know Cavan and other teams like Armagh and Tyrone always bring a great support with them no matter where they are playing. And like Dublin, Derry never seem to bring much of a support with them either and I think you'll agree with me on that JTF.

Johnny_the_fox

Originally posted by PORNAPSTER
As far as I know Cavan and other teams like Armagh and Tyrone always bring a great support with them no matter where they are playing. And like Dublin, Derry never seem to bring much of a support with them either and I think you'll agree with me on that JTF.

yep. Derry has had a very poor following - especially in the last 8 years. It doesnt help playing the matches in poor stadium in Derry City, when most of the supporters are in south derry. :dunno:

Yavvy

wheelbarrow im trying to decide if I should ban you from GAA. Im thinking I should bu I will give you 24 hours to see more of your posting style.

I will leave your post cause its semi interesting but I get the impression your a dub bashing troll...if you are.. you can take it somewhere else , ya here ?

As for Dublin and its fans who are you to judge them ?
Who are you to decide how many people they should and shouldn't have at GAA matches ?
Please state all the factors you have considered when labelling Dublin supporters as a disgrace.
Please explain exactly why you have insulted two Dublin fans when they are not available to argue back.
Exactly how many were at Parnell park today ?
Exactly how much money does Dublin generate for the GAA ?


Look I know you cant even begin to put a semi decent argument together so toddle off to hill16.ie or some other forum and abuse the dubs there ( cause I wont have it here.)

Alan.

kaimera

here here...

no bashing or trolling of other counties here on this board. :rolleyes:

get off yer horse Alany...christ knows you've bashed a few counties in your time here.

as for the topic...it's not just dublin as aready stated that has a poor following.

The north are now the real fanatics when it comes to supporting GAA

Yavvy

Ill get down of my horse..when the snakes are gone.


My probblem with Wheelbarrow is the general attack on Dublin fans..I have read too many dub trolls not to spot this one.

I can accept Dublins support is an interesting issue ... but having some flamer call them a disgrace gets right up my nose.

no bashing or trolling of other counties here on this board. [/QUOTE
Yeah, But infairness our county bashing is generally a bit of supporter banter...no really it is.... I cant think of one time when someone posted to call an entire counties supporters a disgrace ..and he wasnt even having a bit of banter with anyone. It seemed like an attempt to flame to me.

I mean if this guy has a problem with counties support levels what didnt he start with Kerry first ?

PS LAois played super today.


Any who, staying up on the horse for now...resting hand on my colt magnum, now yall get along ..ya here.

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Yavvy

I think one of the major problems with GAA support ( for me anyway) is that I find it difficult to travle all the way to Mayo to watch a game that amounts to Pre championship training and conditioning.

Seriously, I would love to win the Leauge ( as Jonny pointed out we dont win much) but at the end of the day.. the leaught is just training...it means fùck all. So away supporty is difficult. Hell even home support if difficult and for those of us that play junior level football our games are on at the same time.

When the championship... the real compitition starts I am prepared to follow Dublin anywhere ( I do wish they would travle some times) but the leauge isnt really a compitition to get bums on seats.

wheelbarrow

Are these Boards not a place to express views. I would think that the adult way of dealing with things would be to use counter arguements to prove me wrong, not Ban me from expressing my views...

I will now express my views to those questions that you asked in an Adult manner, i will not pick up my ball and run away...


Who are you to decide how many people they should and shouldn't have at GAA matches ?

I am a GAA Fan. In my post i did not mention how many fans Dublin should or should not have at matches. I expressed my views on their Support

Please state all the factors you have considered when labelling Dublin supporters as a disgrace.

These factors where expressed in my first post. Actually the proper Dublin supporters are fine. I have been to games where they have been funny, sporting and witty. Some of them were a bunch of edjits, but all counties have these type of fans.

Please explain exactly why you have insulted two Dublin fans when they are not available to argue back.

How did i insult them. Did i call them names, i simply spoke of conversations which i had with them.

Exactly how many were at Parnell park today ?

I haven`t a clue, perhaps someone who was there can give a guess. All i know is that from what i saw of the match ( had it taped ) there were several wide open spaces.

Exactly how much money does Dublin generate for the GAA ?[

This question is not relavent to the topic being discussed.

As for Dublin and its fans who are you to judge them ?[/

I am a GAA Fan. I am not slagging off the fans who go to those games, just those who like the warm summer days in Croke Park

I hope that i have addressed all the questions. As i stated already Dublin have some proper fans, but they also have a lot of hangers on. If you are one of these proper fans ( see above ) and go to the lesser games then to you i apologise. Dublin have too many fans who just go to Croke Park on those warm summer days....

Oh as for Kerry fans, yep they are bad ( but i don`t want to express my views as that doesn`t seem to be allowed - and you might ban me ). The Kerry Support in last years Semi-Final was a total Disgrace, it was terrible, the worst i have ever seen. ( I don`t mean the people who were there, its the ones that weren`t that i mean).

As for banning me, well that is your entitlement. If that is the way you win arguments well, fair play to you. If people are abusive, crude, vile, use bad language, then ban away - if they express views which you don`t like do you ban them as well.......

Yavvy

Are these Boards not a place to express views. I would think that the adult way of dealing with things would be to use counter arguements to prove me wrong, not Ban me from expressing my views...

I wont be banning you. I was just making sure your not some random troll, I have seen a lot of those on various Dublin discussion boards. better to stamp that sort of carry on out quickly.

I am a GAA Fan. In my post i did not mention how many fans Dublin should or should not have at matches. I expressed my views on their Support

Yeah, but what right do you have to call dublins supporters a disgrace, what fantastic county do you support ? I dont think its fair to call Dublins supporters a disgrace. I think it fair to call the National Leauge a joke, I think its fair to say the leauge is a 3 rate compitition ( after county and club championship)

These factors where expressed in my first post. Actually the proper Dublin supporters are fine. I have been to games where they have been funny, sporting and witty. Some of them were a bunch of edjits, but all counties have these type of fans.

Yeah, yeah, all counties have all sorts of different supporters, we all know this. MY origional question was how you came to the conclusion (all the factors) that Dublin supporters were a disgrace ?? it seems to me your whole point is “ havent Dublin got a large amount of fair wether supporters, and a lot of the other supporters don’t seem to travel well”

Thats a long way from being a disgrace I should think

Please explain exactly why you have insulted two Dublin fans when they are not available to argue back.

Now in fairness.... you have tared them as a disgrace with the rest of dublins supporters

Exactly how many were at Parnell park today ?

I wasn’t I have a very valid reason for not being there but I would say there was a good crowd and while it wasnt full by any means dublin and the tryone support created a wonderful atmosphear ( considering the weather)


As for Dublin and its fans who are you to judge them ?[/

I am a GAA Fan. I am not slagging off the fans who go to those games, just those who like the warm summer days in Croke Park

I hope that i have addressed all the questions. As i stated already Dublin have some proper fans, but they also have a lot of hangers on. If you are one of these proper fans ( see above ) and go to the lesser games then to you i apologise. Dublin have too many fans who just go to Croke Park on those warm summer days....

Oh as for Kerry fans, yep they are bad ( but i don`t want to express my views as that doesn`t seem to be allowed - and you might ban me ). The Kerry Support in last years Semi-Final was a total Disgrace, it was terrible, the worst i have ever seen. ( I don`t mean the people who were there, its the ones that weren`t that i mean).

As for banning me, well that is your entitlement. If that is the way you win arguments well, fair play to you. If people are abusive, crude, vile, use bad language, then ban away - if they express views which you don`t like do you ban them as well.......

Firstly, I too consider the Dublin fans that make it to Parnell Park and around Ireland on a Sunday afternoon the TRUE supporters or the core. There is so much more to it than that.
Yes there are the sunshine boys, yes they are the hangers on, and there are the cider drinking scumbags
But there are also those that don’t want to go a watch a Dublin league match in the middle of no where when they can watch a higher level of football in Thomas Davis, St Vincent’s, Lucan or Ballymun.

There is Also those of us that play GAA every Sunday morning and if were not playing were training...that a lot of supporters unavailable (there is no matches on championship days)

Children can’t simply go to watch a game because Parnell Park is in the City.. And in Dublin we don’t let out children cross the city on there own like that (most of us)

What about the price of tickets? Would you continue to pay for what is often sub standard football?



Personally I think your argument needs more work and I think instead of just looking at Dublin, you should look at your own county and the other 30 remaining counties.

wheelbarrow

Sorry i didn`t know this was a "Dublin discussion board"...

Perhaps the media are equally to blame, as they hype up the Dublin fans. But then again as most of the Media is based in the Capital they have their taget audience.

As for Children going to games by themselves, i did not make this suggestion. Unfortunately in this day and age, those days are gone in All Counties....


The price yesterday was € 10. Which wasn`t actually that bad....surpisingly enough for the GAA. There was roughly 7,000 there.

All Counties have their "hangers on". But not all counties have the luxury of playing most of their games at home.....

As for you not being at the game yesterday, well we all have occasions when we can`t make it to games ( like me yesterday - my lift didn`t arrive), thats no bother at all. But those people who turn out ( and manage to get tickets ) for the "big games" and couldn`t be arsed going to the lesser gamse, that who piss me off. All teams appear to have these, but in my opinon Dublin have more......


Perhaps my views are darkened by my Dublin friends. Last year when Dublin lost to Armagh in the League, the Dublin fan said " Ach sure, its only the league we don`t care about that". This morning i got a call saying that Dublin were brilliant and had shown Tyrone what was what. All of a sudden the League is important...

For my part this discussion is over, we both have differing opinions which we are both entitled to. We also both have differing perceptions of things, which we are both entitled to.

Anyway see ya in The Big Tree in September.....


Oh by the way its good so see a GAA Discussion Board, there aren`t enough of them about. Its important for fans of the GAA to openly discuss different aspects of the GAA

Yavvy

your right about a lot of stuff there wheelbarrow and I must aploigise for my rash remarks about you. There is a certain level of paranoia in me when it come to this exact topic...as you will see if you stick around Im not usually so defencive and agressive.

But I dont think this should be the last you have to say on this topic here. I think we would be interested to here more about how it is in your county, what you feel is the problems and how it might be fixed.

I have some strong opinions on this issue myself.

Dublins victory over tyrone yester day doenst mean much in the grander scheam of things. I see it as training and a bloddy good training session it was. It seems to me that very few counties take the leauge fr what it is. Most teams like Dublin, Kerry, Galway, Cork and the rest all keep one eye on the SAM in the Summer.

However an interesting trend I have noticed is teams that have a good leauge run tend to have a great championship run .. a very important factor I think.

anywho...C'mon The Dubs and by the by I drink in Meaghers of Ballybough before the Dubs games ...but if you wanted to buy me a pint I sure I could swing around..im the one in the blue jersey.


Alan.

wheelbarrow

Stole this from another web site;

Was talking to a Dub to-day and he tells me for 110 euro each season he gains free access to all inter county and club games at Parnell Park for the season,plus a guaranteed purchase of a match ticket for every Dublin Championship game including AIF (if the ever get to another one!) Sounds far all the same,and a system that other counties could usefully copy


Is this true......this would make me happier........

Yavvy

dont know but must find out. I get all my parnell tickets for free and a lot of my croke park tickets too.

APM

Its the middle of winter, very windy and the game was on TG4 with commentary on Newstalk 106 for those who can't understand Irish

I'd say thats what kept alot of people away....not to mention the game was all ticket, people would be unwilling to venture down to parnell park without one.

League games at parnell park shouldn't be all ticket, they'll never fill it.

Yavvy

I would agree with that too. it should be possible to pop down to watch the dubs on a spur of the moment.

yop

Have to say it is a fair enough point what Wheelbarrow and Alany I know you do not like anyone bashing your county but since you are the mod I think you have to take the Dublin hat off and look at it from a non Dubs supporter, I am sure if I was in the same position I would have reacted the same!!

Anyway, I do think that the point made applies more to the Dubs than any other county I know. If you take it alright that they filled 50k in against Armagh last year and even though there was still a good turn out on Sunday considering the rain you would expect with the "summer" following that they have they should have filled Parnell park.
If the Dubs are playing anywhere outside the pale, which is rare, then the following seems to be very small. I will be in Castlebar on Sunday so I will be able to give a better judgement. I for one would not make the opposite journey all the way to Dublin for a league match so I cannot see there been a killing amount down, but then again the amount of Dubs that now have holiday homes down here if they all go it will be full!!!!

Anyway from a Mayo supporters side, there are only 2 or 3 guys I know that go to every single league match, I and my da will go to all home matches and all matches within the province unless we go to the Quater Final.

So even though it is more obvious when the Dubs do not turn up due to the media coverage it is definately the same situation with the majority of GAA teams.

And Alany it is not an attack on you or the Dubs, just an opinion. Gluck

Yavvy

Tis true I do suffer from a touch a blue mist...and in fairness I always will. Im a Dubs supporter before im a GAA mod on boards.ie

It only takes me a little while to calm down so its not so bad.

Anyway, I do think that the point made applies more to the Dubs than any other county I know

Kerry

If the Dubs are playing anywhere outside the pale, which is rare, then the following seems to be very small

not for the championship... the Dubs would fill any other stadium in Ireland during the Championship I think.


and as for mayo.... dont bother going on sunday,,, you Will be hammered.

C'mon the Dubs

yop

and as for mayo.... dont bother going on sunday,,, you Will be hammered.

Bring it on u bee utch

Well considering that I was very suprised we beat Fermanagh then god knows what will happen on Sunday.

Will go alright, long time since I missed a home match, even FBD!! Am I sad!! :eek:

Yavvy

Originally posted by yop

Will go alright, long time since I missed a home match, even FBD!! Am I sad!! :eek:

yes, yes you are

cournioni

Originally posted by Alany
not for the championship... the Dubs would fill any other stadium in Ireland during the Championship I think.

They didn't fill Clones last year.

Yavvy

I ment except for Clones....

nono

actually what I ment was..."could " fill any other stadium in Ireland. Infact I was very dissapointed at that turn out myself.... IT seemed very odd to me

yop

Cannot remember but did they play in Thurles and was it filled???

Was suprised at Kerry alright, did not think they were that fickle!

bdiddy

Originally posted by Alany

and as for mayo.... dont bother going on sunday,,, you Will be hammered.

C'mon the Dubs

ahem, ye were run off the pitch.
Mayo 1-10 Dublin 0-3

Yavvy

yesh..yesh.. Hammered by Mayo.... As I have been saying all along the leauge is a thrid rate competition that very few care about ..but there is no excuse. none.

Mayo destroyed the dubs, one step forward and two steps back. God it gets depressinf sometimes.

Well done Mayo

Mighty_Mouse

Dublin are generally the most vocal supporters in the summer when they cant get tickets for the Leinster semi final or something.

I was working in Dublin a few years ago and since then have a prob with the typical Leinster final Dub supporters, They wanted a reduced number of tickets for the minors and everything that year.

They're most vocal about tickets during hte summer and therfore have to take the stick about being crap travelling supporters when the sunshine is not out

Mighty_Mouse

"As I have been saying all along the leauge is a thrid rate competition that very few care about ..but there is no excuse. none"

contradiction there alany!!

However I disagree. I think the League had become an more and more important competition in the last 2-3 years.

Mighty_Mouse

"Was suprised at Kerry alright, did not think they were that fickle!"

omg!!! Have you being living on Mars or somethign!!!! Kerry and THE most fickle supporters.

Talk about the dubs being bad. Kerry supporters only travel for the all-ireland each year and they're very quick to attack both players and boss's when the results dont come

zAbbo

Originally posted by Alany
I ment except for Clones....

The only decent venue guarateed of having a great crowd, be it Any Northern team or Monaghan or Cavan. I remember some great games being played there, always with a good crowd of fans too.

ps. The reasons why the northern teams do so well is because they have loyal fans that are willing to travel. None of this we couldnt travel 2hrs down the road to clones ****e

Yavvy

Originally posted by Mighty_Mouse
"As I have been saying all along the leauge is a thrid rate competition that very few care about ..but there is no excuse. none"

contradiction there alany!!

However I disagree. I think the League had become an more and more important competition in the last 2-3 years.

No its not a contradiction, you see.... not too many people care about that result and it will mean nothing come All Ireland time but its still shocking to loose a game like that...

Mighty_Mouse

its will be some kick in the stones when ye get hammered in both so!:D