365 broadband

rrolfe

check this out :

http://www.365hosting.ie/access_broadband_basic.php

its a bit more expensive to install but theres no cap and its about the same price.

tuxy

the new netsorce.....

eth0_

They will be SWAMPED with applications.
Can see them having a netsource moment for a while at the start!
But this is good news, I was thinking tonight of registering a company (60 euro) just so I can get netsource, but i'll go with these guys if they're good.

Pity about the 12 month contract...and the fact you can't sign up...when you click on sign up it bring you to the sign up page for their basic Unix package.

steve-hosting36

Hi Eth,

The link is good, should bring you to the sign-up for the Broadband - Basic plan.

It is available now.

HTH, Steve

spongebob

Are we taking a commercial interaction Board to celebrate the occasion then ????

M

eth0_

Cheers Steve! Sounds good so far.
Just two questions:

Do you need to be a registered company to obtain this service, i.e are home users welcomed

and

What will you be putting in place to ensure your service doesn't end up emulating the netsource debacle where they were throttling people and ended up capping the service?

dsab

The order link still goes to the Basic Unix Plan.

But one more question. On the web site it says 50 Euro a month, but the linked PDF File states 45 Euro a month... what`s the correct amount ?

Cheers,
Daniel

Emerson

Looks good.. but is it including vat?

Ryaner

Looks good. Prob gonna end up going to netsource once I got the problem with my line sorted because of the shorter contract. The upcoming price changes looks a bit hopefully.
Just rang them there. Price is 50Euro a month (Ex vat). They are fixing that on the site atm.
In regards people who are on dl the service alot, the guy offered to get someone to ring me back in 5-10 minutes as he didnt. Half an hour later? Nothing.
Eircom just rang me and told me my line has refailed the BB test so I now gotta try find the an engineer to tell me why.

Ripwave

Originally posted by dsab
The order link still goes to the Basic Unix Plan.

But one more question. On the web site it says 50 Euro a month, but the linked PDF File states 45 Euro a month... what`s the correct amount ?

At 8AM this morning, the website said €45/month €495/year. It's now saying €50/month €550/year. The PDF file was updated at 11:38 this morning, and also now says €50/month.

It looks like they've put the price up. And there's no mention of VAT anywhere.

eth0_

Originally posted by dsab
The order link still goes to the Basic Unix Plan.

It doesn't. Hit shift and refresh.

Ripwave

Originally posted by eth0_
It doesn't. Hit shift and refresh.

Strangest looking "Broadband" plan I've come across:

You have chosen to subscribe to the Broadband - Basic plan.
The plan includes:
Your own domain transferred from another provider;
Your own virtual mail server including 10 free mailboxes; mail forwarding; mailbox aliases; mailing lists; autoresponders;
Your own virtual web server (name or IP based hosting) including web statistics; CGI; Virtual host alias; FrontPage extensions; MIME Type; various types of logs; SSI; PHP; Custom Error Documents
Setup Fee: €180.00 Monthly Fee: €50.00

Ryaner

Just got the callback from them there. 75Gb a month limit under their usage policy. It sounded like a combined transfer limit but either way that much to high to really get close to.
Now if only I could go order it today.

steve-hosting36

Hi Ripwave,

The price on the basis is 50 euro per month, and it includes email and webhosting. Vat is not included./

raster

Originally posted by eth0_
...I was thinking tonight of registering a company (60 euro) just so I can get netsource...

Would a sole trader suffice?

Originally posted by Ryaner
Just got the callback from them there. 75Gb a month limit under their usage policy. It sounded like a combined transfer limit but either way that much to high to really get close to.
Now if only I could go order it today.

Here is a link to order, but look at the transfer, and price (no yearly?)

http://cp.hosting365.ie/psoft/servlet/psoft.hsphere.CP?action=plan_compare&compare_way=group&template_name=submit/misc/compare_plans.sbm&gr_id=831649

kida

that looks like 5GB to me - where is 75GB mentioned?

steve-hosting36

The 5GB is the quota on the web hosting space.

dlofnep

Indeed, the only transfer allowance I see mentioned is 5gb.

daveyjoe

Originally posted by kida
that looks like 5GB to me - where is 75GB mentioned?

The 5GB refers to the transfer on the webspace, I don't know where it says 75GB though.

eth0_

Originally posted by raster
Would a sole trader suffice?



Here is a link to order, but look at the transfer, and price (no yearly?)

http://cp.hosting365.ie/psoft/servlet/psoft.hsphere.CP?action=plan_compare&compare_way=group&template_name=submit/misc/compare_plans.sbm&gr_id=831649

Hmm. If Steve could post here and let us know what the deal really is with this product it would be great.
On that page it says their home, business AND professional packages have a 5GB limit....WTF?

Quotas
Network traffic
Included 5 GB
Monthly €4.95/GB
Extra €4.95/GB

dlofnep

Information:

Ok, I have just been onto a member of the sales team, here is what went down:


Stephen * : yes, it is
Stephen * : The Basic service is available nationwide
Stephen * : the other services will be from the end of march
john : Excellent
john : What time is your seals department open until?
john : sales*
Stephen * : Sales are available until 5.30pm daily
john : Ok, thank you Stephen, and one more quick question, we were having a debate on boards.ie as to the traffic quota, it states that there is no limit on the main page, but in the traffic section it states that there is a 5 gig allowance. can you clarify this up for us, please?
Stephen * : Absolutely
Stephen * : the 5GB per month limit is on the 25Mb webspace included with the service
Stephen * : there is no cap on the broadband access

Reyman

48:1 contention ratio and effectively no cap is a recipe for problems -- I mean serious customer problems.

All the high volume users and no bandwidth. Stay away from it !

BigEejit

Originally posted by Reyman
48:1 contention ratio and effectively no cap is a recipe for problems -- I mean serious customer problems.

All the high volume users and no bandwidth. Stay away from it !

IIRC people were saying the same thing about Netsource ... and it turned out to be true, but this is cheaper than Netsource and has other goodies as well that make it a much nicer looking deal for a lot of people, not just the heavy downloaders ... I think they may get a more balanced group of customers ... but if they want to keep promises I'd say they should have a daily cap of (for example) 1GB download

OfflerCrocGod

With VAT it's actually €60 - that doesn't include the e-mail and IP and hosting stuff which all costs extra, no cap though.

steve-hosting36

Its €60.50 including VAT, and that includes Email, Webspace, etc, as per the specs.

dlofnep

For an uncapped service, I think it's much more acceptable than the competitors.

raster

Originally posted by steve-hosting36
Its €60.50 including VAT, and that includes Email, Webspace, etc, as per the specs.

Steve,

it says uncapped, but in reality what is the situation with the cap, would 100GB per month be acceptable, 50GB, you must have somehting in mind.

The T&C's only have a stock answer

If your bandwidth reaches the points where it has an adverse affect on other clients we reserve the right to disable your site or throttle your connectivity until you can reduce your bandwidth usage.

Ripwave

Originally posted by raster
it says uncapped, but in reality what is the situation with the cap, would 100GB per month be acceptable, 50GB, you must have somehting in mind.

How clear do you want it - you may use as much of the service as you can without impacting other peoples usage. If everyone else only uses 2 or 3 gig a month, then they won't care if you use 50G. If everyone else uses 7 or 8 gig a month, then you're 50 G will be a problem. As they're not in the fortune telling business, they can't tell you how much will be to much, but if you figure out that downloading 24 hours a day for 30 days comes to about 160G, and that the service is designed to share that 160G with up to 48 other users, you can come to your own conclusions.

Personally, I'd be far more concerned about being liable to pay for excess bandwidth on a website, which I can't control (ever been slashdotted?) than I would be about having to pay for excess bandwidth on a my own connection.

raster

Originally posted by Ripwave
...you can come to your own conclusions.

with vague terms and conditions, and no clarification, that is the only option, roll on nolimts repetition.

Personally, I'd be far more concerned about being liable to pay for excess bandwidth on a website, which I can't control (ever been slashdotted?) than I would be about having to pay for excess bandwidth on a my own connection.

good point

BArra

what if these guys do another netsource or even silvermead fiasco

ie. take on a load of customers ranting on about how uncapped they are, once they take one too many customers they change the t's and c's because of "overuse"

obviously some customers leave, but others will stay on..

just my outlook on it, but by all means if i could get adsl id go with these guys first

Ripwave

Originally posted by BArra
ie. take on a load of customers ranting on about how uncapped they are, once they take one too many customers they change the t's and c's because of "overuse"

Which part of the T&Cs would they have to change? You can use as much of the service as you can as long as you don't inconvenience anyone else. You're all smart people (one would hope), you know how much a pint glass holds, and if you try to drink a whole pint from a glass that's being shared by other people, then don't expect to be left alone.

If you want your own pint all to your self, pay for it.

LFCFan

I take it they are just reselling €ircons RADSL?

valen

Those 5GB limits are on the email/web hosting services provided with the broadband.

I'd have thought a €99/month for your own server, colo and a 100GB quota on a 20mbit line would have gotten more interest. Wierd.

John

MrPinK

Originally posted by tuxx
the new netsorce.....

Ironically the 'new netsource' may be getting their internet access from the old netsource

http://www.365hosting.ie/about_partners.php

They definitely look a better option for hosting, but if you just want to to download huge amounts every month, I think it's a bit early to get your hopes up. Only time will tell though.

dlofnep

I was just speaking to gentleman on the hosting365's tech support chat. From what I've gathered, Hosting365 resells Netsource and any limits that netsource impose of Hosting365, they will have to abide by.

So in theory, should the members of hosting 265 consume excessive bandwidth, then Netsource may place restrictions for which h.365 have to follow.

kida

so in reality - you are not going to have much more than netscapes limit - I wonder will they throttle or disconnect?

tuxy

i emailed them 2 days ago to inquire about there service still no reply, any company that dosnt reply to emil is dodgy in my opnion ;/

daveyjoe

Originally posted by tuxx
i emailed them 2 days ago to inquire about there service still no reply, any company that dosnt reply to emil is dodgy in my opnion ;/

Eircom hasn't responded to any of three emails I sent them in the last month, so you're probably right.

steve-hosting36

Tuxx, drop me a pm with your details, we have no record of unanswered mails.

RicardoSmith

Originally posted by steve-hosting36
Tuxx, drop me a pm with your details, we have no record of unanswered mails.

Like all good soaps I can't wait for the next episode

Jorinn

Originally posted by MrPinK
Ironically the 'new netsource' may be getting their internet access from the old netsource

http://www.365hosting.ie/about_partners.php

They definitely look a better option for hosting, but if you just want to to download huge amounts every month, I think it's a bit early to get your hopes up. Only time will tell though.

Just a point on netsource, I've NEVER had abysmal download rates or even anything close, never had problems getting close to max from good ftp's etc.

The only 2 problems with netsource ar pings from about 22:00-04:00 and the price they're charging me. Still, I'll have bought my hosting and moved finished weeby off my private server in a month or so and intent to dump em then. Oh, and I've never been throttled for going over the cap they allegedly imposed.

Ryaner

Originally posted by Jorinn
Oh, and I've never been throttled for going over the cap they allegedly imposed.

Firsly I'm taking it that your on the SoHo Package? How much do you go over the cap? And when you say max speeds what are you currently getting?

dangerman

im on ns and i'll be pissed if heavy users sign up to this new 365 dealy and reck my perfect (as in as good as IOL in all respects without the cap ) connection.

i hate heavy users on shared lines. 'must download new enterprise episodes' must have all 5 million recorded songs in existance, etc. etc. and dont give me that i'm entitled to use it cause i pay for it crap. get bent.

especially considering i have broadband, but according to eircom my line isn't good enough for it so changing could be a bitch.

Ryaner

My line was good enough and then wasnt. Had to get my aunt to ask an engineer nicely to get it back good enough. The ping on ns are looking very impressive atm.
As for the 365 thing, I'm thinking they've been assigned their own ports as in seperate from ns. Ns did go thru alot to sort out the pings etc I know.
Main thing I wanna know tho is how far above the cap do you have to go before they throttle you and if you do it once of do they throttle you anyway?

Jorinn

Originally posted by Ryaner
Firsly I'm taking it that your on the SoHo Package? How much do you go over the cap? And when you say max speeds what are you currently getting?

Yes, soho package. Download consistantly at 55k+ off ftp.esat.net. Went about 14 gigs over the capone month, but that was exceptional due to backing up some remote files, usually about about 3 or 4 gigs. Maybe there's a bit of leeway involved, it'd be stupid to go down to the meg.

Ryaner

yeah they said they do have some leeway, but 16gb a month is kinda what they say. 55k is pretty alright what pings are you getting atm?

steve-hosting36

We are no longer reselling the netsource service and will have a new offering available as soon as possible, watch this space

Stephen

eth0_

Originally posted by steve-hosting36
We are no longer reselling the netsource service and will have a new offering available as soon as possible, watch this space

Stephen

Sweeet!

po0k

Originally posted by Jorinn
Yes, soho package. Download consistantly at 55k+ off ftp.esat.net. Went about 14 gigs over the capone month, but that was exceptional due to backing up some remote files, usually about about 3 or 4 gigs. Maybe there's a bit of leeway involved, it'd be stupid to go down to the meg.

We were under the cap for Novemeber and December, January we ended up at 22.01GB (6Gigs over the cap) and they cut us down.
Another customer and Boards.ie member was throttled after using 19GB in a month.

Prehaps it's only on exchanges/POPs where there are more than 4 people? (assuming 4 512KBit conenctions on a 2Meg circuit from the exchange, it won't affect anyone else whether they all download at full whack or not)