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Who Should be next in the firing line?!!!

  • 21-01-2004 10:57am
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,461 ✭✭✭


    Me Personally I'll be happy if they rid of either Ernest Miller or Mark Calloway! :)
    I've taken 5 from RAW and 5 from Smackdown, and there's a time limit of 14 days to cast yer votes.

    Let the insults begin!
    Nero

    Who should be next in the firing line?!!! 20 votes

    Undertaker (for carrying around a stale gimmick)
    0% 0 votes
    Ernest Miller (for sucking, full stop)
    5% 1 vote
    Rikishi (to put him out of his misery)
    40% 8 votes
    Scotty 2 Hotty (as he'll never fit in)
    0% 0 votes
    Billy Gunn (because he'll always stink up the ring)
    20% 4 votes
    Test (for the amount of time he's dropped the ball)
    5% 1 vote
    Scott Steiner (for being Scott Steiner)
    5% 1 vote
    Mark Henry (for carrying around a stale gimmick)
    5% 1 vote
    Gail Kim (who's STILL pointless after nearly seven months)
    20% 4 votes
    Silvian Grenier (been on the shelf so long, can anyone remember him?)
    0% 0 votes


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 424 ✭✭a-hole


    i dont think its right to put peoples careers up like this most of these wrestlers are very good and put in the indies would steel the show, you need something special to make it to the wwe and test stiner undertaker gale kim rikisi and to some extent billy gun have that but in wwe its hard to be perfect all the time that leves you looking silly in frount of the other top wrestlers


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 28,128 ✭✭✭✭Mossy Monk


    Mark Henry


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,640 ✭✭✭Gillie


    Can I choose three!!!
    Steiner! Rikishi! Scotty "I take 5 minutes to complete my finisher" 2 Hotty.

    If I was pushed id say scotty 2 hotty.

    All terrible IMHO.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 424 ✭✭a-hole


    goldberg should be up there and who is the last persion


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,640 ✭✭✭Gillie


    Original member of La Resistance (I think you've proved Neros point!):D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,461 ✭✭✭NeroTheExtreme


    Originally posted by a-hole
    i dont think its right to put peoples careers up like this most of these wrestlers are very good and put in the indies would steel the show, you need something special to make it to the wwe and test stiner undertaker gale kim rikisi and to some extent billy gun have that but in wwe its hard to be perfect all the time that leves you looking silly in frount of the other top wrestlers

    *cough* *splutter*
    Billy Gunn has a special talent, it's called BLOWING!
    Nobodys asking anyone to be perfect, but those ten really have been dire as of yet!

    Most people from WWE steal the show in indies, so thats not exactly a basis for comparison. Jake Roberts can steal the show on the indie circuit, although he's out of shape and hasn't done anything credible in years!

    Wait a sec,why am i justifying myself to you?, you defend the likes of Triple H and Billy freakin' Gunn!!!!!

    Nero


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 424 ✭✭a-hole


    no defending needed for hhh if you know your stuff youll know hes the best in the bisness today even with all his injuries


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,461 ✭✭✭NeroTheExtreme


    I like to think i do know my stuff, and show me exactly what he's done to merit his constant push at the top?

    PS: Jobbing to The Ultimate Warrior is NOT enough.
    Come on... tell me, I'm all ears :)

    Nero


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,640 ✭✭✭Gillie


    Originally posted by a-hole
    no defending needed for hhh if you know your stuff youll know hes the best in the bisness today even with all his injuries

    Man are you not sick of seeing his Mount Rushmore looking nose on the TV each week?!?! And Flair having an epileptic fit everyting he's at ringside!!!
    Really pissed of watchin him every week tbh!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,461 ✭✭✭NeroTheExtreme


    I can't understand why he thinks there's something special about BILLY GUNN!!!!
    I bet he thought Duke The Dumpster Drosse was the best ever, and probably creamed himself when he made a return at the gimmick battle royal at Wrestlemania X7!!!

    Only kidding a-hole :)
    Nero

    PS: Billy Gunn? C'mon man!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,030 ✭✭✭smiaras


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 424 ✭✭a-hole


    his caracter change after wm15 gave the wwe a kick ass heavywaight heel one that people loved to hate this hateful ba$tered after getting the rub off foley made the rock the superstar he is by giveing him a real baddy to go agenst then moveing on to bring a midcard olimpic gold medelest all the way to the top in what should have been the best angles of all time but was sabatased somewhere back stage. then moveing on to atempted murder of stone cold, i firmely believe he is and was the only wrestler that could have pulled of that angle. the two man power trip, even just one month before he was trying to kill ctone cold he teams up with him to get the hottest face ever hated it took his personility and knolage of being hateful that got him and stone cold hated then the quad gave and in what should have ended his career he comes back as the companys top face thrown into a butchered angle with angle he manages to steel the show even though he is still working through terable injury. won the title at wm in a grate match but lackluster because jerico couldnt carry the top heel banner(he can now). hogan enters and hhh's top face statas so he dose the company thing and drops the belt to hogan something many wrestlers wouldnt do. ff to sumerslam the death of the serbural assisan, in the angle of the year hhh puts michals head through a window an angle only hhh could have carried, after this match he slams michals in the back with a sledge this would have caused him to be booed out of the bilding but hhh heard chears so he knew he had to change his caracter once more this time to a posh agarant career killing eagomaniack this took a bit of time to adjust to but by wm19 he was agen the companys top heel with nobody likeing him, his under selling ways made him so hateable that whoever beat him be he the worst wrestler, worst worker, and worst persion on the mik youve ever seen would autimacily become the companys top face and thats just what happened, goldberg who perfectaly fits the critirea above is now the top face. just faught to mention he finished the match with a broken trackia and another with a ripped quad now thats a worker


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 424 ✭✭a-hole


    my bad billy realy dose suck


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,030 ✭✭✭smiaras


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,461 ✭✭✭NeroTheExtreme


    Originally posted by a-hole
    his caracter change after wm15 gave the wwe a kick ass heavywaight heel one that people loved to hate this hateful ba$tered after getting the rub off foley made the rock the superstar he is by giveing him a real baddy to go agenst then moveing on to bring a midcard olimpic gold medelest all the way to the top in what should have been the best angles of all time but was sabatased somewhere back stage.

    Even then, nobody had more backstage clout than HHH, and the reason the Angle feud bombed was the fact that Angle wasn't all that great of a face (and still isn't, he's a way more effective heel!), they axed the angle to give Kurt the heel turn.
    then moveing on to atempted murder of stone cold, i firmely believe he is and was the only wrestler that could have pulled of that angle. the two man power trip, even just one month before he was trying to kill ctone cold he teams up with him to get the hottest face ever hated it took his personility and knolage of being hateful that got him and stone cold hated

    Undertaker could have pulled that angle just as easy, I also think Rikishi could have pulled it, he was getting the heel turn anyway. The two man Power Trip angle happened on April 3rd 2001 (one year and four months AFTER the stone cold car incident!) and while it was decent enough, it was far from brilliant because you could have paired Austin with anyone else to have made that work!
    then the quad gave and in what should have ended his career he comes back as the companys top face thrown into a butchered angle with angle he manages to steel the show even though he is still working through terable injury. won the title at wm in a grate match but lackluster because jerico couldnt carry the top heel banner(he can now).

    His comeback prior to the 2002 Rumble was second to none, I will give him props for that. But ya can't blame Jericho for that Wrestlemania match when the crowd had already been exhausted from the Rock/Hogan match minutes beforehand. It was a difficult act to follow. Jericho wasn't given enough of a chance to carry the heel banner (three months?, it took HHH six before he could get into his heel persona!)
    hogan enters and hhh's top face statas so he dose the company thing and drops the belt to hogan something many wrestlers wouldnt do. ff to sumerslam the death of the serbural assisan, in the angle of the year hhh puts michals head through a window an angle only hhh could have carried,

    Only HHH could have carried? Give me a break, that was done before! Rewind to the week before the 92 Rumble, Michaels putting Janetty through the Barber Shop window, Janetty doing ten times the bladejob that Michaels did. As for Angle of the year? Bit of a No Contest when ya had Katie Vick and Reverand D-Von angles as contenders!!
    after this match he slams michals in the back with a sledge this would have caused him to be booed out of the bilding but hhh heard chears so he knew he had to change his caracter once more this time to a posh agarant career killing eagomaniack this took a bit of time to adjust to but by wm19 he was agen the companys top heel with nobody likeing him,

    By that stage, nobody liked him because people were sick of him never dropping the belt, he did it for a month to his mate and that was it. He got the rub a number of times one year after he completely defied the boss and proceeded to break kayfabe. Even still, workers like Michaels and Foley gave him the break, six years on, don't you think it's about time that Mr Levesque returned the favour?
    his under selling ways made him so hateable that whoever beat him be he the worst wrestler, worst worker, and worst persion on the mik youve ever seen would autimacily become the companys top face and thats just what happened, goldberg who perfectaly fits the critirea above is now the top face. just faught to mention he finished the match with a broken trackia and another with a ripped quad now thats a worker

    And instead of taking some proper time off to recover, he takes the belt back and parades it with one defense a month! Instead of dropping it to the likes of Jericho or Michaels who would make decent use of that top slot!

    While we're at it, lets bring up some points you neglected to bring up

    1) Owen Hart tribute. Ever wanna see the definition of Crocodile Tears? Watch that. He mourns the loss of a "friend" but not once did he put him over when the guy was alive. Mourning or guilty conscience?

    2) Angles only HHH could pull off eh? Katie Vick? Crappy wedding angle? Racist bastid angle? The list goes on and on.

    3) You list how well he works even when he's injured? That Armageddon match in 2002 was carried by Michaels! And BOTH of those guys were injured. And last year he had the strap put back on him in the middle of a groin injury, he graced our presence via video thus pissing everyone else off. As much as I hate Goldberg, but he hardly had a chance to enjoy that top spot reign with HHH hogging the spotlight when he was "injured"

    I guess you can get away with any sort of sh|te when you're banging the bosses daughter eh?
    Nero


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,718 ✭✭✭whosurpaddy


    i voted for ernest miller (i still cant believe anyone thought he was what was needed on WWE tv)
    but ideally i like to see the following gone:
    Ernest Miller
    Rikishi
    Test
    Billy Gunn
    Mark Henry
    William Regal (not on the list but what the hell)

    i really like scotty, but he's definitely a raw wrestler rather than smackdown.

    steiner can be a great loose cannon kind of heel, when he's let go nuts on someone.

    Gail Kim really hasnt been booked to do anything except look foolish, hardly her fault, aparently shes a decent worker, which the womens division badly needs

    Grenier same thing, he hasnt really done a lot, but id like to see more from him.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,461 ✭✭✭NeroTheExtreme


    Originally posted by whosurpaddy
    William Regal (not on the list but what the hell)

    i really like scotty, but he's definitely a raw wrestler rather than smackdown.

    steiner can be a great loose cannon kind of heel, when he's let go nuts on someone.

    Gail Kim really hasnt been booked to do anything except look foolish, hardly her fault, aparently shes a decent worker, which the womens division badly needs

    Grenier same thing, he hasnt really done a lot, but id like to see more from him.

    Regal is as good as gone, His health isn't showing any progress or improvement.
    Gail Kim is piss poor in comparison to the likes of Trish or Lita, she knows how to do a rana.... and thats it! The only way she'd look good is to be transferred to Smackdown, and all they have is Torrie Wilson and Sable as there's been no sign of Dawn Marie or Stephanie (thank god!) in a long while.

    Grenier is woeful, Dupree always was much better and was noticed from the minute he hit the ring. I'd like to see him pushed. I'd also like to see Charlie Haas do well this year.

    Nero


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,640 ✭✭✭Gillie


    Dupree was youngest champ ever at 19 wasn't he?
    Even though they didn't have the belts for too long.

    Haas looks the part. He needs to get away from WGTT.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,461 ✭✭✭NeroTheExtreme


    Yup, and Mr Greener ballsed it up on him...
    Nero


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,640 ✭✭✭Gillie


    What the hells wrong with him anyway?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,461 ✭✭✭NeroTheExtreme


    Neck injury, he tried working despite it at the end of the summer and made it worse.
    Nero


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,305 ✭✭✭jobonar


    that Mark Henry fella, i mean he is the WORST wrestler in the WWE!!!

    WTF were they thinking giving him a push!!



    i also think that HHH time at the top needs to end he got too many injuries and they

    really need a fresh champ to livin it up a bit instead of just givin HBK and goldberg a

    title run for like 2 mins and then HHH wins the thing back again!!!!!


    and an added bonus of HHH not at the top would mean less Ric Flair, that man is

    just the worst person EVER with a mic every time with out fail he goes ape sh|t on

    the mic and it all comes out as crap. He wrecks evolutions promos!!



    i agree to that Billy Gunn severally sucks ass, how many sh|t gimmicks has this chap

    had over the last few years, bout 50 or something and none have lasted. its time to

    kick Mr.Ass out on to his ASS!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,267 ✭✭✭Exit


    Voted for Miller, but if I had my way it'd be Bradshaw. Can't stand him!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 496 ✭✭xzodia


    i think the cat should go as hes getting no real pop and hasnt even wrestled yet


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,352 ✭✭✭funky penguin


    Man I used to love coming to read the pro wrestlin threads but everytime i come here nowadays there seems to be a "We hate this or that in the wwe" thread. Bitchin about these things aint gonna help, plus as far as I can see, if anyone voices an opinion its immediately blasted be that nero chap. And theres no point arguing with him cos he never backs down does he? Anyways im not sayin that everything is perfect in the wwe, its just that complaining about it on boards, constantly, does nothing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,030 ✭✭✭smiaras


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,461 ✭✭✭NeroTheExtreme


    Originally posted by xzodia
    i think the cat should go as hes getting no real pop and hasnt even wrestled yet
    He's getting no pop because
    1) he's stealing Rikishi's gimmick
    2) he's well out of shape
    3) BECAUSE he hasn't wrestled yet and he's still wasting air time! Two months of promos is more than enough :P

    Nero


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