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Anyone here speak a foreign language?

  • 11-01-2004 7:24pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 526 ✭✭✭


    If so do you reckon you will look for emp,loyment with that language, have u found languages easy ?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,730 ✭✭✭✭simu


    Fluent French, some German, a little Italian, a tiny bit of Japanese.

    If so do you reckon you will look for emp,loyment with that language

    For any good jobs, you need other skills apart from just knowing another language. Would be handy if I ever wanted to work in France, though.
    have u found languages easy ?

    French was easy - I did an Erasmus year in France so I picked it up easily enough.

    German is a little bit trickier.

    Italian is ok as it's pretty similar to French.

    Japanese is totally different but really cool!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 526 ✭✭✭dendenz


    I am fluent in French as I lved in France for a while but wouldnt mind having a go with Arabic or Russian or something out of the ordinary!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,730 ✭✭✭✭simu


    Go for it! That's what's cool about Japanese - it's so different to European languages that learning it really challenges your perception of what is and is not possible in a language.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 109 ✭✭bla


    yes i speak a foreign language - english


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,730 ✭✭✭✭simu


    Originally posted by bla
    yes i speak a foreign language - english

    Níl sé sin cruinn!

    English is also recognised as an official language of Ireland by the Constitution!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,580 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    I can get by in French and survive in German. You would be amazed who long you can live with very little of the native language. That said if it's an employment requirement you'll be shot down day one. I don't plan on working lontime abroad.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 432 ✭✭ChumpStain


    Me English good speak.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 93,581 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Originally posted by simu
    Níl sé sin cruinn!

    English is also recognised as an official language of Ireland by the Constitution!
    Actually for most of us in the EU English is a foreign language - just like American


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,618 ✭✭✭Civilian_Target


    Originally posted by Capt'n Midnight
    Actually for most of us in the EU English is a foreign language - just like American

    Which means they don't understand GW Bush either!

    And BTW, I speak decent french.


  • Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 21,504 Mod ✭✭✭✭Agent Smith


    i have enough french to get by.....



    (i think)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,267 ✭✭✭Exit


    Yeah, enough French to get by.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,543 ✭✭✭sionnach


    fairly ok with french, i intend on learning spanish over the summer.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 494 ✭✭Lukin Black


    Fluent French & Spanish, basic Italian and Portuguese, very basic German and Finnish.

    Dunno if I'll be getting a job with them. I hate speaking languages over the phone and the only jobs I see with them are teaching or telephone support or sales, and I detest the little brats that seem to make up half of the 'students' at secondary school level.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,366 ✭✭✭luckat


    dendenz, foreign languages will get you a start in eurowork and foreign affairs, but there are a couple of things to consider.

    First, you're going to be working away from Ireland, which is fine for a few years, but you may not want to live abroad forever; some study I read somewhere also said that people do better in their own country - on the basis of whole career lives - than in any foreign country because they have better contacts.

    Second, what language/s you speak is important. French, German, Spanish and Italian are a bit of a drug on the market - though French is necessary for eurowork, Spanish if you want to work in South America.

    At the moment eastern European languages are in demand, because of the need for translation in the new states acceding to the EU.

    But as simu says, you need other skills. Fluency in many languages is not going to get you interesting or well-paid work - it's just a good start. Translation and interpretation are relatively low-level jobs; they won't get you the ambassador's gig by themselves.

    If you want to get good at learning languages, get the Michel Thomas tapes. Thomas was born in Poland, I think; he was picked up while fighting with the Belgian Resistance against the Nazis and put into the concentration camp in Dachau. There he realised that inability to understand each other was a major cause of conflict between people, and he spent his time developing a method for learning any language very fast.

    You can buy CD sets and tapes in a few languages; if you use one of them, it gives you the basic skill to learn any language. I wish he'd done one for Irish. (Ah now, lads, don't start.)

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/search-handle-url/index=books-uk&field-keywords=michel%20thomas&bq=1/ref=sr_aps_all/202-5914312-9078258


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 101 ✭✭SuperStudent


    I speak Arabic, Russian, Chinese & Australian.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,081 ✭✭✭BKtje


    Dutch and German.

    The Germans a bit iffy when it comes to writing but i understand 90% (dutch is quite similar ;) )


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,472 ✭✭✭echomadman


    I can get by in German quite well, after a few days in the country I can pass for a native in terms of accent and syntax, (until my vocabulary runs out)
    also thinking of learning arabic, and maybe a bit of spanish I might give those cds luckat reccomended a go


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 221 ✭✭MrBigglesworth


    I've been living in Germany for the last few months, not actively learning the language yet but fully intend to very soon with maybe linguaphone or something. Know some French.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,524 ✭✭✭✭Gordon


    Currently being force fed Greek. Moved over to Greece recently and am not fluent so my bosses are forcing me to speak Greek with everyone in the office.

    I learned French for 7 years in school and couldn't string a sentence together, came to Greece and after a year of living here my Greek was miles better than French.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,580 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    Originally posted by luckat
    Spanish if you want to work in South America. [/url]
    American Spanish and European Spaniish are aparently quite, but not totally, different.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,201 ✭✭✭netman


    I speak fluent English and Croatian, and speak French, Dutch and German (as in I've studied those languages). :)

    Overall I found the languages quite easy. I mean most european languages share the same roots, and you find a lot of similarities between them which makes it quite easy to get started. I suppose if you wanted to know a language as well as a native it would be quite challenging, but if you're looking just to get by it doesn't require much effort.

    And if you don't use a language, you'll find that you're forgetting all that you've learnt years before. I've studied French for 5 years, and have barely used it since. I was trying to get back into it, and as you're going through the books you find that things are familiar, but there's not much difference between starting from scratch and picking up from where you were 15 years ago.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 990 ✭✭✭lili


    hem hem...
    i can speak only my own language fluently.
    but i can get english, german, spanish and portugues.
    also italian is easy enough to read.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,264 ✭✭✭✭Hobbes


    Learning Korean at the moment. Know some, can read it better then I can speak it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 509 ✭✭✭Pinkchick03


    I'd love to learn japanese! How'd you do it?
    Fluent French, some German, a little Italian, a tiny bit of Japanese.

    OH my god! I was in greece last summer 2002 and oh my god what a hard language
    learned French for 7 years in school and couldn't string a sentence together, came to Greece and after a year of living here my Greek was miles better than French.

    Fair play! Does YAMOS mean Cheers?

    I know a bit of french that would keep me going! I'd love to learn Japanese!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,604 ✭✭✭blondie83


    I can speak French quite fluently, and I have basic Spanish, German and Japenese. Have to agree with Simu here, Japenese is a really interesting language to learn. It's very different, what witj the 3 alphabets, and little picture thngs, but thats what makes it fun!:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,604 ✭✭✭blondie83


    I'd love to learn japanese! How'd you do it?

    I'm doing it in college(UCD). We're offered the chance to do a language for the year, but it has nothing to do with our course, so we don't fail the year if we fail it. It's just two hours a week, but it's really enjoyable, because it's a bit of a contrast to the stuff we do on our course (all kinda technical!). The teachers put in a lot of effort too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 509 ✭✭✭Pinkchick03


    3 Alphabets no way
    It's very different, what witj the 3 alphabets, and little picture thngs, but thats what makes it fun!

    ahh!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,730 ✭✭✭✭simu


    Originally posted by blondie83
    I'm doing it in college(UCD). We're offered the chance to do a language for the year, but it has nothing to do with our course, so we don't fail the year if we fail it. It's just two hours a week, but it's really enjoyable, because it's a bit of a contrast to the stuff we do on our course (all kinda technical!). The teachers put in a lot of effort too.

    I did the same for a year when i did an Erasmus year in France.
    unfortunately, it's hard to find classes outside Dublin here. I use books now - the books I have are in French but, in my experience of learning other languages, the Assimil books are quite good (used them for German and Italian).

    I didn't bother getting tapes for the Japanese books (I was broke at the time!) but they'd probably help you learn faster. That said, Japanses pronunciation isn't very hard at all.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 101 ✭✭SuperStudent


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    Ik denk niet iedereen hier de intelligentie heeft om een andere taal te leren


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 101 ✭✭SuperStudent


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 101 ✭✭SuperStudent


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 163 ✭✭DUX


    English, Italian and Spanish (fluent)

    German (basic)

    Russian (starting a course next week)...gotta be ready for May, when the doors to Ireland will be opened to all those lovely eastern european ladies :-)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,882 ✭✭✭fozzle


    I can get by in French and I used to know a smattering of Russian, although I think I'd probably have to start from scratch again with that.

    I'm hoping to learn Spanish over the next few years, and anything else I come across, as my job will hopefully take me all over the world.


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