Help me I think Im going Crazy

Metallicababe

I dont know what has come over me lately but I am constantly moaning about the cost of living in Ireland....... I am so depressed about the future

Its gettin on my nerves when I read a newspaper,listen to the radio or have conversations with people about the criminal rip off of Ireland.Depression is setting in and negativaty is rife in my thoughts. People of the generation of the eighties will proclaim how hard it was for them...I find it frustrating to hear about the unemployment and low economy we once had. Seeminly a couple decades back people were skint in ireland they had nothing............

In the 80s myparents are in their late 40's....... during the bad eighties they own their own house, car, holidays and had a couple of kids on ONE wage.
I will Never have my own HOME if i decide to have kids it would cost me €1700 for a creche for two kids.....The pay in Ireland AINT that great that I could afford that and thats even todays prices...........

Whats the point gettin up in the morning going to college For What?????
Im leaving Ireland Soon b4 I top myself with depression

joePC

I feel the very same way & not only is it a rip off the weather is **** too.

Anyway stay alive long enough to finish college then get the hell out of here "Thats exactly what im doing".

BoB_BoT

sounds like you have got depression, though I'm no expert. Life does suck but stick with it trust me it may not turn out perfect but if you try to think positve better things might come out of it. take a look at some of the stickies (posts that are at the top of the forum) for some links about depression and go see your doctor! This country is a rip off, but think about it this way, people are still living, working, having kids here and they're surviving, so I think you can too. When you're finished college try and do a bit of traveling you might find a country you like or decided that Ireland really isn't that bad.

g/l
Rob

oh btw, if ya want get the husband to be a stay home father lol

smiaras

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BoB_BoT

Depression Websites & The Like Link it's a little bit down the page

smiaras has a very good point about the media, if you've ever seen the film "Bowling for Columbine" they make a very good point about American media and Canadian media, the Canadian media has "good and happy" news! lol while the American news is focused on death and money which isn't very happy , now which country would you like to live in?

magick

I know its not directly related to cost of living (house prices/rent) which have to be paid.People tend to complain about the crazy prices here but what gets me is that a lot of people tend to moan/complain and still pay for DVDs/CDs etc. Is it just us or a lack of competition?
sorry to go slightly off topic

tinkerbell

Or move to the Caribbean where you can get a tax-free salary! That's my plan anyway! lol

magick

good plan!

Paddy20

Hey,

When I was young. I used to say to my Doc; " I think I am going crazy ", He used to reply: " If you think you are going crazy, then you are not " apparently thinking you are going crazy proves only one thing, and that is that you are a thinker.

So, off I went around the world. I had a good if not always a great time. However, in the end - home is home - and no matter where I was I never felt at home and therefore never felt really content.

After very many years of exile. I returned home in 1987 and have never been happier. Believe me the quality of life in Ireland, whether you be rich or poor, is still precious, and not easily found elsewhere. A pity I did not know that when I was young.

I am not sure why I am posting this, but thats life and I wish you luck.

P.:ninja:

Sleepy

Typical Catch 22...

seamus

Originally posted by Paddy20
Hey,

When I was young. I used to say to my Doc; " I think I am going crazy ", He used to reply: " If you think you are going crazy, then you are not " apparently thinking you are going crazy proves only one thing, and that is that you are a thinker.

Paddy, I think you should have gotten a second opinion

(only joking m8 )

sceptre

Originally posted by Paddy20
When I was young. I used to say to my Doc; " I think I am going crazy ", He used to reply: " If you think you are going crazy, then you are not "

Hah, I've said that to quite a few people in the past.

SirLemonhead

To quote Megadeth...'If I know i'm going crazy, I must not be insane'

xern

Yeah i agree with you Metallicababe, this country is a rip off, I really need to get out of Ireland for a year or 2 myself. I was lucky enough to get a job in IT when i left college 2 years ago, but i'm still doing the very same job with no increace in pay, no chance in promotion and the dept. i'm in is being moved to slovacia in 6 to 8 months so i'm out of a job.

i just have to save enough to go traveling, i will have to sell my car and probably live on tuna and pasta and not go out or buy anything for myself for the next 8 to 10 months, but it will be worth it in the end hopefully. well thats what i keep telling myself !!!!!!!
The only thing i would miss about ireland is family and good guinness!!!
I know some people say 'There is no place like home' but i want to find that out for myself, if its true.

Mighty_Mouse

"know some people say 'There is no place like home' but i want to find that out for myself, if its true."

Good shout. Ya I think Ireland is the best place in the world to live but travel helps people realise that.

Agree about the rip off culture. I have been the meanist bastard since starting my first job from college and still am only surviveing. just about with no possible way of starting to repay some college debt.

BUT "In the 80s myparents are in their late 40's....... during the bad eighties they own their own house, car, holidays and had a couple of kids on ONE wage."

Some wage or else ansbacher was you daddys friend. The eighties were bad dont fool yourself. At least the 00's offer the potential to make some money

Also would you rather be in America where people wiht money work 12 hour days/two jobs just to survive and pay medical insurane for their kids..At least in this country you will never starve to death. We are a social welfare state

Metallicababe

Also would you rather be in America where people wiht money work 12 hour days/two jobs just to survive and pay medical insurane for their kids..At least in this country you will never starve to death. We are a social welfare state


well MightyMouse I dont have medical insurance if i did id neeed to work 12 hrs a day to pay for it!!!!!!!As for starving im living on koko noodles!!!!!!

hedgetrimmer

Go to college, get a degree, learn one or two languages and come work in the EU - offices all over teh world and Brussels is a very under-rated city - it really rocks!!

OR join the Department of Foreign Affairs and see the world (seriously).

PM me for any info

Mighty_Mouse

I completely agree that Ireland is a rip off. The last five years have been cat!

I have absolutely no money. First job from collge: can afford car, christmas pressies, clothes or anything. I drank way more in college than I can afford to now. Im in debt to every bank you can think of and a couple of personal loans also.

My point. I can understand why you would consider fecking off somewhere but LONG-TERM Ireland is the only place I could ever live. At the end of the day, our taxes are low and its got an OK mix between socialist and capitalist ideals.

Whats the worst that can happen here? Dole? Council House? Child Allowance? etc .....In that respect its not a bad little place (If we could only roof it!).

If your going to college the opportunity is there to make money with some hard work and a little luck.

Also bear in mind: those americans with big white teeth tell you to stay positive bla bla bla...............there right. Negative attitude to success and you fecked from the off.

You can live a very comfortable life in Ireland long-term if your focused.

PS.
the above applys to anywhere except Dublin which is a supreme ****hole in terms of quality of life, traffic, employment, cost of living, people!

Mighty_Mouse

I completely agree that Ireland is a rip off. The last five years have been cat!

I have absolutely no money. First job from collge: can afford car, christmas pressies, clothes or anything. I drank way more in college than I can afford to now. Im in debt to every bank you can think of and a couple of personal loans also.

My point. I can understand why you would consider fecking off somewhere but LONG-TERM Ireland is the only place I could ever live. At the end of the day, our taxes are low and its got an OK mix between socialist and capitalist ideals.

Whats the worst that can happen here? Dole? Council House? Child Allowance? etc .....In that respect its not a bad little place (If we could only roof it!).

If your going to college the opportunity is there to make money with some hard work and a little luck.

Also bear in mind: those americans with big white teeth tell you to stay positive bla bla bla...............there right. Negative attitude to success and you fecked from the off.

You can live a very comfortable life in Ireland long-term if your focused.

PS.
the above applys to anywhere except Dublin which is a supreme ****hole in terms of quality of life, traffic, employment, cost of living, people!

PPS
Health insurance isnt that expensive here. And you wont have to work 12 hrs a day to pay for it.

You cant argue that your better off in america

Metallicababe

Health insurance is expensive most jobs in Ireland only give 10% off ur vhi or bupa

(credit unions give the same 10% for only openning an account)
its a disgrace employers in Ireland generally do not contribuate much to their employees health care!!!!

seamus

Originally posted by Metallicababe
Health insurance is expensive most jobs in Ireland only give 10% off ur vhi or bupa

(credit unions give the same 10% for only openning an account)
its a disgrace employers in Ireland generally do not contribuate much to their employees health care!!!!

Well, it's a little different here in that health care is free. Insurance mainly just guarantees you a shorter wait and better facilities when you're recovering. If you're not mission critical to a company, it's probably not seen as worth their while to ensure you make a speedy recovery.

In America, there is no free health care, so health insurance is seen as a very important part of any employment contract, whereas it isn't here.

qwertyphobia

The unemployment figures that where release recently had Irish unemployment at around 4% thats haft of EU unemployment average which is around 8%. In some of the worst times in the 80% it was up around 15% in ireland.

A huge porportation of the people I went to school with left Ireland not to see the world but because they had no choice.

Life is better now. By any measure you want to use.

So why do people feel like things have got worst?

Because they desire and want more, If you sit at home dreaming of winning the lotto or owning a perfect house or leading this fab life then you are going to be unhappy with the modest life you have.

In the past the people who stayed in Ireland didn't have very high expectations (most of my friends with degrees where working in pubs or waiting in cafes). One difference I noticed between me and my younger brother now growing up is the whole range of possibilities he sees in front of him (even if there are dissappearing now quicker then he realises). That is a positive thing but with it comes a negitive side which is we are a much more consumerist society then ever before. He simply want more and more bigger and brighter things and when we can't have them we **** about ourselves about not having them.

If you want to see the world go ahead, but go for the right reasons not just to run away from here.

If you want the whole package of great job, two kids in the creche, lovely own house to wrap yourself up with. Then go for that.

But they wont nessecerily leed to you being happy.

Start looking and valueing what you have in your life now . instead of "what if's" if you manage that you will be happyer and you may even find you are more sucessfull

Metallicababe

From some of the replys I am getting some of yee guys think Im cribbin I aint got the middle style lifestyle I believe I deserve cos I went to college...............


Thats not my point Im talkin about basic standard of living which I cant afford like housing, health services etc.
To pay my housing needs in Dublin i forgo drinkin socialising etc............To pay my utilites I forgo visiting my G.P and Dentists visits...........To pay my internet costs I forgo having a euro left in my bank account........... I work full time and I go to college fulltime. This country is letting younger people down Big Time Im emigrating to U.K (there at least i dont need to forgo a visit to a G.P)

This country is great if ur between 35 and 60 and own ur own house. But alas for the rest of us struggling its sheer HELL......................

magnia

maybe you should have went to a better college where there is a doctor on campus that is free to students most colleges in the country have this and goin to college doesnt guarantee you a nice life so get a better job that has a free staff night out for the staff on a friday so you can have a beers

magnia

and what are you talkin bout moving to england for they have college fees over there so if you are having difficulty surviving on your mcdonalds wages you havent a hope of paying college fees as wel...... maybe if you write to the archbishop and tell him you used to be an altar girl or something hel send you a few yoyos

luckat

How ironic that we value our lives according to the price of consumables.

I never believed I'd own a house - and it was a struggle buying the first hovel. But I did it, and now own a bigger, better hovel.

Metallicababe

Moving to the UK to better my career not go to college.

Mighty_Mouse

"Thats not my point Im talkin about basic standard of living which I cant afford like housing, health services etc."

What age are you. Usually students parents pay their rent. If yours couldnt afford to pay rent then you get the the grant.

If you work 16 hrs week - (Sat, Sun)
X €8 pr hr = €128 (no tax in college)
+ €47 (grant)

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€175 per week
- €80 rent

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€95 (living money)

Thats sounds about right to me to live on for a week

Expense such as heat, oil, electricity, books are extras. Which is why many people get student loans. I personallly have about €13,000 to pay back at the mo.

Theres nothing worse to me than students who cry poverty and dont have any loans. Your getting an education which should result in a long-term higher wage. Why not borrow from the future for the present.

plus - lot of students live without tv, heat and oil cos they drank it 4 yrs running!!!!!!!!(it was a cold 4 yrs let me tell ye)

"To pay my housing needs in Dublin i forgo drinkin socialising etc............"

Get used to Dutch Gold, bukkie or other such alcoholic delights! Drink in house before going out. Cost = €30 night out


"To pay my internet costs I forgo having a euro left in my bank account"

Two points - 1. you have a phone connection 2 you pay internet bills!!! (does campus not have internet)

"I work full time and I go to college fulltime."

What the f u doing with the money?

"This country is letting younger people down Big Time Im emigrating to U.K (there at least i dont need to forgo a visit to a G.P)"

Id usually agree with you about letting young people down etc..............but ffs your in college.= No money, beer and a little education

UK = fees . doc vs fees = personally id make sure the jonny doesnt split!

"This country is great if ur between 35 and 60 and own ur own house. But alas for the rest of us struggling its sheer HELL......................"

Are you ment to be loaded at 19-25? Show me a country where young people enjoy the luxurys of money?

Metallicababe

Not all students are lucky enough to have a relationship with their parents that they get rent from them while going to college..............

Paddy20

Metallicababe,

You have been receiving a lot of advice from posters genuinely trying to be of assistance to you.

However, because you appear to be reluctant to reveal your exact circumstances re; income, living costs etc. Your posts are coming over to me as arrogant and un-appreciative of peoples efforts, and therefore it is clearly making it difficult for people to post the type of information you may really need!.

May I suggest that perhaps you might be well advised to seek some free advice from one of the following services in relation to your current worries and your future plans:- Just click on any of the links below;

1; www.citizensinfo.ie/

2; www.oasis.gov.ie/

You could sit down - face to face - with an advisor from The Citizens Information Centre and check if you are receiving all the grant aid or social welfare type benefits to which you may well be entitled ?..

Good luck.

P.:ninja:

qwertyphobia

there is also the MABS organisation stands for money advice bureo that can give advice and support with managing debts

They have offices all over the country

Paddy20

quertyphobia,

Yes you are right. Mettallicababe, Just click on this link; www.mabs.ie/
The 'Free' Money Advice & Budgetting Service is excellent and highly respected, and very pro-active at making sure no one starves.

P.:ninja:

MartMax

Tough and boring - plan as much as you can.... Not everything is possible, but the impossible things as we would see might change... Don't be too hard too yourself... there must be ways to solve every single problem... That's life!