Best Trilogy Status

slave1

Well, I've been a die hard SW fan, both film and EU for quite some time now.

It was always clear to me that the greatest series of films ever made was the SW trilogy.

Now having seen the final installment of PJ's LOTR in the form of ROTK I have to put it out there to fellow force fans.

IMO The Lord of The Rings Trilogy is better than the Original SW Trilogy.
ROTK just blew me away, not a ewok in sight!!

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Personally the Ewoks made the final film for me. That and their subsequent cartoon series. When I was a kid this was great.

LOTR is what Star Wars was based on if I remember correctly, so I think it's safe to say that the original will always be the best. Considering Peter Jackson's view of the shire and middle earth and all those who dwell within it, he has created a masterpiece which greatly overshadows the original Star Wars Trilogy, though in it's own right it remains a classic.

sweep_101

Yes I agree LOTR is by far the better but Star Wars is still a masterpiece of filming innovation. If it wasn't for Star Wars alot of cinematic innovation which helped make LOTR possible may not have been concieved

Praetorian

First off, I never read the books okay? DO NOT read below if you have not seen the Lord of the Rings Movies!

Return of the king was a big disappointment for me. I could have fallen asleep for the first two hours, but luckily Smeagol (Gollum) kept me amused. I expected the returning king to actually have a fight with someone of substance. Instead he convinced some really dodgy looking ghosts to fight for him, and he beats up a couple of orcs, wow wee. There should have been a battle between Sauron in human form and Aragorn. Also where the f**k did Saruman go to? Locked up in his tower, hahah. It was very disappointing that there was no battle between Saruman (The white?) and Gandalf the white. Legolas ‘flying’ up onto those big elephants just looked so silly; what were they thinking? The special effects towards the end of ROTK were noticeably poor. Obviously the guys doing the effects were getting tired, and just wanted to be done with the project. I noticed the same with the actors, during several scenes.

LOTR: Fellowship of the Ring. Brilliant film.
LOTR: The two towers. Great action, pretty good film.
LOTR: Return of the King. Very disappointing for me. Don’t get me wrong, it’s still a very good film!

Star wars (4&5&6) were superior.

Princess Leia > Arwen
Storm troopers > Orcs
Han Solo > Legolas
Chewbacca > Gimli
Yoda > Gollum
Vader > Saruman
The Emperor > Sauron
Obi Wan > Gandalf
Luke Skywalker > Aragorn
Ewoks ~ = Stupid little hobbits

I could go on and on , but I’m too lazy to rant anymore

Bacchus

First Off, LOTR kicks the original SW trilogies ass (not that SW isn't fantastic, but Jedi sucks).
Also, for Fellowship and Two Towers I noticed most people thought they were excellent whether they read the book or not. This is not so for Return Of The King.
Those who read it general think it was excellent, but with a few area's left out that they would have liked to have seen - Saruman, scouring of shire, Denethor's palantir(sp?) for example.
Those who did not read the book, don't seem to fully understand why things happen the way they do in the movie particularlly why Denethor is so mad. They wanted ,as Praetorian said, a fight between Aragorn and Sauron but that was never going to happen because it never happened in the book at that is why those who have read the book accept it.
As for your statement about Legolas 'flying' up the elephant, I found that scene pretty breaktaking and entirely possible - he's an elf.

Vader

if you look over at lotr you'll see that ROTK was a big disappointment for me so im going to stick with sw. but if I had to pick my best 3 sw flics it would be ep 2,5,6

Mick L

A while ago I thought that there would be three trilogies so rank at the top of my list but the Matrix faltered after the first one so that left SW and LOTR. There are many reasons to like both. SW was out when I was a kid so I grew up with it and loved it. LOTR had to follow on from the books and so had every chance to be an utter disappointment but no, it did justice to the books, how many films can you say that about???

SW was revolutionary for its time, LOTR is an epic on a huge scale. What would happen if SW was made now with todays special effects and budgets (unfortunately we know, you get Jar Jar).

The point that swings it for me is the expanded universe. Watching the films after reading a book or playing one of the games just adds to the experience, you notice more of the details, things you wouldn't normally pay attention to. I'm still living in hope that Episode 3 somehow manages to caprture the same magic we had in the original trilogy.

krattapopov

Star Wars (4,5,6) is a good trilogy
LOTR is a better trilogy

It remains to be seen when 3 is completed how it stands out for me... and if they are going to make 7,8,9.... therefore changing Star Wars as a story completely... for me anyway

Wheeler

orinally posted by krattapopov It remains to be seen when 3 is completed how it stands out for me... and if they are going to make 7,8,9.... therefore changing Star Wars as a story completely... for me anyway

correct me if im wrong but im almost certain star wars episode 7 and following episodes were written over 20 years ago.... episode 7 is set 40 or 60 yrs after the event of return of the jedi. luke and leia are old and have grandchildren or something like that..then the dark force rises again and with thousands of supporters of the dark side attacking the sky city wearing jet packs and darth vadar masks imitating their martyr.

Vader

Originally posted by Wheeler
orinally posted by krattapopov It remains to be seen when 3 is completed how it stands out for me... and if they are going to make 7,8,9.... therefore changing Star Wars as a story completely... for me anyway

correct me if im wrong but im almost certain star wars episode 7 and following episodes were written over 20 years ago.... episode 7 is set 40 or 60 yrs after the event of return of the jedi. luke and leia are old and have grandchildren or something like that..then the dark force rises again and with thousands of supporters of the dark side attacking the sky city wearing jet packs and darth vadar masks imitating their martyr.

or was it all just a drug induced dream? We'll never know:o

Wheeler

Star Wars Episode 7
Plot Summary Script Synopsis Story
The Fallen Hero
by
George Lucas

Twenty years have passed since the Battle of Endor (Return of the Jedi), where both the Emperor and Vader met their doom. During the decades since Endor, the remnants of the Empire have been defeated and the New Republic formed out of the ashes of the Empire. However, enemies against the New Republic still exist. A rogue group of Dark Jedi have emerged that threaten the fragile stability that the New Republic enjoys.

The Cloud City of Bespin has been converted into one of the many Jedi training facilities located all throughout the galaxy. The Jedi's numbers are beginning to grow to Old Republic heights. The New Jedi Order consists of about 7,000 Jedi Knights. Bespin is now the home to both Jedi Masters, Knights and Apprentices.

During routine Jedi training on Bespin, the Dark Jedi invade wearing jet packs, which send them like a swarm dropping into the upper reaches of the cloud city. These Dark Jedi are seeking to re-establish the legacy of Darth Vader and, hence, they wear a more-advanced-looking version of Darth Vader's mask, helmet and body armor in honor of their fallen hero

it continues

http://www.supershadow.com/starwars/episode7/plot.html

mcgarnicle

Im pretty sure that Lucas doesn't write the stories until he goes to make the film, and if he did I'm sure he wouldn't show it to anyone. So i wouldn't believe that summary.

LOTR is what Star Wars was based on

That's why the original trilogy is good and the prequals stink, Lucas took the story for the original trilogy from Tolkien and added spaceships. For the prequals he had to make them up on his own and that's why they suck.

User45701

Does a triligy have to be 3 films?

It DEFINATLEY wouldent be lord of the rings

I loved kill bill , too bad ther only making one more

TheSonOfBattles

Lucas has stated several times his writing strategy for the films. When he originally wrote the basic script for Star Wars, it was a story about Redemption i.e. Anakin is the Main character, and the whole thing revolved around him. When he'd finished writing it, it was way to big, so he broke it into a trilogy. When he had the basics of the 3 written, he realized that it was still to big, so he broke it up again into 3 trilogies. He'd make teh middle one, because it was the most feasible, and would come back to the whole thing later. He's since decided that hes not gonna make episode 7, 8 or 9. Most likely reason is the EU has already covered most of what he wanted, or he'd have to destroy it (further?) to make the movies work.

Venom

Originally posted by TheSonOfBattles
Lucas has stated several times his writing strategy for the films. When he originally wrote the basic script for Star Wars, it was a story about Redemption i.e. Anakin is the Main character, and the whole thing revolved around him. When he'd finished writing it, it was way to big, so he broke it into a trilogy. When he had the basics of the 3 written, he realized that it was still to big, so he broke it up again into 3 trilogies. He'd make teh middle one, because it was the most feasible, and would come back to the whole thing later. He's since decided that hes not gonna make episode 7, 8 or 9. Most likely reason is the EU has already covered most of what he wanted, or he'd have to destroy it (further?) to make the movies work.

Lucas is full of ****e! He has changed the whole "Star Wars is about" line so many times at this stage its gotten beyond a joke. First it was all about the rise of the Jedi aka Luke and the defeat of the evil Empire. Next it was all about the two droids and later its about the rise and fall of Darth Vader.

Vader

SW is based on LOTR? Sorry but I'll need that one explained to me.

sceptre

Originally posted by User45701
Does a triligy have to be 3 films?

Yes.

That's what the "tri-" part of the word refers to.