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Wiine 20031212 and NTFS ?

  • 21-12-2003 10:16pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,766 ✭✭✭


    I have Windows XP (Home) and Redhat 9 (kernel 2.4.18-14). I got Wine a few days ago as a .rpm (non commercial version). It installed fine and tested the sample notepad on the linux side. But I haven't any luck it linking in with the windows side. The windows partition is NTFS (not FAT). My question is: Does Wine support NTFS?

    It seems that you are better off with win98 and FAT32 (or even FAT16) for best compatibility. Just curious have many people tried it yet? www.winehq.com. It looks like a fanastic idea.


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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 93,596 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    AFAIK - most versions of Linux can happily read NTFS (so can DOS and Win95 using NTFSDOS on sysinternals website) but writing to it is a different story since M$ have kept it as closed source as they can.

    FAT 16 - 2047MB for best compatability - NT and DOS 5 can read it too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 188 ✭✭slartibardfast


    hi,
    it is not up to wine to support NTFS, as wine is a userspace program, it is up to your kernel. Unfortuantly because of supposed patent issues RedHat do not compile the linux ntfs driver (which is read only any way). What I recommend is to check out captive-ntfs

    http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/

    it is available as an rpm and gives full read/write support by using window xp's ntfs.sys! Intrestingly it is uses componants of wine and annother projects work ReactOS, which is an attept to rempliment windows nt or something

    P.S. Captive-ntfs is slow, you might want to get the kernel sources or an ntfs module rpm for your redhat for read-only stuff (say mp3's) and only use captive-ntfs as required,

    anyway good luck!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,766 ✭✭✭hamster


    Thanks Guys for your input.

    slartibardfast,

    With RH9, I downloaded kernel-ntfs-2.4.20-8.i686.rpm for Redhat 9\i686\2.4.20-8\ back in 04/06/03. Yep, as you say read-only. I must look into captive-ntfs. Thanks for the link. Good to hear about NTFS support too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 188 ✭✭slartibardfast


    no problem, it really is great to have ntfs write support. when winex(www.transgaming.com) supports civ3 perfectly their really won't be much call to reboot at all.

    one more link for using wine better is www.frankscorner.org, it has a fantastic array of how to guides for everything from IE6 to Dreamweaver to Jedi Knight 2.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭phaxx


    NTFS write seems like a very dangerous thing to me, I'm happy enough with read only for the moment!

    Just as a side note about shared partitions, I'm using fat32 at the moment and not very happy with it. I've lost some files already, it's just too unreliable.

    I did some looking around, and found Mount-Everything - an ext2/3 driver (among other things) for Windows.

    I haven't actually used it, so I can't recommend it or anything, but it looks like a nice alternative for a shared partition.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,077 ✭✭✭parasite


    explore2fs is free


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 93,596 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/explore2fs.htm

    must have a look see - you can turn on Write support ! (at your own risk)
    Writing to EXT3 is not supported.

    These are simple steps to creating a file which contains an ex2fs filesystem
    http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/ex2fsfile.htm
    Ok stick this file in an iso on a Fat 32 to confuse everyone :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭phaxx


    explore2fs may be free, but it doesn't allow mounting of ext3. Without it, it's pretty useless as a shared area.

    I'm resizing the partitions at the moment and shuffling stuff around, so I'll try mount everything and let you know how it is.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 93,596 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    How about a linux based storage area network box - low spec box with two mirrored IDE drives and a gigabit card ?
    So are using a network drive not a local file system


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